PTBS BTS: The Gathering Storm - Signup

**Bernout** · 03-12-2008, 09:13 PM

TG BTS: The Gathering Storm

The game has now been started.

The Goal

This is the 2nd game being hosted by the 6th Marine Division (|TG-MD6|) at TG. This time around Bernout will again be doing the admin role but TG is providing the Beyond The Sword (BTS) server.

As with the first game, the goal is to have fun playing one of the best strategy computer games!

The server will have a 24 hour turn timer which makes the game accessible to casual gamers plus is friendly to players in all time zones. Players new to Civ4 or Civ4 multiplayer are welcome and encouraged to sign up and enjoy the experience!

Please read the remainder of this post in its entirety.

Expectations and Rules

This game will last months. If you don't have the patience to stick with the game until it ends then this is not the game for you.

It is a good idea, if possible, to have someone outside of the game who can substitute for you in the event of an extended absence. Letting the timer expire or turning your nation over to the AI temporarily are always options. Note that no player, including substitutes, are allowed to do turns for more than one nation! Also, if you are going to disappear for longer than a couple of days, letting the timer expire in the process, please let everyone know so nothing unexpected is done with your nation while you are away.

TG's gaming philosophy will be in full effect. The simultaneous nature of the server means the game isn't truly turn based. It is possible to take back to back turns and gain an unfair advantage over another player, especially during a war. Rather than come up with a long list of rules all players will be expected to avoid these type of situations to the best of their ability and we'll deal with problems as they arise. All issues are expected to be raised in a timely manner, no more than 1 turn after it happened, and will be resolved by player consensus.

The TG web site, especially this forum and private messaging (PM), are going to be the main means for players to discuss the game. Please check them on a regular basis once the game starts and remember that diplomacy is highly encouraged! A player list will be created once the game starts so that it is easy to send a PM to someone.

No preset alliances please. Note as well that there can only be one winner no matter what alliances are formed during the game.

You will need official BTS patch 3.13. Note that you will not be able to connect to the server if you have Bhruic's unofficial 3.13 patch installed.

We will be using CivStats so that players can monitor the server status. Email notification will also be supported. More information will be provided upon game start.

Advanced Start

In order to get off to a faster start, without needing to do a realtime session, we will be using the Advanced Start feature with 600 gold available to be used.

Some important points:

Please practice, practice, and practice using the Advanced Start feature prior to game start! How you start off your nation could have a big impact on how well you do in the game. If you want advice, have questions, or want to share ideas with other players then don't hesitate to start up a new topic in the forums if one doesn't already exist.

A Reference Guide is available which provides the cost of everything you can do.

We will not be doing restarts like originally planned so this emphasizes the need to read the reference guide and practice doing Advanced Starts. You need to get it right the first time! Some actions, such as increasing a city's population, can be undone by hitting the right mouse button. Also, once you place your capital city you must finish your setup; leaving the game will automatically end the setup process.

This goes without saying, but if you are aware of exploits which give you an unfair advantage, then do not use them!

Game Format

Nation Assignments

Players will be assigned player numbers based on an alphabetical list of TG account names. Nations and their leaders will be assigned randomly.

Difficulty Level

The default difficulty level being used is Prince. This is one level higher than Noble. If you are a newer player to Civ 4 or Civ 4 MP and would like to start at the easier level then please make that clear in your signup. Players who have won a multiplayer game or play single player at Prince level or higher are asked to stay at the default.

Settings:

Map: Fractal
Size: Large (unless we get more than 12 players in which case Huge will be used)
Climate: Temperate
Sea Level: Medium
Era: Ancient
Speed: Normal
World Wrap: Cylindrical
Resources: Standard

Options:

Advanced Start
City Razing
City Flipping From Culture
City Flipping After Conquest
No Barbarians
Normal Religions
Technology Trading
No Technology Brokering
No Permanent Alliances
No Require Complete Kills
No Vassal States
No Tribal Villages
Random Events

Victory:

Time
Conquest
Domination
Cultural
Space Race
Diplomatic

Multiplayer:

Simultaneous Turns
Take Over AI
Turn Timer - 24 hours (approx. 28 hours of real time at game start)
Advanced Start Base Points: 600

Sign Up

The game will start on Saturday, March 29 at approximately 5:00 pm GMT (1:00 pm EST). You may sign up at any point before game start once this topic is unlocked on March 15.

