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11-16-2009, 03:50 PM #1
Banned from russia
Well, it would appear that the Russian government has taken action on MW2, and are banning (or thinking of banning) the game. The official reason is that it is due to the contorvisal mission talked about earlier, however the couple people i know that have played the campaign are thinking it is due to the entire campaign. Can anyone confirm if the campaign gives the Russians a 'bad image,' and paints them as blood thirsty killing machine?
http://www.pcworld.com/article/18223..._shelves.html/
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11-16-2009, 04:27 PM #2
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Killing Machines? If your country is suddenly attack for no apparent reason a war will be started. (9/11 for example)
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11-16-2009, 04:44 PM #3
Re: Banned from russia
The Russian version has been recalled and the first level level has been removed in a censored version that will be released soon.

"It's better to go into a corner slow and come out fast than it is to go into a corner fast and come out dead."
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"An honorable Peace is and always was my first wish! I can take no delight in the effusion of
human Blood; but, if this War should continue, I wish to have the most active part in it."
John Paul Jones, letter to Gouverneur Morris, Sept 2, 1782
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11-16-2009, 05:21 PM #4
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Actually, I'm not sure if this is old news being posted as new on the site above. I believe the Russian version of the game had already removed the "No Russian" level. As for the rest of the game depicting Russians as attacking the United States...well that's another point.
This is how it plays out:
Ultra-nationalists from the previous MW1 storyline take over Russia. They then make the terrorist Zakarev a national hero. Zakarev's own lieut. Makarov decides to cause a ****storrn and kills people at the airport ("No Russian") level. He then kills the undercover CIA agent (you) making it look like the terrorist act was American endorsed (since the CIA agent is an American).
Russia then invades the **** out of the United States (This part doesnt make sense but its a video game), though it really looks like its more of an invasion of Virgina and Maryland. Anyways, Washington DC gets jacked, the President is nowhere to be found, and people are dying left and right as you save Burger World, Taco GoGo, and a bank from "Ivan". You also save some nice looking neighboorhoods from Russians intent on using them or stealing from them or whatever. Anyways, the 200 people or so who died at the airport trigger the Russians into killing thousands of Americans.
And then Price launches a nuke from a Russian sub at Washington. Anyways, it makes Russians look bad. But then again Russia got taken over by ultra nationalists. Think Nazis. Either way, they really messed up the plot and the next game for sure is going to be more like a YOU stuck between two evils (The US and Russia). But at least what it does is wipe the slate clean for a different kind of story.
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11-16-2009, 05:28 PM #5
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"It's better to go into a corner slow and come out fast than it is to go into a corner fast and come out dead."
Sir Sterling Moss
"An honorable Peace is and always was my first wish! I can take no delight in the effusion of
human Blood; but, if this War should continue, I wish to have the most active part in it."
John Paul Jones, letter to Gouverneur Morris, Sept 2, 1782
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11-16-2009, 05:50 PM #6
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It was a really weak plot device for something as monumental as a reason for one large country to attack another in an all-out war.
"Comrade, this man is CIA! I know because... uh... actually, the IW writers haven't told me how I know that, but I know! Because he is CIA, he must have been acting purposely! The United States intentionally sanctioned an act of terrorism by committing mass murder at an airport that holds no strategic or tactical value! Let us mount up and RIDE, COMRADES! ON TO WAR!!!"
Seriously, huh? There was no sense and zero gain for the US to sanction an act of terrorism. Real-world, the Russians would have had some serious diplomatic questions, and there would have been the issue of why we didn't let them know this was going to happen... but the hinge-point for an all-out war? C'mon.
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11-16-2009, 07:09 PM #7
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So, since I read some articles a week ago about Activision removing the No Russian level before release, and then seeing the articles today, it must mean they missed that feature. Oh well! Nobody likes their people portrayed as bastard snakes in the grass geocidists or warmongering lets attack the US because they have money sort of speak.
Maybe...just maybe, Shepard set it all up because he was SO damn pissed at losing 30,000 soldiers in MW1 to a nuke. So then he works with the CIA to cook up this under cover business knowing that Makarov will find out about Allen, and kill him and cause a war? Anyways, in the end its like, plot fail, who cares.
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11-17-2009, 02:09 PM #8
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"It's better to go into a corner slow and come out fast than it is to go into a corner fast and come out dead."
Sir Sterling Moss
"An honorable Peace is and always was my first wish! I can take no delight in the effusion of
human Blood; but, if this War should continue, I wish to have the most active part in it."
John Paul Jones, letter to Gouverneur Morris, Sept 2, 1782
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11-17-2009, 03:52 PM #9
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11-18-2009, 04:06 AM #10
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What is with Activision and their stupid plot and horrible decision with Multi-player, are they letting a nut job in the decision making seat.








