WTS WOW (2 copies) and 60 priest/warrior

cptCuervo · 02-13-2007, 07:56 PM

I have ceased my WOW days and am ready to part with my game.

I have 2 copies of WOW in excellent condition.

I'm not sure how to do this, but I could also sell my accounts:

60 Human, Male Priest (tier 1 & ZG gear, benediction, tier 2 helm)

60 Human Female Warrior (mostly 5 man, pre-tier gear)

I will entertain reasonable offers... PM to discuss.

Thanks

**CingularDuality** · 02-13-2007, 10:07 PM

I don't think that it's legal to sell accounts, but you're free to sell your copies of the game here!

42nAi · 02-13-2007, 10:14 PM

yeah selling accounts is against the EULA, its ok to sell the copies unless you already use the cd keys inside it, then its pointless.

**Tonk** · 02-14-2007, 08:37 PM

selling the account is indeed illegal.. but there is a loophole in rewording things... instead of saying:

wts WOW account

say this: wts time/labor invested in said account * blizzard owns the account.. and u are only paying for my time invested.. blah blah blah

**CingularDuality** · 02-16-2007, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Tonk

selling the account is indeed illegal.. but there is a loophole in rewording things... instead of saying:

wts WOW account

say this: wts time/labor invested in said account * blizzard owns the account.. and u are only paying for my time invested.. blah blah blah

I believe that it's not legal to transfer the account to another person at all...

**Rincewind** · 02-16-2007, 11:26 PM

Interestingly enough, when I transfered a character to another server, it gave me the option to transfer that character to another WoW account.

Blizzard makes it easy to transfer characters without having to transfer the account.

**Apophis** · 02-17-2007, 08:36 AM

For clarity's sake.

It's against their TOS to SELL a character. It is not "illegal" to sell a character.

ShooDaddy · 02-17-2007, 12:47 PM

Things like this are complicated.

I don't see why we can't sell or trade any character to anygame

It still took time to make it, the person is gaining an advantage, and half the time they can't play a character well, so who cares.

Just doesn't make sence to me.

cptCuervo · 02-19-2007, 08:03 PM

Thanks for the clarification... I'm not going to "Sell" my accounts.. but I have some characters available for transfer

**CingularDuality** · 02-19-2007, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Apophis

For clarity's sake.

It's against their TOS to SELL a character. It is not "illegal" to sell a character.

Is the TOS not a contract? Breaking a contract is illegal. Not criminal, but civil. Blizzard is not going to come looking for you so that they can sue you for selling an account, but if TG makes this a place where people come to violate Blizzard's TOS, they might sue TG. They also probably aren't afraid to suspend/cancel accounts that have violated their TOS, either.

**Apophis** · 02-20-2007, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by CingularDuality

Is the TOS not a contract? Breaking a contract is illegal. Not criminal, but civil. Blizzard is not going to come looking for you so that they can sue you for selling an account, but if TG makes this a place where people come to violate Blizzard's TOS, they might sue TG. They also probably aren't afraid to suspend/cancel accounts that have violated their TOS, either.

Well, I'm not looking to piss Blizzard off and don't condone activity that gets the developers and publishers in a fuss, but that aside.

I'm not sure if the TOS is considered a contract or not and if so, how much protection is gained by Blizzard by having this in place. All that asize, here's an interesting nugget from WoW's Terms of Use document available from the loading screeen of the game.

Quote:

In the event that you breach this Agreement, you hereby agree that Blizzard would be irreparably damaged if this Agreement were not specifically enforced, and therefore you agree that Blizzard shall be entitled, without bond, other security, or proof of damages, to appropriate equitable remedies with respect to breaches of this Agreement, in addition to such other remedies as Blizzard may otherwise have available to it under applicable laws. In the event any litigation is brought by either part in connection with this Agreement, the prevailing party in such litigation shall be entitled to recover from the other party all costs, attorneys' feed and other expenses incurred by such prevailing party in the litigation.

Reading further there is quite a bit of interesting verbage in this here Terms of Use document.

**CingularDuality** · 02-20-2007, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Apophis

I'm not sure if the TOS is considered a contract or not and if so, how much protection is gained by Blizzard by having this in place. All that asize, here's an interesting nugget from WoW's Terms of Use document available from the loading screeen of the game.

Interesting. I wonder if anyone's actually been sued for damages over a TOS?

**Apophis** · 02-20-2007, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by CingularDuality

Interesting. I wonder if anyone's actually been sued for damages over a TOS?

I'm also wondering how Blizzard defines "irreparable damage" and how simply selling your WoW character to someone else damages the company beyond the point of repair.

