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  1. 12-12-2006 11:16 AM #31
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    Re: Knifing... again.

    I dub thee Necromancer Octor

    Now for the point of my first post in months, kniving has no place at TG barring one rare instance:

    Your main and secondary weapons are out of ammo, and there is no viable weapon on the ground, there is also nowhere to retreat to and nowhere to hide, and the enemy is reloading and within distance to attack.

    Your hypothetical doesn't for a few reasons:
    1) If you're behind the other team you're going to have to break into a run to catch up, and this will almost assuredly give away your position.

    2) It would be alot easier and safer to take cover (if possible), and line up a headshot on the guy in the back, working your way towards the guy in the front.

    F) Typically on TG servers a team advancing like this will start out at a run, then slow down and check their flank every so often. This blows your cover and you're left standing there with a knife in hand.

    Generally, if you're going to do something that will almost assuredly result in your death, try to make sure that you kill at least one enemy or seriously wound several so that your team doesn't have to work so hard to pick up the slack.
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  2. 12-12-2006 12:24 PM #32
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    Re: Knifing... again.

    Nice post, Uchi. Welcome back.
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  3. 12-12-2006 01:19 PM #33
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    Re: Knifing... again.

    Octorfunk, read the dates on the posts. You keep bumping old material up.

    It is generally bad forum behavior to bump old posts. The original contributers are often not around to defend their original arguments. If you have something to say, just create your own thread.

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  4. 12-12-2006 01:31 PM #34
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    Re: Knifing... again.

    Quote Originally Posted by What Is Schwa? View Post
    Octorfunk, read the dates on the posts. You keep bumping old material up.

    It is generally bad forum behavior to bump old posts. The original contributers are often not around to defend their original arguments. If you have something to say, just create your own thread.

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    I disagree. Sometimes it's well worth reading old posts. There's a reason why our forums go back so very far...

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  5. 12-12-2006 03:26 PM #35
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    Re: Knifing... again.

    Quote Originally Posted by What Is Schwa? View Post
    Octorfunk, read the dates on the posts. You keep bumping old material up.

    It is generally bad forum behavior to bump old posts. The original contributers are often not around to defend their original arguments. If you have something to say, just create your own thread.

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    Generally... I would think keeping discussion about a particular topic would be most beneficial in a thread that was already created for it...
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  6. 12-12-2006 07:54 PM #36
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    Re: Knifing... again.

    Amazing, I've never been a part of a message board that encouraged bumping old threads. I thought the general consensus was that after a certain amount of time it was in poor taste to ressurect old threads. The reasoning being that the original contributers may not be present to defend their ideas. Where I come from it's rude to bring people into a discussion when they aren't present.

    Reading the posts is obviously a good idea, but that has nothing to do with bumping old threads.

    Anyhow, it's been pointed out I am wrong.

    Like many aspects of TG, the rules here are different! I learn something new everyday.

    Octorfunk, and the rest of you, I owe you an apology. Sorry I spoke without knowing the actual protocol here.

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  7. 12-12-2006 09:16 PM #37
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    Re: Knifing... again.

    I think that it might be poor form to open a locked thread but not one open for debate still. And tactics will always be open for debate as the game changes and as players change to adjust to the game...changing...and Valve's "adjustment" of weapons etc...Here...hold this shovel...I must climb out of the hole I just dug.
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  8. 12-12-2006 10:07 PM #38
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    Re: Knifing... again.

    I think you guys should just start a new thread about forum etiquette rather than not talk about knifing in a knifing thread.

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  9. 12-15-2006 01:35 PM #39
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    Re: Knifing... again.

    No apology necessary, I don't really take anything personally that is said in a forum about video games.

    Even when I discuss rules/tactics in here, they're still rules and tactics about a video game, so I never take anything too seriously, otherwise it stops being fun.

    Thanks for the apology though.
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  10. 12-15-2006 11:23 PM #40
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    Re: Knifing... again.

    Quote Originally Posted by octorfunk View Post
    I don't really take anything personally that is said in a forum
    Good deal =)

    The debates we have here make us all better players, and hopefully a tighter knit group. I enjoy hearing other perpsectives and counterpoints. Anyhow, I don't think I did any sort of proper welcome, so here it is:

    Glad to have you at TG Octorfunk!

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  11. 12-18-2006 11:36 AM #41
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    Re: Knifing... again.

    For our hypothetical coming-up-behind-5-enemies situation, how bout lobbing a HE grenade towards the lead enemy, then pulling out whatever heavy weapon you have available (preferably Machine Gun) and opening up on the rear enemy while they all take cover from the grenade? Extra dis-orientation because they're effectively taking fire from 2 directions, and the extra damage from the grenade shortens the time you have to keep up fire. If you can take out 2-3 of them and notice the rest have reached cover, then its probably time to fall back to cover yourself and wait for backup, maintaining the flanking position.

    Ok...this doesn't have much to do with knifing...except that as Uchiha Obito said above, knifing probably isnt the most effective answer in this situation.
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  12. 12-18-2006 01:00 PM #42
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    Re: Knifing... again.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kerostasis View Post
    For our hypothetical coming-up-behind-5-enemies situation, how bout lobbing a HE grenade towards the lead enemy, then pulling out whatever heavy weapon you have available (preferably Machine Gun) and opening up on the rear enemy while they all take cover from the grenade?
    There's only one thing I can add (and I'm pretty sure Kero meant to include it) : before you use the HE, alert your team to location, strength, and if the bomb (or VIP) is present.
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  13. 12-18-2006 02:06 PM #43
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    Re: Knifing... again.

    Right, good addition. I would probably have remembered that if I played CS more. (I spend most of my time on the TGNS servers).
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  14. 12-18-2006 02:37 PM #44
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    Re: Knifing... again.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kerostasis View Post
    Right, good addition. I would probably have remembered that if I played CS more. (I spend most of my time on the TGNS servers).
    You were probably thinking double needed some res towers in a hurry. I understand that NS players can't do two things at once.
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  15. 01-01-2007 07:49 PM #45
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    Re: Knifing... again.

    Quote Originally Posted by Stealth Elite View Post

    I'm comfortable with all pistols that aren't Five-seveN,elites,and glocks because they are all the same.... point blank range it there only use
    I've found that the elites are the most accurate pistols at range, and you can spray and pray with them at close range. One of my favorite close combat loadouts is P-90, Elites, and a couple of flashes.
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