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Originally Posted by Dirt013
Panzerschreck/Bazooka?? Um…there’s no tanks in this game. (At least none that move.) It’s a noob no skill weapon…if you want to take out a fixed position use your grenades, that’s why you have them. I know…never going to happen, but all the Tactical MOHAA clans I ever played with eliminated this weapon.
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I know I'm pretty late on this issue, but I'd like to drop my two cents in...
Bazookas, Panzerschrecks and Panzerfausts were used regularly for units engaged in urban fighting in the WWII. Rocket launchers aren't simply anti-vehicle weapons. In an urban combat setting (and every DoDS map so far IS an urban combat situation), rocket launchers were effectively used to blow up walls connecting adjacent buildings, normal walls and fences, and to dislodge snipers and entrenched MGs from their positions without having to risk a sniper of their own.
The splash damage is pretty much everything that makes a bazooka good. Rifle grenades can kill unwary snipers or MGers, but they work much better as intimidation and movement-restriction weapons because of their long fuse. Normal grenades require you to either get too close or to have a lot of accuracy and luck to run-jump-throw them (I'm not so sure it works in DoDS, though. I tend to play sniper, riflemen and MGer, no 'nades). And you'd still have to expose a lot of yourself to do that. With a bazooka you can expose only a bit of yourself (usually the tip of the tube), fire against the wall/floor/ceiling behind, over, under or beside your target, and retreat to reload. In those situations, the slow walking speed isn't even a nuisance, as it helps you aiming without having to move your mouse much to compensate for your own movement.
It actually takes a lot of work to get enough skill with the bazooka. "Noobs with no skill" using the bazooka are usually lucky, and tend to blow themselves up a lot. When they play it, it's only a few rounds to relieve some stress and laugh a bit, then they either get owned or leave, or change class.
In my opinion, bazookas are like a second kind of sniper... just take a look at this comparison:
Sniper vs Bazooka
1 - Very high accuracy vs slight parabolic trajectory, good horizontal accuracy and splash damage
2 - One-shot-one-kill vs massive damage in point of impact
3 - Possible 5 kills per clip vs possible 5 kills per rocket (the enemies must be pretty close together)
4 - Must use the scope to fire accurately vs must arm the weapon to fire at all
5 - Slow speed while scoped vs slow speed while armed
6 - Hitscan (instant hit) vs flight time
7 - pistol as secondary weapon vs M1-Carbine as secondary weapon
Factors 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 pretty much cancel themselves (of course, some players might make good use of those factors with some dedication). 6 and 7 are unbalanced alone, but still cancel each other (the sniper fires and kills instantly, but got only a pistol as second weapon, while the bazooka might lose a sure-shot because of enemy movement but got the more powerful Carbine as backup).
Some players play as rocket soldier just to have the backup weapon. While the Axis backup weapon isn't very good, the M1-Carbine is reliable (and one of my most beloved weapons in the normal Day of Defeat).
So, putting everything together, I think bazookas are part of the gameplay, a perfectly valid form of gameplay, and shouldn't be excluded. Just because some people get lucky and blast people less than two meters away with a bazooka without even needing to aim, it doesn't mean the weapon is unrealistic, unbalanced or anything wrong. Lucky shots are part of Day of Defeat, just as in any game!
Sorry for the long post, I just had these ideas in mind and throught I'd share them.
(And no, I still don't play in the
TG servers. Not at the moment, but I'm going to as soon as I solve my little problem with lag.)