The server supports 18 players. If more than 18 people sign up, priority will be given to TG supporting members. Anyone not given a starting position is encouraged to be a substitute. Note that in the first game (A City Too Far), we had at least 3 people substitute who then took over the nation for the rest of the game!

To reserve a spot, please reply to this topic with:

Please acknowledge that you have read and understood the first message of this signup topic
Civ4 Player Name:
Difficulty Level: Noble or Prince (if Noble, please provide a brief description of your Civ4 experience)
Time Zone:

Participants

The list will be updated as responses come in. Supporting members are listed in bold. 18 of 18 spots are filled.

Bernout
Snarlin
AFsoccer
Ashenhart
XSChunkylover77
GrizzlyDuu
Avnair
Hoplosternum
Brain Damage
namliaM
oyzar
JMaltman
Ebenezer
amh52
Shaq Zora
whiplash
Twahn
Levgree

Reserves
CingularDuality (sub)
Silver_Pipe
Provolution

**Bernout** · 03-15-2008, 12:57 PM

Signup topic read and understood.
Civ4 Player Name: Bernout
Difficulty Level: Prince
Time Zone: MDT (GMT - 6)

**Bernout** · 03-15-2008, 12:58 PM

This message being posted for Snarlin since he just left on vacation this morning.

Signup topic read and understood.
Civ4 Player Name: Snarlin
Difficulty Level: Prince
Time Zone: CDT (GMT - 5)

XSChunkylover77 · 03-15-2008, 01:03 PM

Sign up topics read and understood
Civ4 Name: XSChunkylover77
Difficlty level is Prince
Time zone is EDT

**AFsoccer** · 03-15-2008, 01:23 PM

* I have read and understood the first message of this sign-up topic.
* Civ4 Player Name: AFsoccer
* Difficulty Level: Prince
* Time Zone: Mountain (GMT-6)

Consider using Bhruic's unofficial 3.13 patch to fix some of the things that Firaxis' patch didn't, like mouse-over information.

GrizzlyDuu · 03-15-2008, 01:24 PM

Sign up topics read and understood
Civ4 Name: GrizzlyDuu
Difficlty level is Prince
Time zone is GMT +1

I would also like to save a spot for Jmaltman. He will sign in later.

JMaltman
GWT -5
Difficulty - Prince

Avnair · 03-15-2008, 02:17 PM

Name: Avnair
Difficulty level: "Please don't hurt me".... uhhhh... Prince
Time Zone: MDT... Daylight savings time screws up whatever thought I had of figuring out what that is relating to GMT.

Hoplosternum · 03-15-2008, 02:35 PM

* I have read and understood the first message of this sign-up topic.
* Civ4 Player Name: Hoplosternum
* Difficulty Level: Prince
* Time Zone: BST (GMT +1)

I am not sure if the Bhuric patch affects anything except your own game experience - in which case it does not matter if you install it or not

But for those of us in other MP games I would rather not have it insisted on. That is because if the above is wrong then it will cause version mismatches in other games. Which are a nuisance, sometimes banned (in case you have some sort of hack/cheat going on) and can cause stability issues if two people are in the game at the same time.

So while I dare say its good I doubt its worth the hassle for most of us....

Brain Damage · 03-15-2008, 06:23 PM

Hello 6MD & TG folks! I'm in.

Name: BrainDamage
Difficulty: Prince
Time Zone: CST (GMT -6:00)

Ashenhart · 03-15-2008, 06:31 PM

* Signup topic read and understood.
* Civ4 Player Name: TG-Ash
* Difficulty Level: Noble (I have never played MP before)
* Time Zone: CDT (GMT - 5)

namliaM · 03-16-2008, 02:14 PM

Signup topic read and understood.
Civ4 Player Name: namliaM
Difficulty Level: Prince
Time Zone: MDT (GMT + 1)

oyzar · 03-17-2008, 11:09 AM

Signup topic read, but i don't understand the part about reload if someone are "not happy" with their starting position. Does this mean you will create a new map? With everyone random again? or does it mean if someone misclicked or regretted something they clicked they can just roll it back? either way sounds like this can take several days even if everyone is online at the same time(which they won't be obviously...). Also it isn't actually clear how random civs will be handled. There should be made a list of who gets which civ so it is not first come, first serve..
Civ4 Player Name: oyzar
Difficulty Level: Prince
Time Zone: norway gmt+1

Other things i am curious about is what timezone is EDT, how can namliaM be in MDT but still be gmt+1?? and is GWT -5 suposed to mean GMT -5? Avnair is probably in same timezone as Bernout and not as namliaM though...