When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace. ~ Jimi Hendrix
And isn't it a bad thing to be deceived about the truth, and a good thing to know what the truth is? For I assume that by knowing the truth you mean knowing things as they really are. ~ Plato
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11-21-2009, 04:11 AM #11
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For some reason I actually liked the plot and it made sense when you tied all the dialog pieces together.
SPOILERS GALORE (in a thread filled with them anyways)
Shepard blames the Ultra-nationalists for the nuke going off in MW1 and since they've taken over Russia he directs that blame towards Russia.
Shepard recruits your first character for a CIA deep op and pairs him up with Makarov then leaks that information to him.
Makarov uses this information to stage the "No Russian" attack and then plants you at the scene.
You're identified as having been recruited by the CIA and a US Ranger so Russia plays the 'victim' and gets revenge by attacking the US.
^- Think 9/11 where Al queda is the CIA. Since you were attacked by an agency sponsored by a country, you attack the country in response.
During the attack several key VIPs are assassinated and the US leadership is pretty much defaulting to Shepard.
Price is rescued and has a bone to pick with the Russians for his 'rescue' in MW1 and since the Russians are attacking the US he launches the nuke from a Russian sub to EMP the invaders and cool things down on that front.
Shepard capitalizes on the nuclear launch and gains full authority to do whatever it takes to 'stabilize the situation'.
141 is sent to two of Makarov's strong points to try to catch him and wipe him out. Detailed documentation of the attack in No Russian is found and a plot shift occurs.
At this point 141 is expendable and Shepard tries to wipe them and Makarov out at the same time. If you think of an all out invasion/war with Russia as Shepard's ultimate objective then the reason why it all plays out this way is because of a change in conditions. Shepard worked with 141 before this point to try and catch and silence Makarov so the true nature of the attack isn't released to the Russians and the US invasion is stopped. After this point he has documentation of the attack which he can doctor and release as he sees fit and full military authority without limits so the Russian invasion is no longer needed for martial law and both Makarov and 141 are liabilities because they know and have witnessed the truth. Price strikes a deal with Makarov and the end phase plays out.
Either MW2 is going to be 'episodic' in nature with additional campaigns released to continue to story line (it ended on a much BIGGER cliffhanger in MW2 than MW1) or MW3 is going to be used to continue the story. Either way, I want to see how the plot ends because there are a lot of unanswered questions left over. Personally I'm betting on episodic since they even went to the trouble of naming the campaign "For the Record".My sanity is not in question...
It was a confirmed casualty some time ago.
Light, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to hide the bodies of the people I had to kill because they ticked me off.





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11-22-2009, 06:30 PM #12
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Re: Banned from russia
There are many interpretations on how the plot works. There are too many plot holes which allows speculation.
Example: Shepard actually pays terrorist for hire Makarov to stage the attack on the Russian Airport. He plants "CIA" agent Allen into Makarov to let Makarov use him as a scapegoat.
This essentialyl makes Shepard the big enemy, but it goes against his patriotic character. There are at least a dozen different takes on who did what. Overall, the singleplayer was pretty disappointing (though with all the plot twists I guess thats as good as their writers could do).Last edited by P.Drona; 11-22-2009 at 10:15 PM. Reason: Language
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