45 Second Buy times - Page 2

EssenceOfJudas · 02-09-2005, 10:59 PM

20... ticks should do the trick.....s.....

Yer Mom · 02-09-2005, 11:37 PM

I agree on the 45 seconds... a tad too long... especially when it's just a few players in the servers, IE the AM or late night...

Waiting 10 seconds is too long for me.. it takes me less than a split second to buy all my gear. 5 years of the buttons will do that to ya.

Although, discussing for 10-30 seconds is definately not a bore, depends on the teams and the map really. I mean, you can't really do much more than say A or B on some maps... Especially dust... most that can be said is, "I'll go long, you go short.."

Lol...

But 20-30 seconds would be perfect for the above posted. It would discourage a lot of idiots from playing, as the wait time would get annoying to them.

-Mom

**CingularDuality** · 02-10-2005, 01:48 AM

Perhaps we should double it to twenty seconds and see how it works? We can always adjust it again if it's too much or not enough...

**Wyzcrak** · 02-10-2005, 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by CingularDuality

Perhaps we should double it to twenty seconds and see how it works? We can always adjust it again if it's too much or not enough...

Agreed. If there's no complaint between now and then, I'll do this tomorrow evening.

K2_the_Turtle · 02-10-2005, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Wyzcrak

Agreed. If there's no complaint between now and then, I'll do this tomorrow evening.

Thanks! I appreciate it!

Keith

FOX9 · 02-10-2005, 11:11 AM

Rooty and Yer Mom bring up some valid points, which I would have to agree with. However, 45 secs really is just too long. 20 secs=perfect IMHO Sometime or another we all lag a little behind and need that extra 2 secs to get our gear bought. I know I always forget to buy a kit, (trying to fix that) Instead of running out of spawn to turn around half way to bombsite to buy a kit wastes time, lost of it, this may/may not cost you and your team all of their lives and the objective. I know what your thinking, but I have done this b4. Seems to me like w/o a kit the thing never defuses, with a kit its probably just right, planting seems to quick though. Perhaps if we could adjust these things along with freeze time? BTW, the whole defusing thing was brought to my attention by Ghostintheshell. Good idea!

EssenceOfJudas · 02-10-2005, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by FOX9

Rooty and Yer Mom bring up some valid points, which I would have to agree with. However, 45 secs really is just too long. 20 secs=perfect IMHO Sometime or another we all lag a little behind and need that extra 2 secs to get our gear bought. I know I always forget to buy a kit, (trying to fix that) Instead of running out of spawn to turn around half way to bombsite to buy a kit wastes time, lost of it, this may/may not cost you and your team all of their lives and the objective. I know what your thinking, but I have done this b4. Seems to me like w/o a kit the thing never defuses, with a kit its probably just right, planting seems to quick though. Perhaps if we could adjust these things along with freeze time? BTW, the whole defusing thing was brought to my attention by Ghostintheshell. Good idea!

get a buy script... *DING!*
http://www.csbanana.com/ for starts... many others.. thats jus the firs tpage i remembered.. search it..

nickhastapee · 02-10-2005, 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wyzcrak

Agreed. If there's no complaint between now and then, I'll do this tomorrow evening.

sounds good

**Acid** · 11-09-2005, 02:06 PM

Hey, I just saw this thread under Similar Threads and though of another idea: is there any possible way of increasing the freeze time for the Attacking team and keep it normal for the defending team? That way, everyone could be in place when the round "officially" starts. If the defending team is supposed to be defending against something, they wern't dropped out of a helicopter at the same time and then someone said "go", the defending team would already be there and set up, ready to fend off the attack.

**RandomGuy** · 11-09-2005, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by black death5

Hey, I just saw this thread under Similar Threads and though of another idea: is there any possible way of increasing the freeze time for the Attacking team and keep it normal for the defending team? That way, everyone could be in place when the round "officially" starts. If the defending team is supposed to be defending against something, they wern't dropped out of a helicopter at the same time and then someone said "go", the defending team would already be there and set up, ready to fend off the attack.

That would be nice and allow us to play maps that weren't thoughtfully designed, but honestly I don't think it's possible.

.143 Beth© · 11-09-2005, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Wyzcrak

Everyone will have his own idea of what X should be, but I have no objection to raising the freeze time X seconds.

100=55+X
100-55=X
45=X

So, 45 seconds is perfect for S1. Last night I played Italy, and as soon as I could buy my wepons, people were running off to apts, mid, and LH. I had no time to control my team, and it was chaos. Everyone kept dying without a plan. I was angry, and hope to see the freeze time increased to 30 seconds if not 45, how could anyone plan tactics, offensivly or defensivly, if there is only 10 seconds to control a group of pubbies, or TGers that dont feel like planning.

Mateo · 11-09-2005, 02:51 PM

20 seconds of buy time is nothing.

Once they get the weapons, the buy time is over, and everyone is off to the races without a plan.

Root put the long buy in there to discourage this behavior, and it works. People have to sit still and at least LISTEN to the Bomber/Captain/Admin/PCS player that is calling the play.

One way I tell if someone is going to be a problem is if they have a problem with the time assigned to plan. 100% of the time, the person that says "45 sec.? WTF?" ends up with a kick/ban (80%), or removes themself from the server (20%). Either way, it works for me.

If you are a PCS player, you understand that it gives you more time to plan. And *gasp* a backup if things fall apart.

