Burying the bomb

**cookieMONSTER** · 05-08-2008, 04:59 PM

I'm speaking specifically about de_witness, but this applies to any map where it would be possible.

On witness, if you plant B there are 2 trashcans nearby that you can knock over on to the bomb. You've probably seen it where if something is on top of the bomb and you dont move it before defusing, your defusal will interupt about midway through. I've made it a habit to try and get these cans on top of the bomb after I plant, and have gotten the OK from a few admins who I asked to make sure they wouldnt swing the hammer at me.

Using a map object to make the bomb more difficult to defuse is ok, yes?

**Kulmar** · 05-08-2008, 06:29 PM

It is realistic in my opinion, and since the server strives for realism...

Covering up the bomb in real life is the same as in here, if you cannot see it , then you cannot defuse.

Sara · 05-08-2008, 06:32 PM

I think he means more in the line of like just dropping ur pistol on it so it blocks it.

**Kulmar** · 05-08-2008, 06:38 PM

He said trash cans.

Sara · 05-08-2008, 06:54 PM

I know but the lines of the question is about any object.

**Kulmar** · 05-08-2008, 07:38 PM

However, if anything is on top of a bomb realistically, you need to clear the zone where you defuse it.

**Gogeta** · 05-08-2008, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Kulmar

However, if anything is on top of a bomb realistically, you need to clear the zone where you defuse it.

True, but who is going to clear the area directly next to a bomb with a HE grenade irl.... ? We don't have actual hands in CS ya know

We can't just shuv stuff out of the way to defuse.. just my opinion on covering the bomb and exploiting the fact that the objects can interrupt the defuse(which is an engine exploit if i'm not mistaken)

**sparhawkxx** · 05-08-2008, 09:45 PM

I learned a long time ago if its blocking you nade it. Chairs blocking a doorway to hostages you have to nade it. I am with Gogeta but also would think its ok if we can block the doors to rescuing hostages. I don't really like Exploits either

In real life I guess you would move the items with your hands so the next best thing is a nade correct? All we have.

**Kulmar** · 05-08-2008, 10:29 PM

I just shoot it off.

**Plude220** · 05-08-2008, 11:08 PM

Thiers also another map that you can plant the bomb ontop of boxes and it falls into the boxes so you cant defuse I forget the name of it.

**cookieMONSTER** · 05-09-2008, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Sara

I think he means more in the line of like just dropping ur pistol on it so it blocks it.

No. I specifically said a map object.

**cookieMONSTER** · 05-09-2008, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by sparhawkxx

I learned a long time ago if its blocking you nade it. Chairs blocking a doorway to hostages you have to nade it. I am with Gogeta but also would think its ok if we can block the doors to rescuing hostages. I don't really like Exploits either

In real life I guess you would move the items with your hands so the next best thing is a nade correct? All we have.

You can shoot them off, too.

In HL2 you're actually able to pick things up (without the gravity gun). Is that something that's possible with CSS?

Sara · 05-10-2008, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by cookieMONSTER

You can shoot them off, too.

In HL2 you're actually able to pick things up (without the gravity gun). Is that something that's possible with CSS?

I don't think so.

**Kulmar** · 05-10-2008, 02:42 AM

I wouldn't mind if when we ran over something small and easily moved IRL, that it would be in the game... unlike it does now when it just pushes you back like its a wall.

**Sirusblk** · 05-10-2008, 03:36 AM

I too think it's an exploit of the game engine. Especially since you can start defusing and magically get interupted.

