CS sucks already

GAZ · 10-23-2004, 11:54 AM

tk tk tk tk tk

need i say more the idiots r taking over already

cant a couple of us brits have admin rights to kick these idiots

a few of us were havin a damn good game too

**Wyzcrak** · 10-23-2004, 12:08 PM

My comment from the server-announcement thread:

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Originally Posted by Wyzcrak

I'm not officially CS administration here (it's still being built). Consider that as you read the following as well as anything else I write while I'm not officially CS administration here.

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Originally Posted by DeRanger

Seems to me the TG server could be really special again, all it takes is effort and inclination.

And TIME. This takes a LOT of time. A LOT OF TIME.

I'm not interested in CS, but PCS does interest me. It's why I'm putting the time and attention into this effort that I am. There's already a conversation underway among TG Staff to organize the server. It simply takes time.

Like... give us a month before you judge anything. I'm not talking about 72 hours here. In the meantime, if you want to be a part of this (making it happen, not ONLY enjoying it after it's been built), then bring your skill, bring your plans, and bring your PATIENCE, because THAT is what will help the server most as it becomes what we want it to again be.

I was the only admin on the CS server last night with 20 people. That's not a reasonable admin force for that number of players, which resulted, DeRanger, in your seeing an unreasonable representation of PCS. The admin force will grow, IN TIME (this hopefully closer to that 72 hour timeframe than to the month timeframe).

To tell the whole story, last night saw several VERY fine rounds, including both ancient TG regulars, contemporary TG regulars, and (dare I say) future TG regulars. Teamwork, planning, tactics around corners and through hallways... last second OMGWHATSGONNAHAPPEN moments... it was good stuff, and it was all within the bounds of the MOTD and the map's objectives. These rounds didn't dominate the evening, and they didn't happen when 20 players were on the server (with one admin), but they did happen and they will continue to happen.

Please be patient. I know it's (damn) hard. I don't know much about CS ( I suuuuck ), but I know something about building a respected teamplay server for an HL mod whose community is dominated by children and for which TG hosts a server with strict expectations. It can happen, but it takes time.

I appreciate the time you guys are taking to make the server happen. I really do. Thank you.

DeRanger · 10-23-2004, 12:23 PM

Thanks a lot Wyzcrak!

Sniper · 10-23-2004, 01:20 PM

Many one day i can help admin it with the TG state of mind (The way the game was MEANT to be played)

I need to get a job 1st though... probably in march or something. I gotta get HL2 first though :P

**CingularDuality** · 10-23-2004, 02:15 PM

EVERY TG member that knows them should help explain PCS rules to new players on our server. Every TG member knows that FF is on and that TKing is not allowed. This rule applies to any TG server. It's common sense (except for pubbie land...). Every member knows that respect and courtesy are required on our servers. Every member knows that obscene and offensive language isn't allowed.

The other major guideline to explain to others is that we don't play team deathmatch here. Each team in CS always has an objective, whether it's defending bombsites or protecting hostages, planting a bomb or saving hostages, escorting a VIP or escaping from a defended area... Working as a team to accomplish these is always the priority on our servers. Personal stats are NOT a priority. If you're a terrorist and you have to go down with the bomb to ensure it isn't defused, so be it. That's your objective.

DeRanger · 10-23-2004, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by CingularDuality

EVERY TG member that knows them should help explain PCS rules to new players on our server. Every TG member knows that FF is on and that TKing is not allowed. This rule applies to any TG server. It's common sense (except for pubbie land...). Every member knows that respect and courtesy are required on our servers. Every member knows that obscene and offensive language isn't allowed.

The other major guideline to explain to others is that we don't play team deathmatch here. Each team in CS always has an objective, whether it's defending bombsites or protecting hostages, planting a bomb or saving hostages, escorting a VIP or escaping from a defended area... Working as a team to accomplish these is always the priority on our servers. Personal stats are NOT a priority. If you're a terrorist and you have to go down with the bomb to ensure it isn't defused, so be it. That's your objective.

It'll be much easier to admin once the SDK is released and admin mod and AMX, etc. can be installed on a server. I think Wyzcrak is having trouble with rcon too but the games are frickin' great when the right group of people (regulars and newcomers) are on. I'm addicted all over again.

Sniper · 10-23-2004, 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CingularDuality

EVERY TG member that knows them should help explain PCS rules to new players on our server. Every TG member knows that FF is on and that TKing is not allowed. This rule applies to any TG server. It's common sense (except for pubbie land...). Every member knows that respect and courtesy are required on our servers. Every member knows that obscene and offensive language isn't allowed.

