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04-08-2008, 12:26 AM #16
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Guitar Hero and Rock Band are great games, and while learning to play the guitar, it's actually helped quite a bit.
I've heard the rumors of Microsoft putting out a Blu-Ray addon for the Xbox debunked as many times as I've heard it brought up. I'd say it's about a 50/50 chance right now.
I'm a fan of movies, and I can't for the life of me stand to use that XBox controller, so I went with PS3. What you decide, is up to you.RAWGRLRLRLRRLGLRL!!!
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04-08-2008, 06:02 AM #17
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The ps3 is better because it has better graphics.The Blu Ray technology is overated.PS3 is as powerful as a gaming computer and PS3 has the bluray drive and best graphics but not many good games.
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04-08-2008, 07:41 AM #18
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Oh yeah, way overrated...
http://www.blu-ray.com/faq/How much data can you fit on a Blu-ray disc?
A single-layer disc can hold 25GB.
A dual-layer disc can hold 50GB.
To ensure that the Blu-ray Disc format is easily extendable (future-proof) it also includes support for multi-layer discs, which should allow the storage capacity to be increased to 100GB-200GB (25GB per layer) in the future simply by adding more layers to the discs.
What benefits does Blu-ray offer compared to HD-DVD?
Although both Blu-ray and HD-DVD are similar in many aspects, there are some important differences between them.
The first is capacity. Because Blu-ray utilizes a lens with a greater numerical aperture (NA) than HD-DVD, the laser spot can be focused with greater precision to fit more data on the same size disc. This allows Blu-ray to hold 25GB per layer (50GB on a dual-layer disc), whereas HD-DVD can only hold 15GB per layer (30GB on a dual-layer disc). Blu-ray has also adopted a higher data transfer rate for video and audio (54Mbps vs 36.55Mbps). The greater capacity and data transfer rates for Blu-ray will allow the movie studios to release their movies with higher quality video and audio than the HD-DVD format.
The second is content. The Blu-ray format has received broad support from the major movie studios as a successor to today's DVD format. Seven of the eight major movie studios (Warner, Paramount, Fox, Disney, Sony, MGM and Lionsgate) have released titles for Blu-ray, whereas HD-DVD only has support from two major movie studios (Paramount and Universal). This is an important difference because some of the studios might only support one of the formats, so you won't be able to get your favorite movies in the other format. Choosing the format with the most content support minimizes this risk.
The third is hardware support. The Blu-ray format has broad support from the world's leading consumer electronics, personal computer and media manufacturers, including Sony, Panasonic, Philips, Samsung, Pioneer, Sharp, JVC, Hitachi, Mitsubishi, TDK, Thomson, LG, Apple, HP and Dell. The Blu-ray format will also be supported in the next-generation PlayStation 3 (PS3) video game console. This means that you will have a lot of choice when it comes to players and hardware. The HD-DVD format has far fewer supporters, so the amount of players and hardware will be very limited. Currently, Toshiba is the only company offering a stand-alone HD-DVD player.
Remember buying PC-CD ROM games and having to install 5 or 6 discs? Or maybe the 2 and 3 disc Playstation games? Then when DVDs came out, you could put all of that on one disc. Now Bluray will be the next format that will give us much better games and programs in a much smaller package. I'd say that a pretty substantial change. Not to mention that Bluray movies look and sound fantastic on a HDTV with a nice surround system when hooked up with the HDMI cable.
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04-08-2008, 07:51 AM #19
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I have both the PS3 and the 360.
If given the choice, I would have only gotten the PS3. There is the whole "number of games" argument but there ARE a lot of games for the PS3 now. All the new games come out for the PS3 and the 360. The whole number of games argument is something people just keep dragging around from a year ago. That in itself was a soft target because it's a pretty obvious thing to expect fewer games to be released for a brand new system than a system that has been around for a year.
My 360 is nice, but it's not a PS3. I'm also just waiting for the thing to fail again. I've almost stopped buying games for the 360 because I don't see the console lasting and when it finally dies I'm not going to spend money on another one.
