Sniper Bob

Hmmmm.... I went around acouple of servers and because of dynamic pricing their money went up to 36k.... that pretty good lol...

What Is Schwa?

This isn't something you need TG for, there are tons of gun game servers out there that are a lot of fun!

And honestly, gun game servers are where I have made the most progress in skill. They force you to get good with every gun, and the benefits on normal style play servers is noticable.

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Shattered Soul

Yeah I saw a few servers with 50k as their max money.

And their start money was 10k lol.

TheBigC

So by making $50k servers is screws up the whole formula thing. Bah, this is such crap. This basically makes the concept invalid because no matter what a gun costs people will still buy it. -Hence, it will never stabalize......

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So there are two solutions

A) Hardcoding the money caps on DP servers

B) Making DP server specific

*me prays for the latter*
Maybe I should send Newell an email about that...
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Dynamic pricing to me is just a bad idea .. not sure what valve had in mind when they thought up this brain fart

What Is Schwa?

I beleive the idea was an attempt to determine the true value of the guns and gear. The goal being perfect balance.

Instead of thinking in terms of money, think in terms of buying power. At the begining of each round you are given an arbitrary number of units to spend on gear. Ideally, the gear's cost will perfectly reflect it's ability to damage your enemy in relation to your buying units.

It is assumed that by watching the players buying habits and adjusting the unit cost accordingly we will eventually achieve a stasis that reflects each weapon's ability in relation to it's cost.

For example, the desert eagle, in my oppinion, has become too expensive in relation to it's ability to do damage. If the community agrees, than the price will lower until the point that it DOES accurately reflect it's ability to do damage and people begin buying it again. At that point we have determined the true cost of the gun in relation to the arbitrary unit of buying power. As people use a larger variety of guns we will begin to see the true value the guns have in relationship to each other.

It is seriously dissapointing that the community cannot see the long term results of this experiment. We have an opportunity to perfectly balance our favorite FPS and are squandering it.

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Greflin

Kinda hard to put a value on guns when servers offering up data to the average allow you to buy any rifle, any handgun and a full array of other gear with the obscene amount of money they allow you to have. The desert eagle will never balance out, because people will have the money to spend on it. the prices will continue to go up, and so will the players bank. If they disabled the ability to have more than 16k hard coded allowances like that then this would in turn eventually work. But as it sits, it will not work.

What Is Schwa?

Well right, this is exactly why I was expressing my disapointment at the community. The players havn't embraced it and the people running the servers have done more harm by upping the cash.

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CingularDuality

That would be very cool.

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Vulcan

Valve should have expected this and allowed more option before releasing it. These guys need a slap up side the head.

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Rincewind

A lot of the servers that have the dynamic pricing on also start you out at each round with $16k. So people who are buying the weapons don't care how much they cost. I think this is why we're seeing the deagle rise so high in price.

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Pretty much every Valve/Steam implementation has taken the following steps:
1. Initial Release
2. Period of fluctuating reliability
3. Period of dormancy (removed or forgotten about)
4. Re-release/Major patch
5. Regular mini-patches/bug fixes
6. Overall reliability

Dynamic pricing is on 2. Lets wait 'till 4 to discuss implementing it.

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What Is Schwa?

I couldn't agree with you more. I suspect that the end result of dynamic pricing will be a game with weapon cost reflecting their abilities in-game perfectly. I applaud Valve at their innovation, and am willing to endure some wonky prices for a while.

-Aaron

Calvin

Rincewind's avatar makes me hawt.

That is all.

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