The other major guideline to explain to others is that we don't play team deathmatch here. Each team in CS always has an objective, whether it's defending bombsites or protecting hostages, planting a bomb or saving hostages, escorting a VIP or escaping from a defended area... Working as a team to accomplish these is always the priority on our servers. Personal stats are NOT a priority. If you're a terrorist and you have to go down with the bomb to ensure it isn't defused, so be it. That's your objective.

VERY well said!!!! I have always loved the TG CS rules, although im not quite used to them yet, so i did actedentally break the guarding part :P But i know that now, and it only took one reminder for me to listen. I love TG's style of play... i just wish everyone server was like that :\

**CingularDuality** · 10-23-2004, 04:38 PM

Well, I finally got to play today. We've definitely got a [b]lot[b] of work ahead of us to get PCS back up and rolling... The console and commands seem to be the same as for the original CS. Will AdminMod not work with CS:S? Sure would be nice to have cSays and tSays again...

I had problems with the voice comm as well... People said I was xmitting weak. Mic is fine in TS and using MS record utility. The in-game voicecomm is horrible. Seems to be worse than the original HL voicecomm. Anyone else having troubles or have suggestions?

I'm not terribly impressed with the new game engine. It sure looks nice, but they didn't really do anything to the game at all... The flashbangs are the most impressive change in the whole game!

DeRanger · 10-23-2004, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by CingularDuality

I had problems with the voice comm as well... People said I was xmitting weak. Anyone else having troubles or have suggestions?

I have the same problem, all I can do to remedy it is speak really loudly.

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Originally Posted by CingularDuality

I'm not terribly impressed with the new game engine. It sure looks nice, but they didn't really do anything to the game at all... The flashbangs are the most impressive change in the whole game!

Try shooting a dead body or spectating a few kills, the ragdoll physics is pretty damn nice. The overall feel of the game will take some getting used to.

**Wyzcrak** · 10-23-2004, 04:51 PM

I did see filing cabinets pushed over on cs_office today in order to block a rather important passageway. I would have agreed with your flashbang comment (damn they're awesome) until I saw that. Also, I've noticed that it's easier to use windows for disguise once they're "broken" but not shattered.

The voice codec SPEEX, which the NS HLDS server uses to sound awesome, is not yet available for SRCds.

I've only tracked AMXX, the admin mod used for NS. It has announced it will not be supporting SRCds. Instead, they're rebuilding a new mod engine for Source from the ground up (sourcemod.net).

DeRanger · 10-23-2004, 05:58 PM

As usual eternal comes with the booty, I mean swag!

**RandomGuy** · 10-23-2004, 06:01 PM

If I try to start up a listen server I see an option for "Kick idlers and TKers". Does anyone know if this works well and if its enabled on the TG server?

**Wyzcrak** · 10-23-2004, 06:23 PM

I found myself kicked last night after wandering around the house unexpectedly. I wondered if the Source server had an AFK kicker built into it....

10-23-2004, 11:54 AM	#1 (permalink)
GAZ Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 127	CS sucks already tk tk tk tk tk need i say more the idiots r taking over already cant a couple of us brits have admin rights to kick these idiots a few of us were havin a damn good game too

10-23-2004, 12:23 PM	#3 (permalink)
DeRanger Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 663	Re: CS sucks already Thanks a lot Wyzcrak!

10-23-2004, 01:20 PM	#4 (permalink)
Sniper Join Date: May 2003 Location: Memphis Age: 19 Posts: 1,724	Re: CS sucks already Many one day i can help admin it with the TG state of mind (The way the game was MEANT to be played) I need to get a job 1st though... probably in march or something. I gotta get HL2 first though :P __________________ New Server1 IP. Read the stickies!! This is how you check your STEAMID and register it.

