Opinions - Single Player - Page 2

**Red** · 11-15-2007, 08:39 AM

So I finnaly re-downloaded the full game, and I woke up early to play a few hours before work.

This is my first impression on the full version. Warning this is a long post so get a cup of coffe if you want to read it all.

Impression stays the same for me this is my game of the year hands down. The whole package is just at another level. There is such an attention to details that make it almost real and beyond any other game currently out there. For example today after countless re-loading at a check point, I was doing the same thing as last time, sneaking up on one Korean and this time he started peeing so it was not scripted. Another example the propellers on the boats are now turning, might be a small thing but thats whats great about Crysis. Then add the small sounds and all the un-necessary details that enhances immersion and gameplay.

Delta difficulty is harder than in the Demo. If you make a misstake you are practically dead, it feels very realistic. This is perfect for me as I like to think about my tactics and slowly approach things and if I try to crazy tactics I get killed very quickly.

The harder delta difficulty resulted a much longer first level. The estimate 10 Hours to finish the single player can not be on Delta difficulty, not at my current speed.

The AI still has one main problem sometimes you can kill a enemy close to another enemy and he does not react. But when they react which they in my experience mostly do the AI are one of the best AI I have seen in a game, flanking using grenades, calling for reinforcement etc. Crysis does not have to use scripting and unlimted spawns to make it hard (hint COD4) which is still a fun game by the way, but in my opionion should not be compared as they have very diffrent approaches on how to engage the player.

Performance wise the full game runs a little better than the Demo. I run it at 1280 / 800 (This resolution scales very good to my 1920*1200 monitor). I have 8800 GT(at 700Mhz), the first level runs fine in DX10 mode keeping everything on very high except shadows and post processing which are both on High.

I also use 2x AA. I might need to turn it down later in the game but up to now it plays smooth.

If I try running on 1920*1200 I have to turn down things quite a bit. I think a card with more memory and memory bandwitdh will do better at higher resoultions but the graphics is still beyond great at 1280/800. If there is any game worth going SLI/Crossfire this is the game. And with great cards both from ATI and Nvidia now around 200$ its actually not to expensive to get a SLI/Crossfire setup.

Overall a game any person that calls them self a PC-Gamer should have on the top of their list to buy, even if they dont have the latest hardware. Its not perfect but comparing to everything else that came before it, its just close to a masterpiece in current graphical engineering and the open sandbox gameplay feels like a breath of fresh air into a genre which mostly have one path/option with scripted action, and for me feels much more mentally rewarding.

The high hardware requirements might be a turn off for many, but if you think how much detail is rendered in every screen its just amazing that we dont have to get close to a supercomputer to run Crysis. If you compare it to other next gen game you have to factor in that the Crysis levels are huge with a lot of details and then add higher resolution textures to that mix and its no wonder its a hardware hog. In my opionion these details and scale is what seperates the good game from the great and puts Crysis in its own division and if you remove a lot of these details to get better performance it would not make it Crysis.

Other current next-gen games should also take note on all the options you have on graphics to improve performance and enable scaling for both newer and older cards. Recent other AAA titles on PC seem to have gone backwards in this department.

**Gillespie** · 11-15-2007, 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyLude

The high power rifle can give you an instant kill with a body hit, while the standard rifle needs a head shot. That, and faster bullets/less bullet drop is the only difference I can see. It's good for taking out the boat gunners. With the standard rifle you need to lead a moving target alot at distance.

Tactical attachment is the sleep bullet. I find it pretty useless, but I guess you can try to get through the entire game just using the tactical attachment on soldiers. That would be a challenge.

I found it useful in a few instances. For example, in the first "level" there's a secondary objective of sneaking into a small NK outpost and stealing some information. I cloaked my way under the command trailer, but a few guards were milling about the entrance, so I needled them all.

Cloaked again, snuck into the trailer, got the information, cloaked out, and sneaked my way back into the water without anyone seeing me.

**Red** · 11-15-2007, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Zoopy_T

You can swim in Crysis. You can swim forever cause you don't have an oxygen meter due to your suit. My favorite thing to do is swim to the gun boat, jump into it and kill the gunner and driver and take the boat GTA style. Plus your speed ability works in water to so you can swim faster than the boat.

The tactical attachment is a needle that stuns enemies. They eventually get up after you stun them though.

Atleast on delta difficulty you will run out of oxygen. I realised that the hard way.

**Anospa** · 11-15-2007, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by RedBane

Atleast on delta difficulty you will run out of oxygen. I realised that the hard way.

Really? How long? I've been under for about 40 seconds or so, and no issues. I'm guessing it starts affecting you after two mins?

Zoopy_T · 11-15-2007, 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedBane

Atleast on delta difficulty you will run out of oxygen. I realised that the hard way.

I was doing this on Delta difficulty and was under water for quite a long time.