To my mind, PCS is not about the instant gratification of the kill, but the achieving of the objective. If you are planning how to achieve the objective, then what's the rush?

radicaldreamer · 11-09-2005, 03:39 PM

can't argue with that

i agree with the 45 seconds, sure it's long, but it does force some planning, or it gets rid of the non-PCS players for a moment, if at all

the last time i was on the server with the 45 second time, planning happened every round, so as far as i see it, the longer time is working

.143 Beth© · 11-09-2005, 04:07 PM

Not only did I like the 45 seconds of freeze time, I also liked the PW on s1. I found the overall gameplay better too.

**Acid** · 11-09-2005, 04:10 PM

To all of you coders out there, is there any possible way to make diffrent freeze times? A mod mabey or server side mod?

02-09-2005, 10:59 PM	#16 (permalink)
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02-09-2005, 11:37 PM	#17 (permalink)
Yer Mom Banned Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: TN Age: 21 Posts: 789	Re: 45 Second Buy times I agree on the 45 seconds... a tad too long... especially when it's just a few players in the servers, IE the AM or late night... Waiting 10 seconds is too long for me.. it takes me less than a split second to buy all my gear. 5 years of the buttons will do that to ya. Although, discussing for 10-30 seconds is definately not a bore, depends on the teams and the map really. I mean, you can't really do much more than say A or B on some maps... Especially dust... most that can be said is, "I'll go long, you go short.." Lol... But 20-30 seconds would be perfect for the above posted. It would discourage a lot of idiots from playing, as the wait time would get annoying to them. -Mom

02-10-2005, 01:48 AM	#18 (permalink)
CingularDuality Join Date: May 2003 Location: Dallas/Ft. Worth area of Texas, USA Age: 33 Posts: 16,516	Re: 45 Second Buy times Perhaps we should double it to twenty seconds and see how it works? We can always adjust it again if it's too much or not enough... __________________ Become a supporting member! -- Shop at the Tactical Market! Take the world's smallest political quiz! "I was touched by His Noodly Appendage." TacticalGamer TX LAN/BBQ Veteran:

02-10-2005, 11:11 AM	#21 (permalink)
FOX9 Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: South Florida Age: 22 Posts: 112	Re: 45 Second Buy times Rooty and Yer Mom bring up some valid points, which I would have to agree with. However, 45 secs really is just too long. 20 secs=perfect IMHO Sometime or another we all lag a little behind and need that extra 2 secs to get our gear bought. I know I always forget to buy a kit, (trying to fix that) Instead of running out of spawn to turn around half way to bombsite to buy a kit wastes time, lost of it, this may/may not cost you and your team all of their lives and the objective. I know what your thinking, but I have done this b4. Seems to me like w/o a kit the thing never defuses, with a kit its probably just right, planting seems to quick though. Perhaps if we could adjust these things along with freeze time? BTW, the whole defusing thing was brought to my attention by Ghostintheshell. Good idea! __________________ We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of the dream. Wandering by lone sea breakers, and sitting by desolate streams. World losers and world forsakers, for whom the pale moon gleams. Yet we are movers and the shakers of the world forever it seems.

11-09-2005, 02:06 PM	#24 (permalink)
Acid Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: MA Posts: 3,581	Re: 45 Second Buy times Hey, I just saw this thread under Similar Threads and though of another idea: is there any possible way of increasing the freeze time for the Attacking team and keep it normal for the defending team? That way, everyone could be in place when the round "officially" starts. If the defending team is supposed to be defending against something, they wern't dropped out of a helicopter at the same time and then someone said "go", the defending team would already be there and set up, ready to fend off the attack. __________________

11-09-2005, 02:51 PM	#27 (permalink)
Mateo Join Date: Aug 2004 Age: 37 Posts: 6,483	Re: 45 Second Buy times 20 seconds of buy time is nothing. Once they get the weapons, the buy time is over, and everyone is off to the races without a plan. Root put the long buy in there to discourage this behavior, and it works. People have to sit still and at least LISTEN to the Bomber/Captain/Admin/PCS player that is calling the play. One way I tell if someone is going to be a problem is if they have a problem with the time assigned to plan. 100% of the time, the person that says "45 sec.? WTF?" ends up with a kick/ban (80%), or removes themself from the server (20%). Either way, it works for me. If you are a PCS player, you understand that it gives you more time to plan. And gasp a backup if things fall apart. To my mind, PCS is not about the instant gratification of the kill, but the achieving of the objective. If you are planning how to achieve the objective, then what's the rush?

11-09-2005, 03:39 PM	#28 (permalink)
radicaldreamer Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Milton, Ontario, Canada Age: 20 Posts: 301	Re: 45 Second Buy times can't argue with that i agree with the 45 seconds, sure it's long, but it does force some planning, or it gets rid of the non-PCS players for a moment, if at all the last time i was on the server with the 45 second time, planning happened every round, so as far as i see it, the longer time is working __________________

11-09-2005, 04:07 PM	#29 (permalink)
.143 Beth© Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: New Orleans, LA Age: 21 Posts: 851	Re: 45 Second Buy times Not only did I like the 45 seconds of freeze time, I also liked the PW on s1. I found the overall gameplay better too. __________________

11-09-2005, 04:10 PM	#30 (permalink)
Acid Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: MA Posts: 3,581	Re: 45 Second Buy times To all of you coders out there, is there any possible way to make diffrent freeze times? A mod mabey or server side mod? __________________

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