Problems

**Meat_Drapes** · 02-20-2005, 01:38 PM

On certain maps I get these odd problems from time to time( actually everytime). Generally its when the map starts and then maybe for a few minutes, and then things settle down. My game gets very jerky. I check the console only to see:

Netchannel:failed reading message svc_updatestringtable from 67.19.132....... whatever server I am on. This message scrolls down the screen as if it were typed by a guy who can type 1000 words a minute. I will occassionally hit the 'enter' button to watch the space scroll by so I know when it stops. Once it stops, I resume playing.

Dust
Paransi
and a few other maps... cant seem to remember right now, but it is pretty specific to those only. I have done a fresh XP install to try and clean things up prior to the tourney. I even loaded it all onto a brand spankin new HDD. No.... I still crash , get booted, get the sound stutter and generally struggle to play smoothly. I have tried scripts that have been sent to me. Nothing. I have a legitimate copy of Half Life.
My system is not spectacular but not poor:

Athlon 3000+XP
MSI K7N2
1Gb Mushkin DDR 400
eVGA 6800 128mb vid ( all pipes/shaders unlocked)... either way its the same.
sound and ethernet.. on board. works just fine for me.

I have turned AA OFF. Settings are meager and enough to get the job done. I usually get about 70-100 FPS unless its Dust..then 15-50 depending on where I am on the map.
I am at a loss about this. I checked Google, and a few Germans have the same problem, but they cant figure it out. I dont want to make excuses when the tourney gets underway, but this is killing me.

Looking for possible answers.

Jeff
Meat Drapes

HardCandy · 02-20-2005, 01:58 PM

Are you using a router?
Does it happen on all servers?

If you are using a router, try bypassing it and see if that works.

**Meat_Drapes** · 02-20-2005, 03:27 PM

hmm, I do have a router and will try that... but why only on certain maps? Why not all?
Other servers? You mean there is more then just TG out there?? Why would anyone want to play elsewhere?

**CingularDuality** · 02-20-2005, 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meat_Drapes

hmm, I do have a router and will try that... but why only on certain maps? Why not all?

Probably a bad transmorgifier...

**Meat_Drapes** · 02-20-2005, 03:29 PM

Maybe if I put the router into a transducer loopback it will clear everything up.

hehe

**Meat_Drapes** · 02-20-2005, 03:32 PM

Move a chess piece Dave.... you are slow.

**Clardog** · 02-20-2005, 04:04 PM

Probably a bad transmorgifier...

LoL love Ol' Calvin and Hobbes

**CingularDuality** · 02-20-2005, 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clardog

Probably a bad transmorgifier...

LoL love Ol' Calvin and Hobbes

The Muffin Man · 02-20-2005, 04:47 PM

Are you using a software firewall along with your router? Antivirus software? I know that people who have been having stuttering problems during gameplay have had AVG (antivirus) and zonealarm running which is currently known to cause issues.

Just FYI to anyone who comes across this thread who has the stuttering issue, Kerio Personal Firewall is suppose to not cause any issues with Steam or CSS. As far as AVG, just disable during gameplay.

**Scooper** · 02-20-2005, 05:05 PM

I moved from ZoneAlarm to Sygate when I was playing with a ListenServer.
Seems to work well.

Don't forget the port forwarding thing.
Every now and then my local DHCP IP address changes and I have to adjust the forwarding accordingly. No biggie.

**CingularDuality** · 02-20-2005, 05:17 PM

While I'm playing CS, I have the following programs also running:
ZoneAlarm
Norton AV
MS AntiSpyware
Trillian (connected to MSN, AIM, ICQ and Yahoo)
Direct Connect (unless someone's actively downloading, in which case I shut it down)
SETI@home
Xfire

I'm also forwarding the following ports:
27000 to 27015 UDP
27030 to 27039 TCP
1200 UDP

I have no problem except for the occasionaly choke-fest, but that's server related... I rarely see my fps drop below a hundred...

You can check the compare URL in the 3dMark thread in the Hardware/Software Forum for my machine specs if you want...

**Meat_Drapes** · 02-20-2005, 05:32 PM

I have Norton Firewall, but disable it because it causes high latency. I have Norton Antivirus... and it stays on. I do not have a firewall in my router right now.
I will just have to deal with this when the tourney comes.
Dave, who is our third? We need to think about anyone at this point. I dont care if they are a vet or not. I dont want that to stop us.. and if we can get someone else involved... super.

Jeff
Meat Drapes
"Tastes like chicken"

linksys_sucks · 07-04-2005, 09:32 AM

I used to get the netchannel failed errors, too. CS would play fine, but when a new map loaded, I was able to play about a minute until the game would start freezing-up / lagging. If I looked at the console, it was being spammed with a ton of netchannel failed messages. That was when I had a Linksys router with the latest firmware.

I switched to a Motorola wireless router, and lo and behold, no more netchannel errors. My Counter-Strike: Source has played error-free ever since.

