Max player count now 16

**kormendi** · 02-22-2006, 04:11 PM

I lowered the player count to 16. My motivation is to see how it will effect the teamwork on the server. I am interested in moving away from 20 player frag fests to a more intimate and tactical style of play. Before anyone freaks out, this is only temporary to see how it will effect game play. A final decision on the player count will be made after sufficient feedback has been received.

My expectation is that tighter teamwork will be required. I also expect that those who ignore considerations of the team will stick out like a sore thumb. When they do so, they will be educated on our teamwork requirements and removed if necessary.

So, let me know how the games go.

**Chewy** · 02-23-2006, 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kormendi

I also expect that those who ignore considerations of the team will stick out like a sore thumb. When they do so, they will be educated on our teamwork requirements and removed if necessary.

Awesome! I think you hit that dead on Kormendi... I also think this greatly help an area that is unfortunately, greatly lacking on the Dystopia Server.

Spartan25 · 02-23-2006, 01:46 AM

Thank you!!
Yay! teamwork!

ReK_ · 02-23-2006, 02:36 AM

hooray!

I see 15 slots btw. You should set the limit to 17 for the res slots

**kormendi** · 02-23-2006, 10:29 AM

When it was set to 20 did you only see 19?

I have seen it fill to 16... the reserved slots are actually slots 17-20 which are hidden

ReK_ · 02-26-2006, 03:14 PM

doesnt mani do single-slot kicker res slots? xaphan does :P

<.<

>.>

**kormendi** · 02-26-2006, 03:39 PM

There are different ways to set up mani. The way we have it set up is there are 20 slots on the server, 16 of which are visible. The 4 hidden slots are used for reservation.

When the server is full (16 players) and someone forces a connect, they enter the server occupying one of the 4 reserved slots. It is at this point where the reservation logic kicks in. Depending on if the player is eligible for a reserved slot or not, either the joining player is kicked or the player with the shortest connection time is kicked.

The reason for the hidden slots is so those who are not aware of the slot reservation will not be confused as to why they cannot join the server when its not full. Additionally we use more than 1 hidden slot because there is the possibility that a joining SM might block others joining at the same time. The slot reservation process takes a few seconds, so it is likely that a conflict may occur.

ReK_ · 02-26-2006, 06:01 PM

I do something similar, but four? I only use two

Mulletman · 02-27-2006, 09:40 AM

I Hate when i can get in and i see some retard in there thats been their for 3 hours with 0 points

**Wyzcrak** · 02-27-2006, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by ReK_

I do something similar, but four? I only use two

Saturday night, I had over six regulars waiting in line to join the full Natural Selection server. Six people tried to join all at the same time, when a single slot opened up.

I have 10+ hidden slots on that server. None of them saw a "Server is full" HLDS dialog. Each was properly managed by the slot reservation logic.

Sometimes, just sometimes, you need more hidden slots than you'd think necessary.

02-22-2006, 04:11 PM	#1 (permalink)
kormendi Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Fairfax, Virginia Age: 27 Posts: 2,172	Max player count now 16 I lowered the player count to 16. My motivation is to see how it will effect the teamwork on the server. I am interested in moving away from 20 player frag fests to a more intimate and tactical style of play. Before anyone freaks out, this is only temporary to see how it will effect game play. A final decision on the player count will be made after sufficient feedback has been received. My expectation is that tighter teamwork will be required. I also expect that those who ignore considerations of the team will stick out like a sore thumb. When they do so, they will be educated on our teamwork requirements and removed if necessary. So, let me know how the games go. __________________ Team Fortress 2 Admin \| NS Admin PM me if you have any questions/concerns regarding the server.

02-23-2006, 01:46 AM	#3 (permalink)
Spartan25 Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 135	Re: Max player count now 16 Thank you!! Yay! teamwork! __________________ 99. A smiley face is not used to mark a minefield. 100. Claymore mines are not filled with yummy candy, and it is wrong to tell new soldiers that they are. 101. I am not allowed to mount a bayonet on a crew-served weapon.

02-23-2006, 02:36 AM	#4 (permalink)
ReK_ Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Vancouver, Canada Age: 20 Posts: 170	Re: Max player count now 16 hooray! I see 15 slots btw. You should set the limit to 17 for the res slots __________________ So long and thanks for all the fish.

02-23-2006, 10:29 AM	#5 (permalink)
kormendi Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Fairfax, Virginia Age: 27 Posts: 2,172	Re: Max player count now 16 When it was set to 20 did you only see 19? I have seen it fill to 16... the reserved slots are actually slots 17-20 which are hidden __________________ Team Fortress 2 Admin \| NS Admin PM me if you have any questions/concerns regarding the server.

02-26-2006, 03:14 PM	#6 (permalink)
ReK_ Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Vancouver, Canada Age: 20 Posts: 170	Re: Max player count now 16 doesnt mani do single-slot kicker res slots? xaphan does :P <.< >.> __________________ So long and thanks for all the fish.

02-26-2006, 03:39 PM	#7 (permalink)
kormendi Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Fairfax, Virginia Age: 27 Posts: 2,172	Re: Max player count now 16 There are different ways to set up mani. The way we have it set up is there are 20 slots on the server, 16 of which are visible. The 4 hidden slots are used for reservation. When the server is full (16 players) and someone forces a connect, they enter the server occupying one of the 4 reserved slots. It is at this point where the reservation logic kicks in. Depending on if the player is eligible for a reserved slot or not, either the joining player is kicked or the player with the shortest connection time is kicked. The reason for the hidden slots is so those who are not aware of the slot reservation will not be confused as to why they cannot join the server when its not full. Additionally we use more than 1 hidden slot because there is the possibility that a joining SM might block others joining at the same time. The slot reservation process takes a few seconds, so it is likely that a conflict may occur. __________________ Team Fortress 2 Admin \| NS Admin PM me if you have any questions/concerns regarding the server.

02-26-2006, 06:01 PM	#8 (permalink)
ReK_ Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Vancouver, Canada Age: 20 Posts: 170	Re: Max player count now 16 I do something similar, but four? I only use two __________________ So long and thanks for all the fish.

02-27-2006, 09:40 AM	#9 (permalink)
Mulletman Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 49	Re: Max player count now 16 I Hate when i can get in and i see some retard in there thats been their for 3 hours with 0 points __________________ You like killing me, dont you -Blah

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