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Old 11-14-2009, 12:57 PM   #1 (permalink)
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MW2 is not that bad!

Wow! I have heard all the arguments against buying the game and protesting IW/Activision for publishing the game in its PC form. I am not going to argue that there needs to be some work done on the dedicated servers, but otherwise the game is fine.

Now it is not some masterpiece of on-line play like ArmA (bias there!), but it is a whole lot of fun that has a lot of positives that out weight most of the negatives. But as always it is not for everyone and some will be totally against it which is fine.

The negatives are pretty much all well covered in the countless threads here are TG, but to simply recap a couple of the major ones I saw:
  1. No dedicated server. It would be nice I TG could host a dedicated server.
  2. The campaign pretty much blows. It was easy to begin with, you really feel like you are running an obstacle course versus some wide open game that allows for freedom of movement. It really doesn’t let you fail, it seems pretty straight forward.
  3. No admin tools. I haven’t had any issues personally, but eventually there will be clowns that need to be removed from a game.
  4. Steam. I hate Steam more than I do IW. Steam should have a master list of servers, by game type mode, of all the servers running. That is the case for most Steam Games.

Here are some of the positives I have seen:
  1. Leveling is addicting. There are so many options that are opened up at certain levels, so it becomes “one more round” in an effort to get the next weapon of item unlocked.
  2. Maybe because it is new or it is on Steam, but I have seen no blatant cheating. That is not to say that it may become more prevalent once more people play it.
  3. Hardcore Mode is spot on. I have seen plenty of games try to achieve what MW2 did with that option of play.
  4. The “challenges” really balance out the game play. If you have not seen them, they are basically rewards you get for X amount of things like knife kills while using a certain perk. This does seem to allow for newer players to jump on using a no scope, because each level creates a new weapon that is vanilla.
  5. It is not a sniper fest. Snipers have their role in this game, but only on certain maps at best. The games to balance itself out by rewarding users of SMGs and pistols in more close quarter combat maps.
  6. Ping matching. It matches pings for me really well and I haven’t had any real lag. People say the moving of a host is a issue, for me it is maybe 5 seconds before I am back in game at the exact spot I left.

Now overall, it is a playable game. It runs smooth and looks great. The sounds are awesome and add to the overall fun. I am not a fan of certain modes of play, but others rock, but at least you have a choice. My overall assessment of it is it should be a $30 game not a $60. So take that for what it is worth….
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Re: MW2 is not that bad!

Whoever says the campaign isn't good needs to get checked, yeah some parts are a little drag but overall it's a great experience with some of the best plot twists I've seen in a game.

Your other 3 complaints are center around dedicated servers. So it's basically one giant complain of lack of dedicated servers.

I will admit that leveling was quite addicting to say the least. I don't even know how many hours I played while saying "Just one more round."

I don't like some of the sounds. It's like they removed the sound quality to make room for other features. I can't even hear half the guns firing in this game.

I still don't like the 3rd person animation reloads or movements, they look cheaply done.
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Campaign doesnt have too many levels but the levels are drawn out and the content in them is amazing. As for MP, despite the lack of servers it is spot on. There is so much to do and the perks are amazing and none of them are too noobish. I mean I could go on and on but there are like 12 killstreak rewards and u get to choose which 3 u want once u unlock em. So glad I got this game. AMAZING SP and AWESOME MP.
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Re: MW2 is not that bad!

The single player looks pretty neat, I didn't legally access this game because I am disgusted at the way they decided to go about the multiplayer. The game does not look any better graphically then cod4 to be quite honest.

I agree with the 30 dollar assessment of this game, its almost not even worth that. **** Activision.
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The single player looks pretty neat, I didn't legally access this game because I am disgusted at the way they decided to go about the multiplayer. The game does not look any better graphically then cod4 to be quite honest.

I agree with the 30 dollar assessment of this game, its almost not even worth that. **** Activision.
Just because they removed dedicated servers and switched back to matchmaking doesn't justify illegally obtaining the game. The developers still spent countless hours and millions developing the game, so each purchase made goes to support them, not just the bigwigs running Activision and Infinity Ward.

Yes, I absolutely hate the negative aspects of the game, but I still paid for my copy and would expect others to do so themselves if they even just plan on playing the campaign missions. As I would eventually be a employee of the industry, I wouldn't like it if all my work went down the drain and could be freely had via pirating. That would mean my livelihood is at a risk.

If you don't want to pay the $60 now, wait a month or two and get a cheaper copy (say at $40).
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Re: MW2 is not that bad!

