Re: Realism Mod 1.2 Installed

**RandomGuy** · 02-14-2006, 01:31 PM

Originally Posted by Zephyr

Overall another big problem is that there is no longer any difference between allied and axis weaponry. Allied rifles were preferable for some people because they reloaded faster and had a larger clip, despite not always delivering a lethal shot. Their axis counterparts had, of course, smaller clip size and longer reload time in exchange for lethality. This whole strategic difference is now gone thanks to the realism mod. Axis riflemen are going to be grabbing the allied rifle off the ground as fast as possible because it is not only just as lethal as theirs, but faster and with a larger clip.

Before the change the K98 was not always one hit kill. Now I think it is. The M1 is still not a one hit kill all the time, just more of the time. The K98 also still has a better accuracy which means that there is a range at which the M1 will have to go ironsights where the K98 will not. There is still a tradeoff between the two rifles. I think you will find this to be true if you play around and experiment with it more.

Originally Posted by Zephyr

Their main enemies, the sniper and bazooka, are in almost twice as much danger exposing themselves to get a shot, even against the 30. cal, as only one bullet will take them down now insead of a reliable two or three.

The health has not been made "two or three" times less.

You are saying MGs are helped by the changes. Toshido is saying MGs are hurt by the changes. As long as people are complaining on both sides it sounds good

**Zephyr** · 02-14-2006, 04:22 PM

[QUOTE=RandomGuy]Before the change the K98 was not always one hit kill. Now I think it is. The M1 is still not a one hit kill all the time, just more of the time. The K98 also still has a better accuracy which means that there is a range at which the M1 will have to go ironsights where the K98 will not. There is still a tradeoff between the two rifles. I think you will find this to be true if you play around and experiment with it more.

Originally Posted by RandomGuy

The health has not been made "two or three" times less.

You are saying MGs are helped by the changes. Toshido is saying MGs are hurt by the changes. As long as people are complaining on both sides it sounds good

The health is not "two or three" times less, the chance of a lethal hit is "two or three" times greater than it was before because of the chance of a bullet hitting a limb versus the chest or head. While Toshido may be having the opposite experience as I am, that is due to two factors. A) he clearly has a slow trigger finger during his tests of the mod and B) he still points out that SMG's are taking down machine gun emplacements, which is absolutely wrong in terms of balance. The fact that the SMG has an initial bullet accuracy that is very high and that health is very low causes a machine gun emplacement to fall to a SMG. Please explain to me how this is more realistic. Also, I would like the realism mod be put to a vote. I don't feel that the server is ready for a mod yet and would like to see, by numbers, who agrees and disagrees. The least we can do is be democratic.

-Zephyr

**RandomGuy** · 02-14-2006, 06:27 PM

Originally Posted by Zephyr

The fact that the SMG has an initial bullet accuracy that is very high and that health is very low causes a machine gun emplacement to fall to a SMG.

I believe you are mistaken about the initial bullet accuracy. It works totally different from counterstrike. Also recall that a SMG could always one-shot anyone (100 damage) with a lucky headshot. When firing at an emplaced MG, usually only the head is visible.

**Pfhor** · 02-14-2006, 07:55 PM

I don't mind the blackout addition. In fact, I love it.

The health, however, has a dramatic negative impact on the DOD gameplay. It is absolutely not necessary at all. DOD is, at its core, a realistic game that leans toward teamplay rather than run and gun. Lower health does not add anything to the game other than perverting the weapon balance that I'm sure the developers have worked hard for.

**Dirt013** · 02-14-2006, 08:15 PM

Can we add Realisim Mod to the server name if we keep it? (or portions of it) That might help us attract i more like minded players.

www.tacticalgamer.com (Realism Mod)

Dirt013

Oh btw, I like the Black out. Would like to see the movement slowed a bit. Health...haven't decided how I feel about that yet.

**Overlag** · 02-14-2006, 08:34 PM