Originally Posted by Chef40

I dont see how TDM can be considered tactical in anyway shape or form. It does not represent "Support game play in a near-simulation environment." What simulation does TDM represent?

The near simulation was both teams being tasked with assaulting and holding a specific objective. TDM was simply used as a sandbox because it allows the most flexibility when experimenting with different objectives, tasks or rules of engagement.

I think CTF had a lot more problems than the the TDM rounds with regard to folks following orders and completing the objective.

Originally Posted by Chef40

Sure you set up an "objective" but that really doesnt change anything. Most people in the match I was playing werent following that.

It's all about leadership and teamwork. I tried where I could to rein players in, get them to squad up, and play the objectives. A bunch of other folks were doing this as well, not just the admins. Don't be afraid to ask the lone wolves, by name, to work with the team.

This is a problem that happens with every game mode and not just when we're playing with some additional ad hoc rules.

Originally Posted by Chef40

I dont think there is any conspiracy at all. I get that you guys wanted to "blow off steam" as Killdaddy said to me in TS last night. I just think that it should have been done on a closed server.

You're entitled to your opinion. The fact is that folks did a really good job of informing newcomers of the rules of engagement like crouch only and what the objective was. I only kicked one person all night and that was for no time because they refused to squad up during CTF. When he returned he joined a squad as asked.

Originally Posted by Chef40

I know, I for one didnt sign up for TG to play TDM in any form. CTF has its merits for being tactical, Sabatoge and Headquarters, kinda fit in. S&D is the most tactical that the COD series offers. One death and thats it. HQ has its own way of evening things out by not allowing the team who captured it to spawn untill its destroyed. Sabatoge is fun every once in awhile to have the bomb go back and forth, once again, there is a FIRM target.

I am not against as previously stated mix-moded, just not TDM, it has no place in TG.

Technically, were we even playing TDM as most folks would think of it? I don't think so. We had a specific objective (FIRM target)for both sides, just like HQ, that also happened to be fixed(FIRM). Again, we used TDM simply as a sandbox.

WaW has some great maps that don't get used to their full potential in S&D. We've tried HQ and it can be a major pain with lots of spawn killing and folks not playing the objective. Last night was an opportunity to use different portions of the maps that hardly get used on S&D and create our own battlespace based on player input and requests.

I'm sorry you didn't have a better time.