Wyzcrak

So. Meat donuts are pretty much a thing of the past, give happenchances similar to MANY OTHER incredibly rare occurances that are reasonably omitted from the FAQ.

Should the meat donut reference be removed from the FAQ? Should the wording be modernized? Should it be made clear the Ts are more leniantly judged when using hostages as shields than are CTs?

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Pokerface

NOT EVERY STATEMENT MADE AGAINST THE CURRENT STATE OF PCS RULES IS A TREATISE ON TURNING TACTICALGAMER INTO A DEATHMATCH. NONE of the ones made thus far have even HINTED at that, and it's rather offensive to have you thinking so CONTINUOUSLY.

The ONLY arguments being presented are:
-PCS "guidelines" are useless without unilateral, uniform support from the admins, and should such a thing happen, the rules should be published.
-PCS "guidelines" hamstring teamplay by limiting tactics to a particular subset of actions.

Neither of those is an argument to ignore the map objectives, buy nothing but MGs, and run'n'gun up and down de_aztec.

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FOX9

I think so Wyz, like I said before. We could use a little update on the MOTD, maybe the sticky's too.




(arrow pointing upwards) nice apop!

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Apophis

We're working on an enhanced set of "guidelines" for PCS....

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Samurai

It appears that an update to the current FAQ/ruleset is in order, and it also appears that Apophis is on top of that. This is a good thing, and it is my opinion that we should continue to discuss the current rules and debate suggestions for the update, but in the end leave it to Apophis and the admins to make the final call on everything.

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CingularDuality

Those are not the only arguments being presented.

But if they were, I would agree with you on your second point. Team deathmatch can have an awesome amount of teamwork, but we don't want that here. We want objectives-based teamplay here. On your first point, I feel for you. We're working on updating the FAQ (K2 the Turtle just did a great edit of them). I don't think the updated guidelines will please you, though. They're not going to say: "No PCS player shall ever move more than 46 feet away from their defensive objective." The game is more dynamic than that, and as such requires subjective enforcement of our style of play. Look, regulars on our server aren't a problem. PCS players that want to play like we do will stick around and know what they have to do. Yes, we'll have limits pushed, but instead of getting up in arms about the fact that there's no rule that covers that particular situation, we'll have a discussion about it here. No big deal. The guidelines are for new people that come to TG trying to find out what PCS is all about. Without getting too specific, our FAQ conveys the spirit of PCS quite well. It will be obvious to someone that thinks camping is evil that this is NOT the server for them. And it will be obvious to someone that is sick of deathmatch and enjoys objectives-based teamplay that this IS the server for them... In general, I don't think we need "rules". We've had a few hard and fast rules: No two man boosts (one man boosts are OK). No grenade spamming (if you're defending someplace that is also a buy zone, you can't buy more than two grenades). No planting the bomb in places that it can't be defused by a single CT, etc...

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tekunogekai

*twitch*

PCS rules are, as you've presented them, blind to the game. If the game were played the way it was meant to be played, then the enormous number of hiding spots (that were obviously created to be such) wouldn't be illegal to use for any sense of the word "hiding". I mean honestly, are these illegal spots supposed to just be something to go AFK behind in PCS's view?


Have you seen teh light?

CingularDuality

Twitch all you want, but I don't care how the map designers intended their map to be used... We're playing a certain way, which does not include hiding/ambushing at the offensive team's spawn. Thankfully, we've got some good people designing maps specifically for PCS play. Will that get you to stop complaining about not being able to use hiding spots in places where there's nothing to defend?

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