JMaltman · 03-17-2008, 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrizzlyDuu

Sign up topics read and understood
Civ4 Name: GrizzlyDuu
Difficlty level is Prince
Time zone is GMT +1

I would also like to save a spot for Jmaltman. He will sign in later.

JMaltman
GWT -5
Difficulty - Prince

Confirmed. Although with the time change just taking place, am I now -4? its 4:59pm here right now. :P

Looking forward to playing.

I would imagine your plan for random civs is as follows.

Get list of all the players in alphabetical order and post the list here.

#1: A-Noble
#2: B-Prince
#3: C-Prince
#4: D-Noble
...
etc

You replicate that same ordering when you set up the game and press start, and then each of us logs in to claim the appropriate slot's Civ - whatever randomizing chose for us.

Sounds great - I love random civs, and therefore on the fly strategy and focus.

No barbs is a weird one, and encourages some sloppiness and risk taking, but is fair overall. EXPECT other players to behave like barbarians - don't leave your workers and settlers unescorted or you could tempt someone into crippling you.

And agreed on repeated practice of advanced starts so you understand the nuances.

**Bernout** · 03-20-2008, 10:41 AM

I modified the main signup message slightly today to take into account the Advanced Start discussions in the Format Discussion topic.

We will not be doing restarts during the Advanced Start phase as originally planned.

Bernout

**CingularDuality** · 03-20-2008, 07:07 PM

I'm going to have to skip this one. Just too busy at work and home lately...

03-12-2008, 09:13 PM	#1 (permalink)
Bernout Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Colorado Springs, CO, USA Posts: 1,085	PTBS BTS: The Gathering Storm - Signup TG BTS: The Gathering Storm The game has now been started. The Goal This is the 2nd game being hosted by the 6th Marine Division (\|TG-MD6\|) at TG. This time around Bernout will again be doing the admin role but TG is providing the Beyond The Sword (BTS) server. As with the first game, the goal is to have fun playing one of the best strategy computer games! The server will have a 24 hour turn timer which makes the game accessible to casual gamers plus is friendly to players in all time zones. Players new to Civ4 or Civ4 multiplayer are welcome and encouraged to sign up and enjoy the experience! Please read the remainder of this post in its entirety. Expectations and Rules This game will last months. If you don't have the patience to stick with the game until it ends then this is not the game for you. It is a good idea, if possible, to have someone outside of the game who can substitute for you in the event of an extended absence. Letting the timer expire or turning your nation over to the AI temporarily are always options. Note that no player, including substitutes, are allowed to do turns for more than one nation! Also, if you are going to disappear for longer than a couple of days, letting the timer expire in the process, please let everyone know so nothing unexpected is done with your nation while you are away. TG's gaming philosophy will be in full effect. The simultaneous nature of the server means the game isn't truly turn based. It is possible to take back to back turns and gain an unfair advantage over another player, especially during a war. Rather than come up with a long list of rules all players will be expected to avoid these type of situations to the best of their ability and we'll deal with problems as they arise. All issues are expected to be raised in a timely manner, no more than 1 turn after it happened, and will be resolved by player consensus. The TG web site, especially this forum and private messaging (PM), are going to be the main means for players to discuss the game. Please check them on a regular basis once the game starts and remember that diplomacy is highly encouraged! A player list will be created once the game starts so that it is easy to send a PM to someone. No preset alliances please. Note as well that there can only be one winner no matter what alliances are formed during the game. You will need official BTS patch 3.13. Note that you will not be able to connect to the server if you have Bhruic's unofficial 3.13 patch installed. We will be using CivStats so that players can monitor the server status. Email notification will also be supported. More information will be provided upon game start. Advanced Start In order to get off to a faster start, without needing to do a realtime session, we will be using the Advanced Start feature with 600 gold available to be used. Some important points: Please practice, practice, and practice using the Advanced Start feature prior to game start! How you start off your nation could have a big impact on how well you do in the game. If you want advice, have questions, or want to share ideas with other players then don't hesitate to start up a new topic in the forums if one doesn't already exist. A Reference Guide is available which provides the cost of everything you can do. We will not be doing restarts like originally planned so this emphasizes the need to read the reference guide and practice doing Advanced Starts. You need to get it right the first time! Some actions, such as increasing a city's population, can be undone by hitting the right mouse button. Also, once you place your capital city you must finish your setup; leaving the game will automatically end the setup process. This goes without saying, but if you are aware of exploits which give you an unfair advantage, then do not use them! Game Format Nation Assignments Players will be assigned player numbers based on an alphabetical list of TG account names. Nations and their leaders will be assigned randomly. Difficulty Level The default difficulty level being used is Prince. This is one level higher than Noble. If you are a newer player to Civ 4 or Civ 4 MP and would like to start at the easier level then please make that clear in your signup. Players who have won a multiplayer game or play single player at Prince level or higher are asked to stay at the default. Settings: Map: Fractal Size: Large (unless we get more than 12 players in which case Huge will be used) Climate: Temperate Sea Level: Medium Era: Ancient Speed: Normal World Wrap: Cylindrical Resources: Standard Options: Advanced Start City Razing City Flipping From Culture City Flipping After Conquest No Barbarians Normal Religions Technology Trading No Technology Brokering No Permanent Alliances No Require Complete Kills No Vassal States No Tribal Villages Random Events Victory: Time Conquest Domination Cultural Space Race Diplomatic Multiplayer: Simultaneous Turns Take Over AI Turn Timer - 24 hours (approx. 28 hours of real time at game start) Advanced Start Base Points: 600 Sign Up The game will start on Saturday, March 29 at approximately 5:00 pm GMT (1:00 pm EST). You may sign up at any point before game start once this topic is unlocked on March 15. The server supports 18 players. If more than 18 people sign up, priority will be given to TG supporting members. Anyone not given a starting position is encouraged to be a substitute. Note that in the first game (A City Too Far), we had at least 3 people substitute who then took over the nation for the rest of the game! To reserve a spot, please reply to this topic with: Please acknowledge that you have read and understood the first message of this signup topic Civ4 Player Name: Difficulty Level: Noble or Prince (if Noble, please provide a brief description of your Civ4 experience) Time Zone: Participants The list will be updated as responses come in. Supporting members are listed in bold. 18 of 18 spots are filled. Bernout Snarlin AFsoccer Ashenhart XSChunkylover77 GrizzlyDuu Avnair Hoplosternum Brain Damage namliaM oyzar JMaltman Ebenezer amh52 Shaq Zora whiplash Twahn Levgree Reserves CingularDuality (sub) Silver_Pipe Provolution Last edited by Bernout; 03-30-2008 at 12:44 AM.