It shouldn't be too hard to unlock the ability to pick up items with E just like half life 2. They use the same engine and I know the same code is there. If that was possible with say a mod I think it could be appropriate to cover it with trash and whatnot

Until then though I view it as an exploit. Good question though

05-08-2008, 04:59 PM	#1 (permalink)
cookieMONSTER Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Detroit Age: 24 Posts: 220	Burying the bomb I'm speaking specifically about de_witness, but this applies to any map where it would be possible. On witness, if you plant B there are 2 trashcans nearby that you can knock over on to the bomb. You've probably seen it where if something is on top of the bomb and you dont move it before defusing, your defusal will interupt about midway through. I've made it a habit to try and get these cans on top of the bomb after I plant, and have gotten the OK from a few admins who I asked to make sure they wouldnt swing the hammer at me. Using a map object to make the bomb more difficult to defuse is ok, yes? __________________ ORGANBiTER \| $_COOKIE['monster'] \| UBiQ

05-08-2008, 06:29 PM	#2 (permalink)
Kulmar Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Boise , ID Posts: 832	Re: Burying the bomb It is realistic in my opinion, and since the server strives for realism... Covering up the bomb in real life is the same as in here, if you cannot see it , then you cannot defuse. __________________ The humblest citizen of all the land, when clad in the armor of a righteous cause, is stronger than all the hosts of error - William Jennings Bryan

05-08-2008, 06:32 PM	#3 (permalink)
Sara Join Date: May 2008 Location: New Jersey Posts: 153	Re: Burying the bomb I think he means more in the line of like just dropping ur pistol on it so it blocks it.

05-08-2008, 06:38 PM	#4 (permalink)
Kulmar Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Boise , ID Posts: 832	Re: Burying the bomb He said trash cans. __________________ The humblest citizen of all the land, when clad in the armor of a righteous cause, is stronger than all the hosts of error - William Jennings Bryan

05-08-2008, 06:54 PM	#5 (permalink)
Sara Join Date: May 2008 Location: New Jersey Posts: 153	Re: Burying the bomb I know but the lines of the question is about any object.

05-08-2008, 07:38 PM	#6 (permalink)
Kulmar Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Boise , ID Posts: 832	Re: Burying the bomb However, if anything is on top of a bomb realistically, you need to clear the zone where you defuse it. __________________ The humblest citizen of all the land, when clad in the armor of a righteous cause, is stronger than all the hosts of error - William Jennings Bryan

05-08-2008, 09:45 PM	#8 (permalink)
sparhawkxx Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Louisiana Posts: 2,097	Re: Burying the bomb I learned a long time ago if its blocking you nade it. Chairs blocking a doorway to hostages you have to nade it. I am with Gogeta but also would think its ok if we can block the doors to rescuing hostages. I don't really like Exploits either In real life I guess you would move the items with your hands so the next best thing is a nade correct? All we have. __________________ FUN FUN

05-08-2008, 10:29 PM	#9 (permalink)
Kulmar Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Boise , ID Posts: 832	Re: Burying the bomb I just shoot it off. __________________ The humblest citizen of all the land, when clad in the armor of a righteous cause, is stronger than all the hosts of error - William Jennings Bryan

05-08-2008, 11:08 PM	#10 (permalink)
Plude220 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Alabama (T Town Baby) Age: 22 Posts: 514	Re: Burying the bomb Thiers also another map that you can plant the bomb ontop of boxes and it falls into the boxes so you cant defuse I forget the name of it. __________________ Plude220 \|TG-303rd\|

05-10-2008, 02:42 AM	#14 (permalink)
Kulmar Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Boise , ID Posts: 832	Re: Burying the bomb I wouldn't mind if when we ran over something small and easily moved IRL, that it would be in the game... unlike it does now when it just pushes you back like its a wall. __________________ The humblest citizen of all the land, when clad in the armor of a righteous cause, is stronger than all the hosts of error - William Jennings Bryan

05-10-2008, 03:36 AM	#15 (permalink)
Sirusblk Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Orange County Age: 19 Posts: 1,083	Re: Burying the bomb I too think it's an exploit of the game engine. Especially since you can start defusing and magically get interupted. It shouldn't be too hard to unlock the ability to pick up items with E just like half life 2. They use the same engine and I know the same code is there. If that was possible with say a mod I think it could be appropriate to cover it with trash and whatnot Until then though I view it as an exploit. Good question though __________________

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