birdie_in_Texas

AHH..!!! then I WIN..!!! muahahahaahahha!!

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jmaker

(Mel Gibson) Gimmie back my hardcore server!!

I think Coupon pretty much covered everything. I don't like how someone can survive two 3 round bursts from the M16 at medium range.

Holy hell can we have time to select our kit loadouts in the beginning? The first round every single time only 1 person ever makes it in.

I don't know why everybody doesn't suit up with a shotgun every round. That looked to be one hit can't miss.

Reduced sprint distance? Doesn't really make a difference, I still saw people whip around the map first thing first.

For whatever reason there just wasn't that many players on tonight. Maybe they don't know about the switchover. Hate to say it, but this server is just not as fun as our previous hardcore server.

Call me crazy but 1-2 shots with any weapon should be enough to take down anyone. Is that not 'tactical realism'? I'm not sure what was wrong with our previous server? Hell I even liked the UAV/Airstrike/Heli. Those just increased the immersion factor. It just made me feel like I'm in a real live battle. Why not keep those but just modify how they're attained. Make the kill streak higher. And as far as snipers go, I also didn't mind if everyone decides to choose that weapon. When they fire it's no secret where they are.

Yeah I don't know, I'm just not down with these settings. I seriously thought our previous hardcore server was an absolute blast to play on. Hell that's why I would play every single night for 3+ hours and stay up way past the time I needed to be up. But this new server, meh not so much.

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UnDeaD77

Hopefully we can get 1.1 up soon to try it out, to see if the weapons are any more powerful, I'm not sure what happened to the weapons with this mod, there were no settings changed on our end. I'll have to ask the author of the mod Zeroy.

Our main focus with this mod was to disable the use of a few perks, and weapons for balance, along with disabling Uav/chopper and airstrikes.

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Makarov

I'm totally bummed with the current server settings. The hardcore server fubars the weapon kits and is just not fun with it's current settings. I concur with jmaker, the hardcore server was an absolute blast to play on. Can we at least make the vanilla server into the hardcore server like we had before? The current vanilla server is a pure bunny-hoppin' spawn/frag fest. Many people online voiced tonight how they missed the old server. Thanks for reading my bitch fest...

I'm not opposed to the new mod'ed hardcore server...I just don't think it's ready for primetime.

UnDeaD77

There is a split in the people that play COD4 at TG, some like the hardcore S&D and some like the vanilla server. Vanilla is much faster paced, but its not a frag fest, and we're still not allowing bunnyhopping on the server, I've been dishing out warnings tonight for it. I like both types of gameplay fast and slow.

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CouponClippr

I'm with jmaker and Marakov. The original server 2 (H/C S&D) is what brought me into TG. I loved playing on that server with everyone. The communication and tactics were great. The new server isn't as fun, IMHO.

Next, the new server 2 during Sabotage was pure run and gun, frag out, bunny hopping with little to no communication. When the server cycled to HQ and Domination, it was more fun. Domination started to bring out some comm. All in all, I miss the old H/C server.

Gillespie

Except for the odd weapon performance, I see no difference in the "old" HC and the modded HC.

Good riddance to magic personal radar UAVs, airstrikes that drop GBUs with the explosion radius of grenades, and helicopters. Everything else is the same, with the inclusion of hit markers (the white "X" you see in your crosshairs when you shoot someone) being disabled.

Being able to fiddle with the weapons during the round is also a HUGE bonus. The loss of such things as weapon skins is fluff.

The minor quibbles:

1. Very quick switches between maps. It was fun to wind down between maps and discuss things. Perhaps a 10 second timer?

2. You have to be quick-draw McGee to get a kit selection before the round begins. Increasing the timer before the match kicks off on a new map would help.

3. Bizarre weapon performance. My theory is that the weapon damage was slightly decreased. No more one-shot kills, so far as I can tell. It's not a systemic problem, but it will catch you unaware at times, mostly at distance. It's a minor adjustment, and at times a welcome change depending on your circumstances in a match.

Let's continue this route. The mod has great promise... it just needs tweaking.

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darksteel525

Agree on all points. Those are the only points I would like to see changed.

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Clodhopper

This mod gives more options for tweeks, which is why it's enabled now. Just putting it through its paces, seeing what we can leave and what we could and should change. Expect changes to come in time

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Zoopy_T

I feel the exact opposite. With the mod it forces good mid-close range combat instead of just long range campfest. On stock hardcore a good chunk of players would get hosed running 5 meters out of the spawn area by someone way at the other spawn. Maps like Bog, District and Countdown were unplayable since everyone laid by the spawn waiting for attackers to move out of theirs.

The Sniper Kit limit is nice for maps like Bloc. I played once where half the other team were Snipers and everywhere you ran it was claymore after claymore. Although normal classes can take claymores as well, it is guaranteed a Sniper will have claymores.

As I said many, many, many, many times before, this can be done by just making a config file and running it from the modwarfare folder. No third party mod needed.

Long Bow

I managed to play for a few hours last night on the new modded server and I have a similar opinion as the others, the fun of the "old server 2" just wasn't there. I was tempted to switch over to server 2 after about an hour however it sounds like it doesn't exist in the same form anymore?

I can't really put my finger on it but a big thing was the weapon damage and/or accuracey. I don't know if it was the accuracey or the reduced damage or what exactly but there were several times I had a good position to engage only to have the person run on by. I know I found myself sometimes opening up with a weapon I use often, on a stationary enemy and firing burst after burst to no effect. I don't know if I missed alot or the damage and accuracey were affecting me? Also while spectacting my teamates I noticed times where people were taking 2 clean shots and surviving. The overall feel of the game changed from what server 2 was playing like. For me I really like that in Hardcore if you are a cautious player, stay crouched and use iron sights that you can accurately engage an enemy first and take him down. So many other vanilla fps I have played never rewarded me for this, usually I get the drop on a player - fire first only to be sprayed to death by a running smg'er. I'm not suggesting the current settings are rewarding run and gun but they have taken away the fire-first advantage.

Now the other settings I did enjoy and really have no complaints about the removal of the perks and weapons. I agree that there needs to be more pre and post round time for discusion and kit selection.

Again it boiled down to the game play just not being as tacticaly fun as what server 2 hardcore S&D was. By the end of the night I was starting to adjust to things but I had to resort to using the SAW alot to ensure I could put enough shots on target. I think its going to take a while to set this server up to be something most TG'ers are going to really enjoy.

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UnDeaD77

Well, we really like some of the features this mod gives us though. I just found out the problem, its the players default health, its @ 120, and needs to be back to 100.

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CouponClippr

I hope this makes the game more fun again.

Zoopy_T

If the damage goes back to stock hardcore I doubt I'll be playing. Dieing in the first 5 seconds of a map is preaty lame.

darksteel525

The admins could make a rule for that. No firing in the spawn zone for the first (insert number here) seconds or something like that.

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