02-20-2005, 01:38 PM	#1 (permalink)
Meat_Drapes Join Date: May 2003 Location: Augusta GA Age: 40 Posts: 160	Problems On certain maps I get these odd problems from time to time( actually everytime). Generally its when the map starts and then maybe for a few minutes, and then things settle down. My game gets very jerky. I check the console only to see: Netchannel:failed reading message svc_updatestringtable from 67.19.132....... whatever server I am on. This message scrolls down the screen as if it were typed by a guy who can type 1000 words a minute. I will occassionally hit the 'enter' button to watch the space scroll by so I know when it stops. Once it stops, I resume playing. Dust Paransi and a few other maps... cant seem to remember right now, but it is pretty specific to those only. I have done a fresh XP install to try and clean things up prior to the tourney. I even loaded it all onto a brand spankin new HDD. No.... I still crash , get booted, get the sound stutter and generally struggle to play smoothly. I have tried scripts that have been sent to me. Nothing. I have a legitimate copy of Half Life. My system is not spectacular but not poor: Athlon 3000+XP MSI K7N2 1Gb Mushkin DDR 400 eVGA 6800 128mb vid ( all pipes/shaders unlocked)... either way its the same. sound and ethernet.. on board. works just fine for me. I have turned AA OFF. Settings are meager and enough to get the job done. I usually get about 70-100 FPS unless its Dust..then 15-50 depending on where I am on the map. I am at a loss about this. I checked Google, and a few Germans have the same problem, but they cant figure it out. I dont want to make excuses when the tourney gets underway, but this is killing me. Looking for possible answers. Jeff Meat Drapes

02-20-2005, 01:58 PM	#2 (permalink)
HardCandy Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: somewhere down there Posts: 27	Re: Problems Are you using a router? Does it happen on all servers? If you are using a router, try bypassing it and see if that works.

02-20-2005, 03:27 PM	#3 (permalink)
Meat_Drapes Join Date: May 2003 Location: Augusta GA Age: 40 Posts: 160	Re: Problems hmm, I do have a router and will try that... but why only on certain maps? Why not all? Other servers? You mean there is more then just TG out there?? Why would anyone want to play elsewhere?

02-20-2005, 03:29 PM	#5 (permalink)
Meat_Drapes Join Date: May 2003 Location: Augusta GA Age: 40 Posts: 160	Re: Problems Maybe if I put the router into a transducer loopback it will clear everything up. hehe

02-20-2005, 03:32 PM	#6 (permalink)
Meat_Drapes Join Date: May 2003 Location: Augusta GA Age: 40 Posts: 160	Re: Problems Move a chess piece Dave.... you are slow.

02-20-2005, 04:04 PM	#7 (permalink)
Clardog Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Asheville NC Posts: 23	Re: Problems Probably a bad transmorgifier... LoL love Ol' Calvin and Hobbes

02-20-2005, 04:47 PM	#9 (permalink)
The Muffin Man Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 107	Re: Problems Are you using a software firewall along with your router? Antivirus software? I know that people who have been having stuttering problems during gameplay have had AVG (antivirus) and zonealarm running which is currently known to cause issues. Just FYI to anyone who comes across this thread who has the stuttering issue, Kerio Personal Firewall is suppose to not cause any issues with Steam or CSS. As far as AVG, just disable during gameplay. __________________ The Muffin Man

02-20-2005, 05:05 PM	#10 (permalink)
Scooper Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Georgia, USA Age: 39 Posts: 602	Re: Problems I moved from ZoneAlarm to Sygate when I was playing with a ListenServer. Seems to work well. Don't forget the port forwarding thing. Every now and then my local DHCP IP address changes and I have to adjust the forwarding accordingly. No biggie. __________________ Chuck Norris can believe it's not butter

02-20-2005, 05:17 PM	#11 (permalink)
CingularDuality Join Date: May 2003 Location: Dallas/Ft. Worth area of Texas, USA Age: 33 Posts: 17,057	Re: Problems While I'm playing CS, I have the following programs also running: ZoneAlarm Norton AV MS AntiSpyware Trillian (connected to MSN, AIM, ICQ and Yahoo) Direct Connect (unless someone's actively downloading, in which case I shut it down) SETI@home Xfire I'm also forwarding the following ports: 27000 to 27015 UDP 27030 to 27039 TCP 1200 UDP I have no problem except for the occasionaly choke-fest, but that's server related... I rarely see my fps drop below a hundred... You can check the compare URL in the 3dMark thread in the Hardware/Software Forum for my machine specs if you want... __________________ Become a supporting member! -- Shop at the Tactical Market! Take the world's smallest political quiz! "I was touched by His Noodly Appendage." TacticalGamer TX LAN/BBQ Veteran:

02-20-2005, 05:32 PM	#12 (permalink)
Meat_Drapes Join Date: May 2003 Location: Augusta GA Age: 40 Posts: 160	Re: Problems I have Norton Firewall, but disable it because it causes high latency. I have Norton Antivirus... and it stays on. I do not have a firewall in my router right now. I will just have to deal with this when the tourney comes. Dave, who is our third? We need to think about anyone at this point. I dont care if they are a vet or not. I dont want that to stop us.. and if we can get someone else involved... super. Jeff Meat Drapes "Tastes like chicken"

07-04-2005, 09:32 AM	#13 (permalink)
linksys_sucks Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 1	change your router I used to get the netchannel failed errors, too. CS would play fine, but when a new map loaded, I was able to play about a minute until the game would start freezing-up / lagging. If I looked at the console, it was being spammed with a ton of netchannel failed messages. That was when I had a Linksys router with the latest firmware. I switched to a Motorola wireless router, and lo and behold, no more netchannel errors. My Counter-Strike: Source has played error-free ever since.

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