DirtyLude · 11-15-2007, 09:57 AM

It takes a while, but yes, you do run out of air

**TheFatKidDeath** · 11-15-2007, 11:09 AM

Nice write up Red. I just bought a retail copy at Best Buy as my luck lately with digitial downloads has not been that great

(COD4, cough) and wanted to make sure nothing interferes with me playing

I'll load her up on Friday and have nine vacation days of gaming bliss.

Playing the demo I'm surprised at how well the game runs on my PC and if the regular game gets better performance than the demo all the better. I'm uncertain if I'm going to start the game on Delta as it seems too hard for my skill. Perhaps I'll tackle it after I finish on the setting below. I like the fact that Korean is spoke by the Koreans in Delta as it's that much more immersive. Hopefully, they will patch it sometime in the future where that language option is in the setting below Delta.

I think this is a game we will be playing this game years from now as from what I've read there is not really a PC on the market that can handle everything on maximum settings without melting. Plus when I upgrade it will be like playing a new game!

**Anospa** · 11-15-2007, 12:40 PM

There are a ton of settings you can tweak, and one changes the spoken language of the Koreans, so you can have them speaking Korean on any difficulty level if you'd like.

**Gillespie** · 11-15-2007, 12:45 PM

Another tranq dart trick: if there's deep water nearby, lure soldiers out into the surf and tranq them. They'll collapse and drown.

**Gillespie** · 11-15-2007, 12:46 PM

I think my favorite moment thus far was grabbing an enemy soldier, activating enhanced strength, and then hurling him through a shack, demolishing it in the process.

**stickyjeans69** · 11-15-2007, 12:56 PM

hehe thats always fun. My favourite way of killing is grabbing aliens by the tentacles and shooting them in the face

**TheFatKidDeath** · 11-15-2007, 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anospa

There are a ton of settings you can tweak, and one changes the spoken language of the Koreans, so you can have them speaking Korean on any difficulty level if you'd like.

Thanks, good to know. From one of the reviews I read they were hoping this would be changed in a patch. I think I'll play with the Korean on.

**Anospa** · 11-15-2007, 01:03 PM

Actually, here: http://www.tweakguides.com/Crysis_1.html He's listed everything and is usually pretty complete and thorough with descriptions.

**peardog** · 11-15-2007, 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anospa

Actually, here: http://www.tweakguides.com/Crysis_1.html He's listed everything and is usually pretty complete and thorough with descriptions.

Nice Catch... !

nuckj · 11-15-2007, 09:40 PM

Just started playing single player today. Wow. The MP Demo did not do this game any justice whatsoever! I may not even touch the multiplayer until I play through the game. Nothing beats grabbing an enemy soldier and carrying him around until finally slamming him into another enemy soldier killing them both. Evil.

11-15-2007, 08:39 AM	#16 (permalink)
Red Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Chicago Age: 34 Posts: 819	Re: Opinions - Single Player So I finnaly re-downloaded the full game, and I woke up early to play a few hours before work. This is my first impression on the full version. Warning this is a long post so get a cup of coffe if you want to read it all. Impression stays the same for me this is my game of the year hands down. The whole package is just at another level. There is such an attention to details that make it almost real and beyond any other game currently out there. For example today after countless re-loading at a check point, I was doing the same thing as last time, sneaking up on one Korean and this time he started peeing so it was not scripted. Another example the propellers on the boats are now turning, might be a small thing but thats whats great about Crysis. Then add the small sounds and all the un-necessary details that enhances immersion and gameplay. Delta difficulty is harder than in the Demo. If you make a misstake you are practically dead, it feels very realistic. This is perfect for me as I like to think about my tactics and slowly approach things and if I try to crazy tactics I get killed very quickly. The harder delta difficulty resulted a much longer first level. The estimate 10 Hours to finish the single player can not be on Delta difficulty, not at my current speed. The AI still has one main problem sometimes you can kill a enemy close to another enemy and he does not react. But when they react which they in my experience mostly do the AI are one of the best AI I have seen in a game, flanking using grenades, calling for reinforcement etc. Crysis does not have to use scripting and unlimted spawns to make it hard (hint COD4) which is still a fun game by the way, but in my opionion should not be compared as they have very diffrent approaches on how to engage the player. Performance wise the full game runs a little better than the Demo. I run it at 1280 / 800 (This resolution scales very good to my 19201200 monitor). I have 8800 GT(at 700Mhz), the first level runs fine in DX10 mode keeping everything on very high except shadows and post processing which are both on High. I also use 2x AA. I might need to turn it down later in the game but up to now it plays smooth. If I try running on 19201200 I have to turn down things quite a bit. I think a card with more memory and memory bandwitdh will do better at higher resoultions but the graphics is still beyond great at 1280/800. If there is any game worth going SLI/Crossfire this is the game. And with great cards both from ATI and Nvidia now around 200$ its actually not to expensive to get a SLI/Crossfire setup. Overall a game any person that calls them self a PC-Gamer should have on the top of their list to buy, even if they dont have the latest hardware. Its not perfect but comparing to everything else that came before it, its just close to a masterpiece in current graphical engineering and the open sandbox gameplay feels like a breath of fresh air into a genre which mostly have one path/option with scripted action, and for me feels much more mentally rewarding. The high hardware requirements might be a turn off for many, but if you think how much detail is rendered in every screen its just amazing that we dont have to get close to a supercomputer to run Crysis. If you compare it to other next gen game you have to factor in that the Crysis levels are huge with a lot of details and then add higher resolution textures to that mix and its no wonder its a hardware hog. In my opionion these details and scale is what seperates the good game from the great and puts Crysis in its own division and if you remove a lot of these details to get better performance it would not make it Crysis. Other current next-gen games should also take note on all the options you have on graphics to improve performance and enable scaling for both newer and older cards. Recent other AAA titles on PC seem to have gone backwards in this department. Last edited by Red; 11-15-2007 at 09:11 AM.

