Heavily edited due to accidentally posting it before I was done.

Originally Posted by Xen

BFx series:The Run and Gun we see now is only a hairs breath from a Pub server, in my opinion. Everyone pony's up as medics, and all other kits are pushed to the wayside. This does not follow #3. In real world tactics, each squad has 1 medic, maybe 2, and their only job is keeping the squad fighting. I love this argument for the run and gun in 2142, in the future how do you know this wouldn't be the real world tactics??? It's simple, people do not want to get shot, it hurts even if you can be patched up instantly, you would still avoid going through the pain if you could avoid it. 2142's worst flaw is that everyone embraces a game mechanic that is completely unrealistic, as being near simulation realistic, which goes against TG's SOP. Please read #3 above for more explanation.

I stopped playing battlefield because of how quickly one can be revived and respawned. It lends itself (completely in my opinion) to not caring about lives. If the time between respawns increased to a minute or two, I think that might make a BIG difference in the game. I like the longer revive, too. That would make it worth the time. I think the two go hand in hand. Because if there respawn is the same, why bother taking longer to let the medic do it's work? But again, this is all about how I enjoy a game. If the BF community, and TG as a whole, decides to play a game in a certain way, then I will be fine with that. Why? Because TG has always been about playing a game in a mature way. Teamwork. Cooperation. Unless something radically changes at TG (which is one of the signs of the Apocalypse), whatever is decided will be good. It may change and flow with the times and opinions, especially with new games, but it will be a good game. Some games just don't appeal to certain people. Fine. I'm sure something here at TG will appeal to you. And I'm sure the way it is played will appeal to you as well.

additionally, I haven't played many other games besides CSS and (recently) left 4 dead. One of the biggest things about Counter strike I like is: If you die, then you're dead. It's over. Until that round. That's realism to me. I understand the point that respawns similate larger armies and the like, but I don't really get into it. I died, 30 seconds later I'm back in the fight. Let's just keep throwing bodies at a spot and hope we break through? (just my preference) I think the finality of your death is what makes a game less of a run and gun and more of a strategy game.

When I did play BF2142 and BF2, i didn't have much problem with the way it was played (from our view and the admin's work). Granted, it's been a while. I plan on trying to play it some more once we move into the new house and I get everything set up and ready to go.

I have great respect for anyone who is willing to be an admin here. It is a much harder job then being admin in 99% of the other places. People who are new here come in and expect the same pub mentality. You have to tell them otherwise and deal with the morons who refuse to care about our rules.

I think it comes down to this basic rule:
if you can talk about it calmly, it will work. If you have to resort to anger and nastiness, you will fail.
(This is why I tend to stay out of a lot of discussions in the sandbox, as a sidenote. Often it doesn't stay at the high level of communication I prefer to enjoy at TG.)

Originally Posted by cstealth

(CS:S players are freaks :P)

This is true. We are. MWA HA HA HA HA

Originally Posted by rage4order

So should the entire 2142 community just pull up and leave?

I think this is a gross exageration of the point. It also seems to be lacking of a desire to talk about the issue.