When I got the PS3 I really had a more balanced view of the two. But now that i've had the PS3 for a while and I've seen the constant stream of firmware updates for the PS3 that add new features I'm liking the PS3 more and more.
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04-08-2008, 11:27 AM #20
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MGS4 on PS3 = PS3 all the way, but that's just me.
Since the 360 has been released for longer than the PS3, developers have got to grip with the technologies and brought games out on it with better graphics, and more games. However, I think in the next year or so we'll see the PS3's power really show itself off. Also the online is free, although the interface isn't quite as nice as the 360's. You can surf the net and do a lot of other useful and interesting stuff with the PS3, but that whole 360 points system thing is interesting. Blu-Ray is amazing, and although we haven't seen it's potential fully realised yet, we will soon enough.
I have a PS3 only, so I'm highly biased, but I've read up a bit on this subject, and I'd go for a PS3, but if you love online and don't care so much about graphics, don't have a HDTV, have never heard of/liked Metal gear Solid and don't mind paying for your online experience, then the 360 may suit you better. Seriously, one of the reasons I got the PS3 over the 360 was MGS4.Anger is a gift - Malcolm X
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04-08-2008, 01:50 PM #21
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So, I assume you fire automatic weapons on a daily basis.
Originally Posted by El_Gringo_Grande
Ha! I see what you did there. You took the name "Guitar Hero", spun it into a sexually based slur, alluding that people who play it are homosexuals. That is so original and something I would expect from a poster at TG. I mean, we don't separate ourselves from 13 year-old XBLive kiddies here or anything. Originally Posted by Fenian420
Anyways, back on topic: my comment about the integrity of the PS3 network comes from a friend who plays Burnout Paradise on PS3. He complained to me of stability issues and I believe this is because it's almost pure P2P. Sony doesn't host any servers from what I've garnered, but I could be wrong.
Also, I remember reading that the theoretical limit of HD-DVD surpasses that of Blu-Ray. Someone can check me on that, but it really doesn't matter at this point.
One thing that always got me about the PS2 (it's the same thing in the PS3) controller was the lack of refined control with FPSs. That doesn't mean much coming from a PC gamer, but I played my first console shooter (Goldeneye) on the N64 (well, actually Jurassic Park on the SNES, but that doesn't count) and even it performed better than UT on PS2.
The "LOL it's huge" comments aside for the 360 controller, the joystick placement is much more intuitive, and also makes for much easier access to the extra buttons (especially once they ditched the stupid Black/White buttons in favor of bumpers).
Personally, I may be breaking my boycott on Sony products once Resistance 2 comes out because the thought of game built around the concept of 8 player co-op is too awesome to pass up, even if it does come from Sony. That said, I will be playing the game first on a PS3 I don't own so I can test to see if the controller won't drive me crazy.
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04-08-2008, 02:28 PM #22
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The more I think about it, the difference between the two is what you plan on doing with it. For just single player games, I would say PS3 based on hardware or it just is game specific for the individual. Multiplayer I hear more positives about Xbox Live than Sony's network so I would give the edge to the 360. Movie player PS3 hands down because of blue ray. Multimedia or media center, Apophis is the only person I know of that uses the PS3 like that. My personal experience is with the 360 so that may be a toss up as I am unsure about the ability of the PS3.