11-15-2007, 09:57 AM	#21 (permalink)
DirtyLude Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 715	Re: Opinions - Single Player It takes a while, but yes, you do run out of air __________________ The Dirty

11-15-2007, 11:09 AM	#22 (permalink)
TheFatKidDeath Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Santa Monica, CA Age: 39 Posts: 2,622	Re: Opinions - Single Player Nice write up Red. I just bought a retail copy at Best Buy as my luck lately with digitial downloads has not been that great (COD4, cough) and wanted to make sure nothing interferes with me playing I'll load her up on Friday and have nine vacation days of gaming bliss. Playing the demo I'm surprised at how well the game runs on my PC and if the regular game gets better performance than the demo all the better. I'm uncertain if I'm going to start the game on Delta as it seems too hard for my skill. Perhaps I'll tackle it after I finish on the setting below. I like the fact that Korean is spoke by the Koreans in Delta as it's that much more immersive. Hopefully, they will patch it sometime in the future where that language option is in the setting below Delta. I think this is a game we will be playing this game years from now as from what I've read there is not really a PC on the market that can handle everything on maximum settings without melting. Plus when I upgrade it will be like playing a new game! __________________ \|TG-9th\| TheFatKidDeath "Born to Party, Forced to Work." http://www.theonion.com/content/node/55640 - Check me out on The Onion http://www.theonion.com/content/vide...ssfully_avoids - I'm on the local news!

11-15-2007, 12:40 PM	#23 (permalink)
Anospa Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Northeastern University (Boston) Age: 21 Posts: 3,653	Re: Opinions - Single Player There are a ton of settings you can tweak, and one changes the spoken language of the Koreans, so you can have them speaking Korean on any difficulty level if you'd like. __________________ "Brittle?! Dude you just took a localized tactical warhead to the face." -Eroak

11-15-2007, 12:45 PM	#24 (permalink)
Gillespie Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Colorado Springs, CO Posts: 1,052	Re: Opinions - Single Player Another tranq dart trick: if there's deep water nearby, lure soldiers out into the surf and tranq them. They'll collapse and drown. __________________ <ArmA Information/SOPs> <ArmA Admin Team> <TG Req. Reading>

11-15-2007, 12:46 PM	#25 (permalink)
Gillespie Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Colorado Springs, CO Posts: 1,052	Re: Opinions - Single Player I think my favorite moment thus far was grabbing an enemy soldier, activating enhanced strength, and then hurling him through a shack, demolishing it in the process. __________________ <ArmA Information/SOPs> <ArmA Admin Team> <TG Req. Reading>

11-15-2007, 12:56 PM	#26 (permalink)
stickyjeans69 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: California Posts: 682	Re: Opinions - Single Player hehe thats always fun. My favourite way of killing is grabbing aliens by the tentacles and shooting them in the face __________________

11-15-2007, 01:03 PM	#28 (permalink)
Anospa Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Northeastern University (Boston) Age: 21 Posts: 3,653	Re: Opinions - Single Player Actually, here: http://www.tweakguides.com/Crysis_1.html He's listed everything and is usually pretty complete and thorough with descriptions. __________________ "Brittle?! Dude you just took a localized tactical warhead to the face." -Eroak

11-15-2007, 09:40 PM	#30 (permalink)
nuckj Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Charlotte, NC Age: 29 Posts: 426	Re: Opinions - Single Player Just started playing single player today. Wow. The MP Demo did not do this game any justice whatsoever! I may not even touch the multiplayer until I play through the game. Nothing beats grabbing an enemy soldier and carrying him around until finally slamming him into another enemy soldier killing them both. Evil. __________________ 9th MID \| 2142 Profile \| New to TG?

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