M4...to silence or not to silence

**Dirtboy** · 03-23-2006, 11:02 PM

This is a poll to see what you do with the M4 (silence or not). I was just curious to see what ppl do and what is the reason for it. Obviously its quite, but I ALWAYS put it on right after I buy it for the simple fact is that yo never know when you need it. What are your thoughts on this matter?

poe · 03-23-2006, 11:46 PM

100% situational.
Silencer for stealth, obviously.
No silencer when I need accuracy/strength, or to shoot a lot of bullets off real fast without a concern to the Opfor's knowing my location.
I tend to not use the silencer unless I know I need to be stealthy (like Snake). Unsilenced is my preference

(More like... Liquid or something).

Karkianman101 · 03-24-2006, 12:18 AM

I was under the impression that the only difference between silenced and unsilenced aside from noise was that silenced was actually more accurate. So better for picking off, worse for close quarters firefights.

SG · 03-24-2006, 12:31 AM

I completley prefer silenced. Always use the silencer, just seems more accurate,
and its always nice to try to be stealthy.

**CingularDuality** · 03-24-2006, 06:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karkianman101

I was under the impression that the only difference between silenced and unsilenced aside from noise was that silenced was actually more accurate. So better for picking off, worse for close quarters firefights.

This is what I've heard and it seems true to me...

**Dog** · 03-24-2006, 08:05 AM

I did some balistics tests ;-) w/ Section 8 about a year ago... silenced at that point produced a little less damage than unsilenced.... we went through a bunch of guns w/ torso , head and extremity shots......

**Gogeta** · 03-24-2006, 08:31 AM

I have also done alot of testing with all the guns in the game. Up against the wall from different distances to see patters. The silenced m4 definatly made a larger spread area after about the 3rd or 4th shot in a series of shots(under 8 shots or so) The unsilenced m4 had a tighter grouping by far with the same burst timing. I simply find the audible difference between the two helps me to be more patient with my timing whilst firing silenced the m4. It definatly slows the rate of fire down a little bit. Unsilenced fires faster and is much better when on the move then silenced. I learned how to use every gun in the game by running around an empty server shooting at marks on the wall and playing out real situations. Yes I had that much time lol :P

measley · 03-24-2006, 09:01 AM

The silencer also takes away muzzle flashes, which make it more difficult for your opponent to find you.

**Wyzcrak** · 03-24-2006, 11:03 AM

Silenced... because getting dropped without hearing a damn thing is just the coolest, and I'm proud to bring that service to my friends on the server.

radicaldreamer · 03-24-2006, 11:23 AM

i only use silenced when i'm the last 2 or 3 players left on my team

i'll always go unsilenced, because half the time i fire with it, it's meant to be a distraction

Root · 03-24-2006, 03:00 PM

As long as there's been an M4 in CS, there's been a debate as to whether or not the silencer has any effect on damage.

I switch to silencer during freeze time, and it stays on regardless. You can kill quickly and quietly with it, and that helps a fair bit towards completing the objective.

**TheFeniX** · 03-24-2006, 03:27 PM

I don't think I've ever used it unsilenced unless I just scavenged one and didn't have time to put the silencer on. I fire the gun in short controlled bursts anyways, so it's a non-issue.

poe · 03-24-2006, 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karkianman101

I was under the impression that the only difference between silenced and unsilenced aside from noise was that silenced was actually more accurate. So better for picking off, worse for close quarters firefights.

Why would they put in this feature, then? Silenced would be better in every aspect with no disadvantage, if that is true.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gogeta

I have also done alot of testing with all the guns in the game. Up against the wall from different distances to see patters. The silenced m4 definatly made a larger spread area after about the 3rd or 4th shot in a series of shots(under 8 shots or so) The unsilenced m4 had a tighter grouping by far with the same burst timing. I simply find the audible difference between the two helps me to be more patient with my timing whilst firing silenced the m4. It definatly slows the rate of fire down a little bit. Unsilenced fires faster and is much better when on the move then silenced. I learned how to use every gun in the game by running around an empty server shooting at marks on the wall and playing out real situations. Yes I had that much time lol :P

**Al_Capone** · 03-24-2006, 06:21 PM

Every time I buy the M4 I will all ways put the silencer on just because I dont like guns that make a lot of noise since they tend to atract a lot of people to your location. It is easier to shoot at someone with it and they dont know where it is coming from at first some times.

doorway 27 · 03-24-2006, 06:50 PM

I only use it silenced, I can't even remember what it sounds like with it off!!!

I like having my sound pretty loud and my gun not making noise helps me keep an ear to the ground as far as what's happening with everyone else.

Plus there is the added benefit of once you have the drop on someone you can pick them off with out giving up your position.

Nice avatar poe!

View Poll Results: Silence or Not
Silenced	48	73.85%
Regular	17	26.15%
Voters: 65. You may not vote on this poll

03-23-2006, 11:02 PM	#1 (permalink)
Dirtboy Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Las Vegas! Age: 24 Posts: 3,178	M4...to silence or not to silence This is a poll to see what you do with the M4 (silence or not). I was just curious to see what ppl do and what is the reason for it. Obviously its quite, but I ALWAYS put it on right after I buy it for the simple fact is that yo never know when you need it. What are your thoughts on this matter? __________________ \|TG-6th\| Dirtboy Need an Admin? \| Want to help TG? \| The 6th Devil's Brigade Jump on it!

