A map flaw or not?

**Dirtboy** · 12-28-2006, 12:56 AM

Ok here is the situation. On de_penstock, in the middle door on the T side there is a 1 inch crack right below the door. The problem is the T can fire on us with giving his exact position away. And if they plant at A and put the bomb right in front of the boxes facing the T middle door, it is almost impossible to defuse. Now I know that there are ways to combat this, for instance alot of smoke on both ends, send a squad to take him out, and so forth and so forth. I guess what I am trying to ask is that if that spot is a map flaw and shouldnt be exploited or was it there for that reason.

Greflin · 12-28-2006, 03:03 AM

That would seem like a flaw, if the door is closed you shouldn't be able to see under. Also I think being able to shoot some and be hidden so they can't see you even if they look is a really big bug.

**Vulcan** · 12-28-2006, 11:36 AM

why is it almost impossible to defuse on the rail side of the boxes?

The door just was set all the way to the ground and has a crack in it. It's not a bug from what i can tell about what your saying.

Root · 12-28-2006, 02:10 PM

Big shutter doors like that don't always close properly IRL. I'm fine with T's shooting under it, even if it's me they're usually shooting.

**Gogeta** · 12-28-2006, 02:34 PM

I have never been able to get any kind of substantial hits from under there... the view is really for recon only... not kills IMO.

**Dirtboy** · 12-28-2006, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Gogeta

I have never been able to get any kind of substantial hits from under there... the view is really for recon only... not kills IMO.

Yea right, last night Frost was pwning all of us...I am talking about headshot after headshot.

**Gogeta** · 12-28-2006, 02:49 PM

??? you cant even see heads from under there.... all I can see are feet running around. ahh maybe if you crouch and look under there maybe... but not standing.

**Dirtboy** · 12-28-2006, 04:43 PM

So I guess the consensus is that is legal...that is all I needed. Thanks guys

What Is Schwa? · 12-28-2006, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Gogeta

I have never been able to get any kind of substantial hits from under there... the view is really for recon only... not kills IMO.

I'm with you here. The view is so limited that you have to position yourself just right to get any shots off. I've played the hell out of penstock and have never seen anyone abusing this "bug"

-Aaron

**Vulcan** · 12-29-2006, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirtboy

So I guess the consensus is that is legal...that is all I needed. Thanks guys

I'm interested in hearing what's almost impossible with defusing the bomb on the rail side.

doorway 27 · 12-29-2006, 03:09 PM

smoke and open the door, right?

12-28-2006, 12:56 AM	#1 (permalink)
Dirtboy Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Some crap hole FOB in Iraq Age: 24 Posts: 3,221	A map flaw or not? Ok here is the situation. On de_penstock, in the middle door on the T side there is a 1 inch crack right below the door. The problem is the T can fire on us with giving his exact position away. And if they plant at A and put the bomb right in front of the boxes facing the T middle door, it is almost impossible to defuse. Now I know that there are ways to combat this, for instance alot of smoke on both ends, send a squad to take him out, and so forth and so forth. I guess what I am trying to ask is that if that spot is a map flaw and shouldnt be exploited or was it there for that reason. __________________ \|TG-6th\| Dirtboy Need an Admin? \| Want to help TG? \| The 6th Devil's Brigade

12-28-2006, 03:03 AM	#2 (permalink)
Greflin Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Wichita KS Age: 27 Posts: 234	Re: A map flaw or not? That would seem like a flaw, if the door is closed you shouldn't be able to see under. Also I think being able to shoot some and be hidden so they can't see you even if they look is a really big bug.

12-28-2006, 11:36 AM	#3 (permalink)
Vulcan Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Montreal Age: 30 Posts: 7,560	Re: A map flaw or not? why is it almost impossible to defuse on the rail side of the boxes? The door just was set all the way to the ground and has a crack in it. It's not a bug from what i can tell about what your saying. __________________ TG Primer - CSS SOP's - INS SOP's

12-28-2006, 02:10 PM	#4 (permalink)
Root Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: South east england Posts: 8,839	Re: A map flaw or not? Big shutter doors like that don't always close properly IRL. I'm fine with T's shooting under it, even if it's me they're usually shooting. __________________ BFCL TF2 league admin

12-28-2006, 02:34 PM	#5 (permalink)
Gogeta Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Statesboro, GA Age: 31 Posts: 3,496	Re: A map flaw or not? I have never been able to get any kind of substantial hits from under there... the view is really for recon only... not kills IMO. __________________ *\|TG-4th\| Gogeta*

12-28-2006, 02:49 PM	#7 (permalink)
Gogeta Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Statesboro, GA Age: 31 Posts: 3,496	Re: A map flaw or not? ??? you cant even see heads from under there.... all I can see are feet running around. ahh maybe if you crouch and look under there maybe... but not standing. __________________ *\|TG-4th\| Gogeta*

12-28-2006, 04:43 PM	#8 (permalink)
Dirtboy Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Some crap hole FOB in Iraq Age: 24 Posts: 3,221	Re: A map flaw or not? So I guess the consensus is that is legal...that is all I needed. Thanks guys __________________ \|TG-6th\| Dirtboy Need an Admin? \| Want to help TG? \| The 6th Devil's Brigade

12-29-2006, 03:09 PM	#11 (permalink)
doorway 27 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Florida Age: 35 Posts: 468	Re: A map flaw or not? smoke and open the door, right? __________________

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