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04-08-2008, 03:08 PM #23
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Yes, FPS's aren't great on PS3, and Halo is probably the biggest demonstration of how XBOX is probably the best with FPS's, however, any FPS I'm going to play online is probably going to be on a PC anyway. I only buy FPS's for my PS3 if I think it'll be decent to play when my friends/cousins come round for a bit of split-screen team deathmatch (C0D4), but for most FPS shooters, I'd definitely go for a PC version over a console version. Plus, if it's an exclusive, amazingly, jaw-droppingly fantastic shooter, it's either going to be available for the PS3, or the XBOX+PC (since PC and XBOX are both Microsoft platforms), so with the PS3 it's a win-win, e.g. you want to play Halo and Resistance but don't have both consoles...well, if you have a PS3 and a PC, Halo's out on PC as well, same for Gears of War, but if you don't get a PS3, you can't play MGS4!!! Originally Posted by TheFeniX
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04-08-2008, 03:24 PM #24
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xD Originally Posted by TheFeniX
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04-08-2008, 04:10 PM #25
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I have never understood the argument that the joystick placement on the Xbox controller was better. To me it is uncomfortable. When my thumbs are at rest, they are pretty much in the same place, just mirror image of the other hand. I'm not some freak that has a longer thumb on my left hand, or a thumb that is jointed in a different place. This makes me hold the controller with each hand in a different position relative to each other and just feels weird. To me it feels like it was designed by a blind man with no thumbs. Another thing in my 360 bashing is that I have never understood the Halo series. The multiplayer feels like CoD on crack and the single player is so linear that it might as well have been made as a 2D scroller.
Also, Sony does run a lot of servers. For example, the ever popular SOCOM series servers. They have their issues, but they are staffed pretty well and get regular updates. I do wish they had more Admin-like people on the server to combat the usual horde of idiots who can't play without cheating somehow. In the past, all the game servers were separate, and you had your own friend lists and messaging for each game. Now with the PS3, we have a common online status, friend list, and messaging, similar to Xfire or something. Sony Home is supposed to expand on that when it makes it's way to us.
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04-08-2008, 06:23 PM #26
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Yh, I'm excited about Sony Home's arrival.
Also, Halo is just brilliant because it's the split-screen game. Simple run and gun but here's a simple equation:
Blood Gulch + 3 friends/brother + 2 cousins = Awesome fun
C0D4 has replaced this, because I never had an XBOX and the Halo experience was at another friends place and my cousin used to borrow his friend's when i went round his house sometimes, so I never got to play the single player. C0D4 is nice, but it's weird and unexplainable, Halo just had a magic feel...the same went for the split screen Quake 3 Arena on the Dreamcast, Capture the Flag.
I'm a PS3 guy all the way, but the 360 isn't completely sucky.
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04-08-2008, 06:55 PM #27
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I play Burnout Paradise on the PS3 a LOT. Most of it online play. I have NEVER actually had a network/stability issue playing the game. Maybe your friend should look into their home network to see if there are any issues. Originally Posted by TheFeniX
I don't think there are any dedicated servers for Burnout Paradise, but there are for plenty of other games. I've never had any stability issues playing Warhawk or when hosting my own dedicated Warhawk server.
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04-08-2008, 08:15 PM #28
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The only network issues I have heard of from my friends seem to be related to the whole wireless deal. Seems that some electronics cause interference that pops up at odd times, but nothing consistent. My systems are all hardwired for security, reliability and the fact that I have hundreds of feet of Cat6 cable laying around.
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04-08-2008, 09:47 PM #29
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So far the few games I have played online with my PS3 I have not had issues with either. I am wondering if they are connecting to a server that may have a high ping that is not located in their area? The games I have played online such as Motorstorm only give location of the server like East, West or something like that, maybe they are connecting to the wrong area. Of course you are going to have issues connecting farther away from your ISP.
I have mine set up wirelessly and have had no problems playing. I do not have a bluetooth headset but heard a lot of issues with that but also after doing some searching around it is due to the fact most people do not have their wireless network set up properly and their bandwidth is limited. A few articles explain this from what I read. I plan on getting Warhawk and the bluetooth headset that comes with it soon. Maybe I will find out first hand how well VOiP in games work.
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lol note the (SP) thing?? South Park.. Kinda a inside joke for anybody who watches it.. and yea, saying that you wouldnt expect some kind of thing to come from a certain community is a little opinionated... Larger the community gets the wider the opions and views get (not relating this back to any 'sexually based slur' or anything)
But whats with the interface people are talking about with the PS3? How is it all that confusing or anything? and with you being able to get online to websites and all that your PS3 cant get virus' or anything like that, yes? Does kinda seem the typical thing some nerdy kid whos angery about the world would try and pull..."A Veteran is someone who , at one point in their life, wrote a blank check made payable to
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