No Boundaries? Tell me More! - Page 4

Karkianman101 · 11-02-2005, 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TG_Mateo

I don't think you mean arguing.

Discussing an admin decision in the approriate forum is well within everyone's rights, and is an important step to learning, for both the admin and the player.

I've blown calls before, and been called on it, via PM. I've made good calls, and been asked why I made that call, again via PM. I'm a better admin for it. All that is healthy, constructive, and necessary.

Arguing with an admin is not.

You say tom-a-to, I say tom-ah-to

You say in depth discussion, I say arguing

Ben · 11-03-2005, 12:54 PM

I say "Why cant people just play the game with common sense??"

Mateo · 11-03-2005, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Ben

I say "Why cant people just play the game with common sense??"

Good question.

I'm thinking common sense is not so common these days.

**Wyzcrak** · 11-03-2005, 05:36 PM

If PCS were "common sense," PCS never would have been created.

Ben · 11-04-2005, 09:05 AM

I cannot say I agree Mr. Wyz. PCS is a system that really only has a few easily defined sensible rules to it. They are simple and easy to understand. It was created for those who dont realize what it might mean to follow an obvious objective.
It is made complicated by the few players who cannot seem to grasp it's simplicity, not on it's own virtue.

Mateo · 11-04-2005, 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben

I cannot say I agree Mr. Wyz. PCS is a system that really only has a few easily defined sensible rules to it. They are simple and easy to understand. It was created for those who dont realize what it might mean to follow an obvious objective.
It is made complicated by the few players who cannot seem to grasp it's simplicity, not on it's own virtue.

I'm thinking that PCS is so simple, it is impossible to know. Like the Tao. Let's a have a moment of TAO!

The Tao of PCS

(Adapted from Ch. 81 of the Tao Te Ching)

Sincere words are not fine; fine words are not sincere.
(You can talk PCS forever and still not know it).

Those who are skilled (in PCS) do not dispute (about it); those who dispute are not skilled in it.
(WORD!)

Those who know (PCS) are not extensively learned; the extensively learned do not know it.
(It does not require excessive study to know PCS)

The PCS Player does not accumulate (for himself).
(The PCS player does not pad his stats).

The more that he expends for others, the more does he possess of his own; the more that he gives to others, the more does he have himself.
(This is self explanatory to the PCS player, I think)

With all the sharpness (difficulties) of the Way of PCS, it injures not; with all the doing in the way of the PCS Player he does not strive.
(One does not strive to play PCS: one does, or does not.)

**Wyzcrak** · 11-04-2005, 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben

I cannot say I agree Mr. Wyz. PCS is a system that really only has a few easily defined sensible rules to it. They are simple and easy to understand. It was created for those who dont realize what it might mean to follow an obvious objective.
It is made complicated by the few players who cannot seem to grasp it's simplicity, not on it's own virtue.

You're arguing that PCS makes sense to you (which is irrelevant to my point), and that a majority of CS players understand and appreciate PCS, while a minority don't.

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Originally Posted by Wyzcrak

If PCS were "common sense," PCS never would have been created.

I'm arguing that a majority of CS players misunderstand and mock PCS, while a minority don't. If you disagree with that, I'm not sure how best to help you understand.

PCS wasn't created for those who don't realize what it might mean to follow an obvious objective. PCS was created for those who DO. My point is that such players, among the CS playerbase at large, are the EXCEPTION, not the rule, and that, if following the objective (a la "PCS") were the NORM instead of the EXCEPTION among CSS players as a whole, we'd all be playing on a different server today, as the "professional" would have been in CS from the beginning. thus negating the need for Apophis to create "PCS".

Ben · 11-04-2005, 10:31 AM

This should be Roots new super disguised name: Rootkit.

After Criticism, Sony Issues Fix for Hidden Rootkits (Yahoo Headlines today)

"Stealth Tactics"

A rootkit is a set of tools commonly used by hackers to circumvent antivirus software and control a computer system. Most rootkits are engineered so that common PC monitoring mechanisms cannot detect them. The rootkits are designed to tuck themselves in to the most basic level of the operating system and remain hidden from users.

Root · 11-04-2005, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Ben

This should be Roots new super disguised name: Rootkit.

After Criticism, Sony Issues Fix for Hidden Rootkits (Yahoo Headlines today)

"Stealth Tactics"

A rootkit is a set of tools commonly used by hackers to circumvent antivirus software and control a computer system. Most rootkits are engineered so that common PC monitoring mechanisms cannot detect them. The rootkits are designed to tuck themselves in to the most basic level of the operating system and remain hidden from users.

Wrong thread FTL. (I read that article elsewhere yesterday. Where have you been?).

Root

Mateo · 11-04-2005, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Root

Wrong thread FTL. (I read that article elsewhere yesterday. Where have you been?).

Root

You forgot to add: you've been ROOTED.

Root · 11-04-2005, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by TG_Mateo

You forgot to add: you've been ROOTED.

Just making you earn your position as my Prophet.

Root

**CingularDuality** · 11-04-2005, 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wyzcrak

If PCS were "common sense," PCS never would have been created.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Webster

Main Entry: common sense
Function: noun
1 : the unreflective opinions of ordinary people
2 : sound and prudent but often unsophisticated judgment

I disagree based on definition two, which is the more common definition, IMO.