03-23-2006, 11:46 PM	#2 (permalink)
poe Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Olympia, Washington (USA) Age: 21 Posts: 1,105	Re: M4...to silence or not to silence 100% situational. Silencer for stealth, obviously. No silencer when I need accuracy/strength, or to shoot a lot of bullets off real fast without a concern to the Opfor's knowing my location. I tend to not use the silencer unless I know I need to be stealthy (like Snake). Unsilenced is my preference (More like... Liquid or something). __________________ Official CS:S SOPs \| Official Natural Selection SOPs \| Official Dystopia SOPs \| CS:S Development Team \| Help Support TG \|

03-24-2006, 12:18 AM	#3 (permalink)
Karkianman101 Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: East Lansing Age: 20 Posts: 1,546	Re: M4...to silence or not to silence I was under the impression that the only difference between silenced and unsilenced aside from noise was that silenced was actually more accurate. So better for picking off, worse for close quarters firefights.

03-24-2006, 12:31 AM	#4 (permalink)
SG Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Minnesota Age: 19 Posts: 326	Re: M4...to silence or not to silence I completley prefer silenced. Always use the silencer, just seems more accurate, and its always nice to try to be stealthy.

03-24-2006, 08:05 AM	#6 (permalink)
Dog Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Connecticut Posts: 253	Re: M4...to silence or not to silence I did some balistics tests ;-) w/ Section 8 about a year ago... silenced at that point produced a little less damage than unsilenced.... we went through a bunch of guns w/ torso , head and extremity shots...... __________________

03-24-2006, 08:31 AM	#7 (permalink)
Gogeta Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Statesboro, GA Age: 31 Posts: 3,281	Re: M4...to silence or not to silence I have also done alot of testing with all the guns in the game. Up against the wall from different distances to see patters. The silenced m4 definatly made a larger spread area after about the 3rd or 4th shot in a series of shots(under 8 shots or so) The unsilenced m4 had a tighter grouping by far with the same burst timing. I simply find the audible difference between the two helps me to be more patient with my timing whilst firing silenced the m4. It definatly slows the rate of fire down a little bit. Unsilenced fires faster and is much better when on the move then silenced. I learned how to use every gun in the game by running around an empty server shooting at marks on the wall and playing out real situations. Yes I had that much time lol :P __________________ *\|TG-4th\| Gogeta*

03-24-2006, 09:01 AM	#8 (permalink)
measley Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Houston Age: 27 Posts: 120	Re: M4...to silence or not to silence The silencer also takes away muzzle flashes, which make it more difficult for your opponent to find you. __________________

03-24-2006, 11:03 AM	#9 (permalink)
Wyzcrak Join Date: May 2003 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 14,139	Re: M4...to silence or not to silence Silenced... because getting dropped without hearing a damn thing is just the coolest, and I'm proud to bring that service to my friends on the server. __________________ Steam Community? Add me. \| Join #tacticalgamer \| Search Results Legend \| New Posts Forum Filter \| Postbox Toggle \| Live Thread Review \| One Line Results \| Free Remote, Encrypted Backup Darkilla: In short, NS is pretty much really fast chess. With guns. Apophis: I haven't seen anyone say that SM's are better than non-SMs. Nordbomber: This is THE first server I've seen where either side can comeback from out of seemingly nowhere with the right teamwork. en4rcment: I have NEVER experienced the type of gameplay that I have found here. Nightly I am amazed at the personalities and gaming talent. Root: Welcome to TG. Feel free to punctuate your sentences correctly. Monkerz: Its gonna take all my skills to beat those boys off in the future.

03-24-2006, 11:23 AM	#10 (permalink)
radicaldreamer Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Milton, Ontario, Canada Age: 20 Posts: 301	Re: M4...to silence or not to silence i only use silenced when i'm the last 2 or 3 players left on my team i'll always go unsilenced, because half the time i fire with it, it's meant to be a distraction __________________

03-24-2006, 03:00 PM	#11 (permalink)
Root Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: South east england Posts: 8,839	Re: M4...to silence or not to silence As long as there's been an M4 in CS, there's been a debate as to whether or not the silencer has any effect on damage. I switch to silencer during freeze time, and it stays on regardless. You can kill quickly and quietly with it, and that helps a fair bit towards completing the objective. __________________ BFCL TF2 league admin

03-24-2006, 03:27 PM	#12 (permalink)
TheFeniX Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Houston, TX Age: 26 Posts: 4,473	Re: M4...to silence or not to silence I don't think I've ever used it unsilenced unless I just scavenged one and didn't have time to put the silencer on. I fire the gun in short controlled bursts anyways, so it's a non-issue. __________________ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - TheFeniX's Steam Profile TG's Team Fortress 2 Steam Group

03-24-2006, 06:21 PM	#14 (permalink)
Al_Capone Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Washington Posts: 88	Re: M4...to silence or not to silence Every time I buy the M4 I will all ways put the silencer on just because I dont like guns that make a lot of noise since they tend to atract a lot of people to your location. It is easier to shoot at someone with it and they dont know where it is coming from at first some times.

03-24-2006, 06:50 PM	#15 (permalink)
doorway 27 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Florida Age: 35 Posts: 468	Re: M4...to silence or not to silence I only use it silenced, I can't even remember what it sounds like with it off!!! I like having my sound pretty loud and my gun not making noise helps me keep an ear to the ground as far as what's happening with everyone else. Plus there is the added benefit of once you have the drop on someone you can pick them off with out giving up your position. Nice avatar poe!

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