**Tonk** · 02-21-2007, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Apophis

I'm also wondering how Blizzard defines "irreparable damage" and how simply selling your WoW character to someone else damages the company beyond the point of repair.

the section of the server that the data your account is on melts... it is irreparable.. and it causes the server to crash

Pancake King · 03-08-2007, 09:31 AM

Well, if you're saying you want to sell the time/effort you put into it, I hate to say it, but if it's legal, then you gotta pay tax....

02-13-2007, 07:56 PM	#1 (permalink)
cptCuervo Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Boulder, CO Posts: 321	WTS WOW (2 copies) and 60 priest/warrior I have ceased my WOW days and am ready to part with my game. I have 2 copies of WOW in excellent condition. I'm not sure how to do this, but I could also sell my accounts: 60 Human, Male Priest (tier 1 & ZG gear, benediction, tier 2 helm) 60 Human Female Warrior (mostly 5 man, pre-tier gear) I will entertain reasonable offers... PM to discuss. Thanks

02-13-2007, 10:07 PM	#2 (permalink)
CingularDuality Join Date: May 2003 Location: Dallas/Ft. Worth area of Texas, USA Age: 33 Posts: 16,599	Re: WTS WOW (2 copies) and 60 priest/warrior I don't think that it's legal to sell accounts, but you're free to sell your copies of the game here! __________________ Become a supporting member! -- Shop at the Tactical Market! Take the world's smallest political quiz! "I was touched by His Noodly Appendage." TacticalGamer TX LAN/BBQ Veteran:

02-13-2007, 10:14 PM	#3 (permalink)
42nAi Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Maryland Age: 18 Posts: 12	Re: WTS WOW (2 copies) and 60 priest/warrior yeah selling accounts is against the EULA, its ok to sell the copies unless you already use the cd keys inside it, then its pointless.

02-14-2007, 08:37 PM	#4 (permalink)
Tonk Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Luck, WI USA Age: 22 Posts: 2,802	Re: WTS WOW (2 copies) and 60 priest/warrior selling the account is indeed illegal.. but there is a loophole in rewording things... instead of saying: wts WOW account say this: wts time/labor invested in said account * blizzard owns the account.. and u are only paying for my time invested.. blah blah blah __________________ -Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely, in an attractive and well preserved body; but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, a beer in the other, body totally worn out screaming "YEEEHAW, WHAT A RIDE!!!" - my grandpa -My New Rig: cpu: AMD 6400+ 3.2ghz dual core mobo: Asus Crosshair ram: 8gb (4x2gb) geil exotera 4-4-4-12 video card MSI 8800GTS 512mb (g92) Vista:x64 Laptop: Dell i9300 2.16ghz-2gb ram-6800-17" 1920x1200 -Toasty/Tonk/Chair http://tgtonk.notlong.com

02-16-2007, 11:26 PM	#6 (permalink)
Rincewind Join Date: May 2005 Location: Casting useless spells in Oklahoma. Age: 27 Posts: 2,716	Re: WTS WOW (2 copies) and 60 priest/warrior Interestingly enough, when I transfered a character to another server, it gave me the option to transfer that character to another WoW account. Blizzard makes it easy to transfer characters without having to transfer the account. __________________ ~~ Veritas simplex oratio est ~~ No matter how far a wizard goes, he will always come back for his hat. --T. Pratchett <---- You know you're getting old when you rely on your forum meta-data to remind you how old you are. Required Reading for all TG sandboxers

02-17-2007, 08:36 AM	#7 (permalink)
Apophis Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Rhode Island, USA Age: 35 Posts: 8,858	Re: WTS WOW (2 copies) and 60 priest/warrior For clarity's sake. It's against their TOS to SELL a character. It is not "illegal" to sell a character. __________________ Diplomacy is the art of saying "good doggie" while looking for a bigger stick.

02-17-2007, 12:47 PM	#8 (permalink)
ShooDaddy Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Eastern U.S Posts: 65	Re: WTS WOW (2 copies) and 60 priest/warrior Things like this are complicated. I don't see why we can't sell or trade any character to anygame It still took time to make it, the person is gaining an advantage, and half the time they can't play a character well, so who cares. Just doesn't make sence to me. __________________ I see, I come, I conquer.

02-19-2007, 08:03 PM	#9 (permalink)
cptCuervo Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Boulder, CO Posts: 321	Re: WTS WOW (2 copies) and 60 priest/warrior Thanks for the clarification... I'm not going to "Sell" my accounts.. but I have some characters available for transfer

03-08-2007, 09:31 AM	#15 (permalink)
Pancake King Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia Age: 28 Posts: 29	Re: WTS WOW (2 copies) and 60 priest/warrior Well, if you're saying you want to sell the time/effort you put into it, I hate to say it, but if it's legal, then you gotta pay tax....

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