PC patch changes.

**Brainhurts** · 03-29-2012, 08:46 AM

Ok more info now, this time for the PC.

Can make more than 8 squads.
Colorblindness mode extends to the minimap.
Minimap settings are saved between deaths.
TV missile seems to kill tanks in one shot "Game changer, Even I can hit a tank with a tv missle, Tanks will be useless now"
All smoke trails seems to be different.
Loadouts reset for everything on all classes.
You can now see your own ping (http://i.imgur.com/GJ6Pf.jpg)
new more crisp sound for M98B sniper riffle.
Minimap opacity is now exposed.
New effects for rockets and missiles from heli.
Gunner on the LAV/Tank has a heavier sound.
TV Missile is easier to see when coming towards a heli
Helicopters are hard to keep in the air for any amount of time (though this could be from people using stingers and IGLAs to test them out).
.44 magnum has a different sound.
Flashlight is brighter than it was when original was released.
Both stationary and mobile AA have much more visible tracers.
Helicopter Air to Air missles appear to have no effect on jets, exploding before impact every single time.
Base anti air now has Air radar.
Minimap seems to be slightly bigger.
US medic now has black arms.
Color blind mode outlines icons on the minimap.
Friendly laser no longer blinds you (same for flashlight?).
Blue tint toned down by quite and bit and contrast increased.
Chopper Miniguns now drop bullet casing (like alpha/beta?). (Very cool.)
Chopper Miniguns now toggle zoom if you have ADS set to toggle.
Laser designation on all vehicles shows up now.
Can't spawn on flags that are being taken.
Changed bipod view when not aiming down the sights.

The armor changes might ruin the game for me, I will have to see on a more full server later today, the TV missle is going to be a big issue.

I have a bad feeling this patch may have broken the game for armor/helis, It was pretty OP sometimes, but now its extremely underpowered.

**Talos** · 03-29-2012, 08:56 AM

Wait... so if a flag is blinking (not yet neutral), you can't spawn on it to save it?!?

**Brainhurts** · 03-29-2012, 09:00 AM

Sounds like such.

It enforce teamwork and squad placement, which isnt a bad thing.

But many times my squads taking a flag, snuck up on it fought hard to get there, only to have the enemy team spawn on, behind and infront of us.

Some flags are impossible to take without spawn camping the defending team, which sucks for the defenders but must be done.

**tHa_KhAn** · 03-29-2012, 09:01 AM

Thanks for the update. It's nice they seemed to do some changes just to spice up the experience as well.

The one shot kill of a TV missile on armor, would be the equivalent of a one shot kill from a sniper head shot to infantry. Both require unlocks and some skill. Add in the better AA versus helos and it sounds as if the game is more balanced. Armor is forced to work with AA or infantry with AA it sounds like.

**Brainhurts** · 03-29-2012, 09:13 AM

Most TV missle users hover in place, over spawn very far out of any AA reach.

Stingers have a reduced range, few maps have a AA vehicle and rarely is there a good pilot on either team, and when that happens one takes the other out pretty quick so theres nothing to worry about.

But yeah Im not sure how this will play out on the TG servers, It might not be that bad.

**Ven** · 03-29-2012, 09:48 AM

so TV bomb is like BF2 now.....as it should be. I for one am glad that the armor is now in check a bit.
So on top of these changes we also have all the gun tweaks correct?

**Ven** · 03-29-2012, 09:53 AM

you always could spawn on a blinking flag......

*edit* I just re read the question. seems now you cant spawn on a blinking flag?.....hmm that will be a game changer. More focus needs to be put on defense now it sounds like.....I like that

**ProjectNA** · 03-29-2012, 09:57 AM

Originally Posted by Brainhurts

I have a bad feeling this patch may have broken the game for armor/helis, It was pretty OP sometimes, but now its extremely underpowered.

I guess broken is in they eye of the 40-1 MBT KDR beholder ; )

If they do fix the OP assets, I'll play more on the TG servers. I am here for a BF3 experience, I don't want to play a COD-style game (just an analogy, not a slight), but with the assets the way they were I ended up picking that over the post-patch BF3.

**Brainhurts** · 03-29-2012, 10:06 AM

Originally Posted by ProjectNA

I guess broken is in they eye of the 40-1 MBT KDR beholder ; )

Oh very much the truth here.

Vehicles are the only reason I have a decent score, Im worried about the one thing I found to be really fun getting nerfed badly.

http://i.imgur.com/uB9nP.jpg

**Ven** · 03-29-2012, 11:06 AM

Originally Posted by Brainhurts

Oh very much the truth here.

Vehicles are the only reason I have a decent score, Im worried about the one thing I found to be really fun getting nerfed badly.

http://i.imgur.com/uB9nP.jpg

Just think of how much better you will improve at infantry....

As far as the thing you love getting nerfed, now you know how all us G3 users feel

**OldGunney** · 03-29-2012, 11:32 AM

Noticed something about the Claymores. I can always set the first one down, but the second one takes a lot longer to get out of the ammo bag. No more throwing a ammo bag down and setting out the second claymore right away.

Also, after I've been shot and revived the claymore I had put down are gone! That aint right!

**OldGunney** · 03-29-2012, 11:34 AM

I was on a russian server after loading the patch and found myself the squad leader after one player left. But I could not issue any flag attack commands! Anyone else see a problem like that?

Also noticed your ping shows up on the scoreboard now. No more asking "What's my Ping?".

**TheLancerMancer** · 03-29-2012, 11:54 AM

Here's a thread from the BF3 Reddit. The OP is doing a pretty good job of updating the list as new changes (listed and unlisted) are discovered, as well as providing screenshots and videos of some changes.

**HardWind** · 03-29-2012, 12:04 PM

Vehicles needed to be nerfed : http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3...4/1/174071509/ Thanks CappuccinoBob for the repairs

Originally Posted by OldGunney

Noticed something about the Claymores. I can always set the first one down, but the second one takes a lot longer to get out of the ammo bag. No more throwing a ammo bag down and setting out the second claymore right away.

Also, after I've been shot and revived the claymore I had put down are gone! That aint right!

(I will still hit every claymore you lay down)

Originally Posted by OldGunney

I was on a russian server after loading the patch and found myself the squad leader after one player left. But I could not issue any flag attack commands! Anyone else see a problem like that?

Also noticed your ping shows up on the scoreboard now. No more asking "What's my Ping?".

SL orders are now issued by the comma rose.

http://blogs.battlefield.com/2012/03...ut-items-live/

**Pvt Brokeback** · 03-29-2012, 12:45 PM

Originally Posted by Brainhurts

Vehicles are the only reason I have a decent score, Im worried about the one thing I found to be really fun getting nerfed badly.

Brain (I'm just going to call you 'Brain', I hope you like it), I don't blame you for your concern. Consider the flipside, however. Many people I know didn't enjoy BF3 and stopped playing because of how much the game revolved around vehicles.