03-15-2008, 12:57 PM	#2 (permalink)
Bernout Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Colorado Springs, CO, USA Posts: 1,085	Re: PTBS BTS: The Gathering Storm - Signup Signup topic read and understood. Civ4 Player Name: Bernout Difficulty Level: Prince Time Zone: MDT (GMT - 6) __________________ \|TG-MD6\| TG Primer

03-15-2008, 12:58 PM	#3 (permalink)
Bernout Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Colorado Springs, CO, USA Posts: 1,085	Re: PTBS BTS: The Gathering Storm - Signup This message being posted for Snarlin since he just left on vacation this morning. Signup topic read and understood. Civ4 Player Name: Snarlin Difficulty Level: Prince Time Zone: CDT (GMT - 5) __________________ \|TG-MD6\| TG Primer

03-15-2008, 01:03 PM	#4 (permalink)
XSChunkylover77 Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 41	Re: PTBS BTS: The Gathering Storm - Signup Sign up topics read and understood Civ4 Name: XSChunkylover77 Difficlty level is Prince Time zone is EDT

03-15-2008, 01:23 PM	#5 (permalink)
AFsoccer Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Denver, CO Age: 39 Posts: 360	Re: PTBS BTS: The Gathering Storm - Signup * I have read and understood the first message of this sign-up topic. * Civ4 Player Name: AFsoccer * Difficulty Level: Prince * Time Zone: Mountain (GMT-6) Consider using Bhruic's unofficial 3.13 patch to fix some of the things that Firaxis' patch didn't, like mouse-over information. __________________ \|TG-6th\| AFsoccer

03-15-2008, 01:24 PM	#6 (permalink)
GrizzlyDuu Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 38	Re: PTBS BTS: The Gathering Storm - Signup Sign up topics read and understood Civ4 Name: GrizzlyDuu Difficlty level is Prince Time zone is GMT +1 I would also like to save a spot for Jmaltman. He will sign in later. JMaltman GWT -5 Difficulty - Prince Last edited by GrizzlyDuu; 03-15-2008 at 02:57 PM.

