UnDeaD77

It is a rule, not to kill someone in their spawn.

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Long Bow

Well I hope that the health reduction is the problem and that there isn't accuracey and weapons issues as well. Any time frame on changing the health back?

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Zoopy_T

It's must be an invisible rule then.

Long Bow

Well it isn't stated exactly there is this statement:

"What offences can an admin kick/ban for?
Admins are free to take whatever action they deem necessary to maintain the high standards we demand on our servers."

So if an admin is on and it becomes a problem you may be able to have it dealt with via this rule until something more concrete is in place?

I agree that on certain maps the spawns are placed in harms way within seconds of the round starting and this shouldn't be abused.

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CouponClippr

It's not the damage that would increase. The health would simply be back at 100.

I thought the original server 2 was good. I would be ok with minor tweaks. I guess some people weren't happy enough with it though.

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I do not want the whole mod removed. I will try to pin point the things that makes people leave. The mod seems to bring extra demand on the video cards. At least I saw decrease in my fps. It is annoying, and takes away the fun.

Also the server 1 has some lag spike going off now and then. I don't know if it was just a one time thing or if server 1 is weaker than server 2. Also a fun take away.

Shotgun might seem powerful, and it is when you stay confined in close range combat areas. It is a certain win since shotgun will take only one shot take the enemy ouot while they try to put in 2-3 bullets in you. The catch is to limit youself into buildings. If we are going to keep the current settings, we might consider limiting Demolitions class to 1 or 2 as well.

I really really want keep the hit indicator off. People will spam through walls but if they do not know they are getting hits, they will stop and conserve their ammo.

I tried to play last night. But the server 1 went empty after hitting 16 at high point once. The comms were there at least on my team. Everybody was having fun till the other team started to lose players. After server 1 becoming empty I tried the other server which was a super disappointment. Saw bunny hopping a lot. No communication or no way to communicate. On DOM nobody knows who is in charge, and whenever I give out defend what we have order nobody listens. Their adneraline is too rushed up by the fast pace to stay in one spot, they have to hunt.

Anyway what I am getting to is the current settings are killing the enjoyment. No place to play all of a sudden is having me seek another server. But once you go hardcore, it is frustrating to go back to vanilla, and once you experience TG style gameplay, it is way too hard to play without comminucation.

This is just an input. I didn't mean to challenge anybody. I am just trying to help make TG the place to be.

L10N

I'm going to refrain from replying to any of the vanilla bashing and get to my other points.

I doubt that a 20 health difference is enough to make killing hard there is probably something screwed up with the weapons if that many people are having problems. I mean 100 is stock, juggernaut is supposed to be 135 or 145, and hardcore is supposed to be 30 or 40. Maybe it is also possible a lot of the players here frequent instagank mode and don't know what it usually takes in normal mode?

I'm looking forward to giving this a try when I finish my finals, if it doesn't have hardcore style health I think I would like it. Just have to ask is server 1 s&d right now with the mod or is it mixed modes?

CouponClippr

If H/C is really 30-40 like you said, I think somewhere around 90 would be ideal for the new H/C server.

L10N

http://chkilroy.com/cod4/ I've posted it elsewhere but it will be useful for anyone who wants an idea of what health should be. 10-20 health will really only change performance on a few guns. I think 70-80 would make guns lethal with out making weapons like the g3, m14, or lmg's too overpowered.

HgMaDHaTTeR

I played the modded server for awhile last night and it was a fun time overall. The lasers should go IMO, they seem pretty unrealistic. Should aiming from the hip be easier than through the iron sights? Could it be made a gun attachment, so there would at least be a choice between laser and silencer?

As far as perks go, I agree with removing martyr and last stand, but so many perks are removed there is basically no choice left besides deciding if perk 1 will be 3x special or claymores. I think bandoleer, frag x3 (maybe assault/spec ops only), double tap and bomb squad should be added.

Also, the default kit (or at least the assault default) is set up weird. If you don't select a special grenade, you don't get one at all. And the bandoleer perk is selected by default, but I don't think it does anything.

Gillespie

It's not inaccuracy. It's a minor health improvement (I was guessing either health buff, or weapon debuff). I was still getting some nice one-burst kills with my M16. There was only one moment that stands out, and that's when I fired about 3 or 4 bursts at Doctor and he didn't die (he said he was near death, though).

It's this combined with the illusion of inaccuracy due to the lack of hit indicators that leads players to think that everything is screwed up. It's really not. It's a minor change.

Also... if you go running around thinking you'll "pwn" everyone now that you can use a laser... you're kind of handicapping yourself. Bullet spread when shooting from the hip is pretty extreme. Use it when you're in close. Don't think not having a crosshair is any sort of detriment towards this style of shooting. There's nothing that stops me from centering a bad guy in the middle of my screen and firing away from the hip. The rounds will spray out to such a degree when shooting from the hip that crosshairs are pointless anyway.

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Makarov

One thing I noticed on the mod server last night was there was no weapon sway. When I was kneeling or standing, the weapon was perfectly still. I really enjoyed the slight weapon sway that was on the HC server. Perhaps it just got disabled.

Looking forward to getting the modded server similar to the HC one, but with more realistic additions.

Gillespie

There's weapon sway. Some weapons have it, some do not. I notice the G3 with reflex sight does not sway, but slap an ACOG on? Sway.

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Long Bow

For me I would simply like the act of shooting and downing the enemy to be what it was on server 2 hardcore. I can accept some more sway and bullet spread as certain weapons need it IMO.

I was also experiencing lag spikes last night, something I never had on server 2.

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Size12point5

O.k. I don't normally respond to forum threads but, I was pretty eager to get home tonight and play some S&D on my favorite server. I logged on and noticed I was downloading something really quick. I honestly had no idea what it was, I was just happy to be playing. Right away I was wondering what happend to my custom slots. No problem, I thought, must have to do with what I downloaded.

I tried to set up my weapon the way I wanted and noticed I was limited on options. At first I thought that all my hard work was lost and I was having to start over again, I've heard of people having this problem, losing all their ranks. I instantly pressed tab to see my 55 ranking and was not so worried. Anyways, I started out like I normaly do, moving slow and protecting/defending the A/B target. With a quick sprint from one area to the next, I was moving at grandmas pace. I'm thinking to myself that the lag is really bad tonight. No worries. I'll just shoot the next bafoon that tries to sneak by me and plant the bomb. I see someone. I unload half my clip from my saw and I don't see a kill. What the heck. I'm never that bad of aim. I had him targeted and then.....nothing. He pops his head around the corner and I get hit twice and die. That sucks.

I play one more round. Get one kill. Can't hit the broad side of a barn. (kill was from a claymore) I'm not too fond of that. I didn't have my teamspeak running, but I heard someone else say "I had him scoped in to the middle of my crosshairs, I don't know how I missed him". So, after hearing that, I don't want to be frustrated that the game is jipping me of a kill when I have someone scoped in perfectly so I left.

When I joined the other server all of my custom slots said "custom slot". That sucks too.

IMHO I think the direction you are trying to go is great! There are some quirks to work out, just like others have stated. Loading issues, weapon damage and granny sprints (which I can live with). I love the removal of airstrikes and helicopter. The UAV after 3 kills should stay. It made the game more interesting.

Maybe I should get back on and really evaluate the whole picture a little better but, I think I can agree with almost everything Coupon is saying. It's still a good server but has notched the fun factor down a little until some of the issues are improved.

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