10-23-2004, 02:15 PM	#5 (permalink)
CingularDuality Join Date: May 2003 Location: Dallas/Ft. Worth area of Texas, USA Age: 33 Posts: 16,806	Re: CS sucks already EVERY TG member that knows them should help explain PCS rules to new players on our server. Every TG member knows that FF is on and that TKing is not allowed. This rule applies to any TG server. It's common sense (except for pubbie land...). Every member knows that respect and courtesy are required on our servers. Every member knows that obscene and offensive language isn't allowed. The other major guideline to explain to others is that we don't play team deathmatch here. Each team in CS always has an objective, whether it's defending bombsites or protecting hostages, planting a bomb or saving hostages, escorting a VIP or escaping from a defended area... Working as a team to accomplish these is always the priority on our servers. Personal stats are NOT a priority. If you're a terrorist and you have to go down with the bomb to ensure it isn't defused, so be it. That's your objective. __________________ Become a supporting member! -- Shop at the Tactical Market! Take the world's smallest political quiz! "I was touched by His Noodly Appendage." TacticalGamer TX LAN/BBQ Veteran:

10-23-2004, 04:38 PM	#8 (permalink)
CingularDuality Join Date: May 2003 Location: Dallas/Ft. Worth area of Texas, USA Age: 33 Posts: 16,806	Re: CS sucks already Well, I finally got to play today. We've definitely got a [b]lot[b] of work ahead of us to get PCS back up and rolling... The console and commands seem to be the same as for the original CS. Will AdminMod not work with CS:S? Sure would be nice to have cSays and tSays again... I had problems with the voice comm as well... People said I was xmitting weak. Mic is fine in TS and using MS record utility. The in-game voicecomm is horrible. Seems to be worse than the original HL voicecomm. Anyone else having troubles or have suggestions? I'm not terribly impressed with the new game engine. It sure looks nice, but they didn't really do anything to the game at all... The flashbangs are the most impressive change in the whole game! __________________ Become a supporting member! -- Shop at the Tactical Market! Take the world's smallest political quiz! "I was touched by His Noodly Appendage." TacticalGamer TX LAN/BBQ Veteran:

10-23-2004, 04:51 PM	#10 (permalink)
Wyzcrak Join Date: May 2003 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 14,139	Re: CS sucks already I did see filing cabinets pushed over on cs_office today in order to block a rather important passageway. I would have agreed with your flashbang comment (damn they're awesome) until I saw that. Also, I've noticed that it's easier to use windows for disguise once they're "broken" but not shattered. The voice codec SPEEX, which the NS HLDS server uses to sound awesome, is not yet available for SRCds. I've only tracked AMXX, the admin mod used for NS. It has announced it will not be supporting SRCds. Instead, they're rebuilding a new mod engine for Source from the ground up (sourcemod.net). __________________ Steam Community? Add me. \| Join #tacticalgamer \| Search Results Legend \| New Posts Forum Filter \| Postbox Toggle \| Live Thread Review \| One Line Results \| Free Remote, Encrypted Backup Darkilla: In short, NS is pretty much really fast chess. With guns. Apophis: I haven't seen anyone say that SM's are better than non-SMs. Nordbomber: This is THE first server I've seen where either side can comeback from out of seemingly nowhere with the right teamwork. en4rcment: I have NEVER experienced the type of gameplay that I have found here. Nightly I am amazed at the personalities and gaming talent. Root: Welcome to TG. Feel free to punctuate your sentences correctly. Monkerz: Its gonna take all my skills to beat those boys off in the future.

10-23-2004, 05:58 PM	#11 (permalink)
DeRanger Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 663	Re: CS sucks already As usual eternal comes with the booty, I mean swag!

10-23-2004, 06:01 PM	#12 (permalink)
RandomGuy Join Date: May 2003 Location: K-W, Ont. Age: 27 Posts: 1,727	Re: CS sucks already If I try to start up a listen server I see an option for "Kick idlers and TKers". Does anyone know if this works well and if its enabled on the TG server?

10-23-2004, 06:23 PM	#13 (permalink)
Wyzcrak Join Date: May 2003 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 14,139	Re: CS sucks already I found myself kicked last night after wandering around the house unexpectedly. I wondered if the Source server had an AFK kicker built into it.... __________________ Steam Community? Add me. \| Join #tacticalgamer \| Search Results Legend \| New Posts Forum Filter \| Postbox Toggle \| Live Thread Review \| One Line Results \| Free Remote, Encrypted Backup Darkilla: In short, NS is pretty much really fast chess. With guns. Apophis: I haven't seen anyone say that SM's are better than non-SMs. Nordbomber: This is THE first server I've seen where either side can comeback from out of seemingly nowhere with the right teamwork. en4rcment: I have NEVER experienced the type of gameplay that I have found here. Nightly I am amazed at the personalities and gaming talent. Root: Welcome to TG. Feel free to punctuate your sentences correctly. Monkerz: Its gonna take all my skills to beat those boys off in the future.

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