**Wyzcrak** · 11-04-2005, 11:52 PM

It's used to mean things that the speaker "gets" and wonders why others don't. My point was that, if others "got" CS to begin with as PCS players always have, there would have been no cause for PCS' creation.

**CingularDuality** · 11-05-2005, 01:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wyzcrak

It's used to mean things that the speaker "gets" and wonders why others don't. My point was that, if others "got" CS to begin with as PCS players always have, there would have been no cause for PCS' creation.

Ah... And what an excellent point that is!

K2_the_Turtle · 11-05-2005, 02:23 AM

Wait, you mean...there aren't any...boundaries?????

Hello there! I sincerely apologies for being absent for so long without posting. Life seems to have gone, bitten me on the foot, and well, somehow this happened. See below...

--------------------------------------

We're Getting Married !!!

Keith Kurzendoerfer & Tracy Parys

Wedding: Approximately 1 year...

11-03-2005, 12:54 PM	#47 (permalink)
Ben Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Israel / Memphis Age: 31 Posts: 872	Re: No Boundaries? Tell me More! I say "Why cant people just play the game with common sense??" __________________ A battle is dynamic, i.e constantly changing and evolving. Follow the strategy in place but never be afraid to improvise if the situation calls for it. All I ask for is communication

11-03-2005, 05:36 PM	#49 (permalink)
Wyzcrak Join Date: May 2003 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 14,132	Re: No Boundaries? Tell me More! If PCS were "common sense," PCS never would have been created. __________________ Steam Community? Add me. \| Join #tacticalgamer \| Search Results Legend \| New Posts Forum Filter \| Postbox Toggle \| Live Thread Review \| One Line Results \| Free Remote, Encrypted Backup Darkilla: In short, NS is pretty much really fast chess. With guns. Apophis: I haven't seen anyone say that SM's are better than non-SMs. Nordbomber: This is THE first server I've seen where either side can comeback from out of seemingly nowhere with the right teamwork. en4rcment: I have NEVER experienced the type of gameplay that I have found here. Nightly I am amazed at the personalities and gaming talent. Root: Welcome to TG. Feel free to punctuate your sentences correctly. Monkerz: Its gonna take all my skills to beat those boys off in the future.

11-04-2005, 09:05 AM	#50 (permalink)
Ben Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Israel / Memphis Age: 31 Posts: 872	Re: No Boundaries? Tell me More! I cannot say I agree Mr. Wyz. PCS is a system that really only has a few easily defined sensible rules to it. They are simple and easy to understand. It was created for those who dont realize what it might mean to follow an obvious objective. It is made complicated by the few players who cannot seem to grasp it's simplicity, not on it's own virtue. __________________ A battle is dynamic, i.e constantly changing and evolving. Follow the strategy in place but never be afraid to improvise if the situation calls for it. All I ask for is communication

11-04-2005, 10:31 AM	#53 (permalink)
Ben Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Israel / Memphis Age: 31 Posts: 872	Re: No Boundaries? Tell me More! This should be Roots new super disguised name: Rootkit. After Criticism, Sony Issues Fix for Hidden Rootkits (Yahoo Headlines today) "Stealth Tactics" A rootkit is a set of tools commonly used by hackers to circumvent antivirus software and control a computer system. Most rootkits are engineered so that common PC monitoring mechanisms cannot detect them. The rootkits are designed to tuck themselves in to the most basic level of the operating system and remain hidden from users. __________________ A battle is dynamic, i.e constantly changing and evolving. Follow the strategy in place but never be afraid to improvise if the situation calls for it. All I ask for is communication

11-04-2005, 11:52 PM	#58 (permalink)
Wyzcrak Join Date: May 2003 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 14,132	Re: No Boundaries? Tell me More! It's used to mean things that the speaker "gets" and wonders why others don't. My point was that, if others "got" CS to begin with as PCS players always have, there would have been no cause for PCS' creation. __________________ Steam Community? Add me. \| Join #tacticalgamer \| Search Results Legend \| New Posts Forum Filter \| Postbox Toggle \| Live Thread Review \| One Line Results \| Free Remote, Encrypted Backup Darkilla: In short, NS is pretty much really fast chess. With guns. Apophis: I haven't seen anyone say that SM's are better than non-SMs. Nordbomber: This is THE first server I've seen where either side can comeback from out of seemingly nowhere with the right teamwork. en4rcment: I have NEVER experienced the type of gameplay that I have found here. Nightly I am amazed at the personalities and gaming talent. Root: Welcome to TG. Feel free to punctuate your sentences correctly. Monkerz: Its gonna take all my skills to beat those boys off in the future.

11-05-2005, 02:23 AM	#60 (permalink)
K2_the_Turtle Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 275	Re: No Boundaries? Tell me More! Wait, you mean...there aren't any...boundaries????? Hello there! I sincerely apologies for being absent for so long without posting. Life seems to have gone, bitten me on the foot, and well, somehow this happened. See below... -------------------------------------- We're Getting Married !!! Keith Kurzendoerfer & Tracy Parys Wedding: Approximately 1 year... __________________ It's a game. Keep it real. Keep it fun. -Keith

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