You know... the thing that makes hand helds powerful is the fact that below radar doesn't work on them. I can dodge a jav thats been locked on me, I can dodge AA missiles at low altitude if need be, but the stinger/igla will hit w/o flares or ecm. 1 player with a stinger can deny an airspace of a chopper... Only a dumb pilot would fly around with a solid lock all the time. The point isn't to kill, its airspace denial. And if you are chaning your kit just as the chopper is attacking... Its way way too late. And as for jets, no you can lock them and hit them just as they come in. It happened to me several times playing today. But either way, I do agree that the limited range is horrid. There are a few ways for a chopper pilot to find the player with the stinger/igla if you are willing to throw the aircraft out there a little. And yes unfortunatly its only 1 person thats always in the same places, but thats not the choppers problem. Its when you get 2 or 3 people that things for a heli get really ugly. Sharqui is a really good example, if you dont have a squad focused on downing the havoc you may aswell be asking for a raping. It was just the same in BF2, annoying as it is thats the way it is. And as its been said, you dont have to worry about any of us in f15's anymore. And the choppers suck compared to BF2, so much less controll.