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I vouch for Darksoul using cummunication to our team throughout that match, and being the lone man at the church bell tower i was very glad for my updates and the stoppage of players sneaking up on me, through the sewers.

In other newz who has noticed me kicking arse in that srceen shot (places shades on).

[CNH]Rapture

I was also on during that round, Dunagan I think I killed you at ladder to sewers, based on his feedback.

I also agree on the "Intent" is the defining factor here. IF someone is pushing or rushing sewers without Communication it would be a bad idea.

I know I am new so my input may not be as valued but I offer it anyway.

Atomic Dog

I think intent is the issue here. There are good tactics, there are bad tactics. There are tactics that work, there are tactics that fail. At tacticalgamer we're about tactics of all sorts regardless of good or bad so long as they stay true to the spirit of the type of game we all enjoy playing here. If he was by the ladder and in communication with his team and wasn't running around splashing and fragmonkeying through the sewers then I don't see any real issue with it.

My 2.

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poe

There are a few sewer entrances on de_ignorance. Which sewer were they at? Staying still or running about (if the latter, which way)? How far into the match was it?

...it's like troubleshooting Windows. You need to know about a thousand different variables to make a remote call sometimes.

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Chewy

I'm so glad to see Poe alive!

On topic though, Gogeta mentioned last night that maybe it would be ok for cts to go from back sewers to the sewers by the double doors. I didn't say he made this a rule or in fact made clear this was ok, but he mentioned this out loud as a possibility. I happen to agree with him. I think for that short strech of sewers, CTs in most cases would be ok in that area.

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Gogeta

Again it boils down to intent and amount of communication. I feel its the same as going from the back sewers to the next ladder on militia.. its a good place to be to counter an attack, but not everyone needs to be crowded down there thats for sho.

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Chewy

Yes, excellent place for a counter attack!

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Quest Shady

I remember playing on this map when this occurred. From what I remember Dark did communicate his intentions and the tactic did work and he did surprise the T's. The problem came when he tried it a second or was it a third time and he died almost right away because they expected him there.

When I question if a player was off objective I first look to see who the player is...if he has been on the server for a while and what I consider a "regular" and I know they understand TG/PCS then I usually give that person the benefit of the doubt. I am not on his team and can not hear his communications or planning. I may get UPSET with myself because I got startled by something unexpected. I became lazy and comfortable because I was not looking and covering every direction. I might have been "surprised" by a different tactic that I did not expect which means it worked...but then again it wakes me up and next time I am ready and aware.

His tactic of surprise and reconnaissance worked once but then after that the T's were ready for him. After they kill him they can reset and plan...

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