I don't know, they fudged the game up so bad I can't really get on my high horse and put down the pirates on this. I don't feel they put much work into the pc part of the game, more like a last minute effort. just my opinion.
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If you don't want to pay the $60 now, wait a month or two and get a cheaper copy (say at $40).
Hold on there. Call of Duty 4 is still $40 now, and was full price for over a year after release. I doubt this will be much different even if PC gamers reject it.

Also, NewEgg has it for $53 with free shipping now because of their general lower price on all games period.
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The developers already got paid. All this money coming in from sales goes to the publisher, and the sales effects the chance of the title getting a sequel. So not buying the game is just as bad pirating it.
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Hold on there. Call of Duty 4 is still $40 now, and was full price for over a year after release. I doubt this will be much different even if PC gamers reject it.

Also, NewEgg has it for $53 with free shipping now because of their general lower price on all games period.
I don't know, I think it will make a difference. The price should drop if sales plummet after a few days (or weeks). It's not like it's a universal copy where you can bring it over to your console to play.

Call of Duty 4 may be an exception seeing how MW2 doesn't have dedicate servers. The pricing there may still hover near $40 in another year with much of the PC gaming base staying with the title (or with WaW).
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Here are some of the positives I have seen:
  1. Leveling is addicting. There are so many options that are opened up at certain levels, so it becomes “one more round” in an effort to get the next weapon of item unlocked.
  2. Maybe because it is new or it is on Steam, but I have seen no blatant cheating. That is not to say that it may become more prevalent once more people play it.
  3. Hardcore Mode is spot on. I have seen plenty of games try to achieve what MW2 did with that option of play.
  4. The “challenges” really balance out the game play. If you have not seen them, they are basically rewards you get for X amount of things like knife kills while using a certain perk. This does seem to allow for newer players to jump on using a no scope, because each level creates a new weapon that is vanilla.
  5. It is not a sniper fest. Snipers have their role in this game, but only on certain maps at best. The games to balance itself out by rewarding users of SMGs and pistols in more close quarter combat maps.
  6. Ping matching. It matches pings for me really well and I haven’t had any real lag. People say the moving of a host is a issue, for me it is maybe 5 seconds before I am back in game at the exact spot I left.
Almost half of the positives you list are that the ping is not bad and the snipers are not overpowered. Not exactly something they'd put on the back of the box, yeah?

The other positives sound like you're describing CoD4. So you're saying if people already own CoD4, there's no point in getting MW2?
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switched back to matchmaking
They had matchmaking in the past?
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the sales effects the chance of the title getting a sequel. So not buying the game is just as bad pirating it.
I think you're missing the point. If a sequel is going to continue down the direction MW2 is going, then the people not buying MW2 won't want to buy a sequel. However if MW2 sells far fewer copies than CoD4, then the developer might realise they've gone in the wrong direction, and bring the next game back in line, and then we'll all buy that one and everyone will be happy.
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However if MW2 sells far fewer copies than CoD4.....

The PC VERSION of MW2 may sell less copies than CoD4, but i can almost guarantee that the 360/PS3 sales will be higher, and we already know they care more about the console market than PCs, and they will just port the console version to PC with any future sequels just like with MW2
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Just because they removed dedicated servers and switched back to matchmaking doesn't justify illegally obtaining the game. The developers still spent countless hours and millions developing the game, so each purchase made goes to support them, not just the bigwigs running Activision and Infinity Ward.

Yes, I absolutely hate the negative aspects of the game, but I still paid for my copy and would expect others to do so themselves if they even just plan on playing the campaign missions. As I would eventually be a employee of the industry, I wouldn't like it if all my work went down the drain and could be freely had via pirating. That would mean my livelihood is at a risk.

If you don't want to pay the $60 now, wait a month or two and get a cheaper copy (say at $40).
I agree completely. There is NO justifying piracy. Simple. It's no different than shop lifting. If you want to stick it to the man, buy a different game. Support the industry, don't hurt it.

Personally speaking, I'm looking forward to playing it, and am happy to see people look at the positives as well as the negatives. Makes the resulting purchase that much more easier to decide upon.
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The PC VERSION of MW2 may sell less copies than CoD4, but i can almost guarantee that the 360/PS3 sales will be higher, and we already know they care more about the console market than PCs, and they will just port the console version to PC with any future sequels just like with MW2
yep... 4.7 million copies in the US and UK in the first 24 hours. Id say thats higher.
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