03-15-2008, 02:17 PM	#7 (permalink)
Avnair Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 4	Re: PTBS BTS: The Gathering Storm - Signup Name: Avnair Difficulty level: "Please don't hurt me".... uhhhh... Prince Time Zone: MDT... Daylight savings time screws up whatever thought I had of figuring out what that is relating to GMT.

03-15-2008, 02:35 PM	#8 (permalink)
Hoplosternum Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Romford, London, UK Age: 38 Posts: 35	Re: PTBS BTS: The Gathering Storm - Signup * I have read and understood the first message of this sign-up topic. * Civ4 Player Name: Hoplosternum * Difficulty Level: Prince * Time Zone: BST (GMT +1) I am not sure if the Bhuric patch affects anything except your own game experience - in which case it does not matter if you install it or not But for those of us in other MP games I would rather not have it insisted on. That is because if the above is wrong then it will cause version mismatches in other games. Which are a nuisance, sometimes banned (in case you have some sort of hack/cheat going on) and can cause stability issues if two people are in the game at the same time. So while I dare say its good I doubt its worth the hassle for most of us....

03-15-2008, 06:23 PM	#9 (permalink)
Brain Damage Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 1	Re: PTBS BTS: The Gathering Storm - Signup Hello 6MD & TG folks! I'm in. Name: BrainDamage Difficulty: Prince Time Zone: CST (GMT -6:00)

03-15-2008, 06:31 PM	#10 (permalink)
Ashenhart Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Jenks, OK Age: 40 Posts: 657	Re: PTBS BTS: The Gathering Storm - Signup * Signup topic read and understood. * Civ4 Player Name: TG-Ash * Difficulty Level: Noble (I have never played MP before) * Time Zone: CDT (GMT - 5) __________________ Ikariam.com (Alpha) - Ashenhart TGA-AshenCrystl 80:56\| Send Me Goods TGA-AshenMarble 80:57\| Send Me Goods TGA-AshenWine 79:55\| Send Me Goods TGA-AshenSulfur 79:56\| Send Me Goods BF2142, BF2, PoE2, CoD4, TF2 - \|TG-Irr\| TG-Ash WoW - Ashenhart 70 Warlock \| Trinitia 70 Paladin \| Duenna 61 Hunter \| Monalott 61 Warrior TG WoW Home Page \| TG Required Reading \| The Irregulars \| Irregulars Forum Last edited by Ashenhart; 03-15-2008 at 06:56 PM. Reason: copy paste snafu ;) Bernout

03-16-2008, 02:14 PM	#11 (permalink)
namliaM Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 18	Re: PTBS BTS: The Gathering Storm - Signup Signup topic read and understood. Civ4 Player Name: namliaM Difficulty Level: Prince Time Zone: MDT (GMT + 1)

03-17-2008, 11:09 AM	#12 (permalink)
oyzar Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 83	Re: PTBS BTS: The Gathering Storm - Signup Signup topic read, but i don't understand the part about reload if someone are "not happy" with their starting position. Does this mean you will create a new map? With everyone random again? or does it mean if someone misclicked or regretted something they clicked they can just roll it back? either way sounds like this can take several days even if everyone is online at the same time(which they won't be obviously...). Also it isn't actually clear how random civs will be handled. There should be made a list of who gets which civ so it is not first come, first serve.. Civ4 Player Name: oyzar Difficulty Level: Prince Time Zone: norway gmt+1 Other things i am curious about is what timezone is EDT, how can namliaM be in MDT but still be gmt+1?? and is GWT -5 suposed to mean GMT -5? Avnair is probably in same timezone as Bernout and not as namliaM though... Last edited by oyzar; 03-17-2008 at 12:15 PM.

03-20-2008, 10:41 AM	#14 (permalink)
Bernout Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Colorado Springs, CO, USA Posts: 1,085	Re: PTBS BTS: The Gathering Storm - Signup I modified the main signup message slightly today to take into account the Advanced Start discussions in the Format Discussion topic. We will not be doing restarts during the Advanced Start phase as originally planned. Bernout __________________ \|TG-MD6\| TG Primer

03-20-2008, 07:07 PM	#15 (permalink)
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