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    Do not Buy WarZ -Scam and a Fraud-

    Like some of you I was excited that today was the release of the Alpha version of the WarZ, but pretty much the moment the Alpha was released the floodgates of information that was attempting to be hidden from us was all shown at once.

    The Terms and Conditions that you have to agree to are Copied directly from League of Legends, they even forgot to remove the League of Legends references from it.

    http://i.imgur.com/EBOr7.jpg


    Almost all if not ALL assets are directly copied and pasted from War Inc, if only a few assets were from it then I would say okay, but if from a game that has supposedly been in the making for TWO years has almost NO original textures, weapons, vehicles, or buildings then it should set off a Red Alarm at the least.

    Also, the Minimum Requirements that were posted weeks ago were changed and we are only notified at the download page less then two hours ago, so if you assumed you could run this game, you most likely cannot due to them hiding this information until after you paid for it.

    Also, this Alpha release is probably one of the worst releases ever, nothing is working, and when people finally get into the game they realize how the game is nothing but an empty shell of nothing, nothing works, there's very few zombies that usually don't even move, and the map even being only the proposed 1/3 of its size due to alpha is incredibly small and lackluster.

    There are many other things that are wrong with this game, I will add more info as I find it and anyone else who finds more info should too.

    Q. Are you sure about this?
    A. No, I am not 100% sure, but I am sure enough that I CANCELED my CREDIT CARD and got the $50 back that I paid for this game.

    This is a Video posted a month or so ago that I wish I saw that explains a lot of info easier than I can by creating a wall of text forum post.

    Video #1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXKu5lV69V8
    Video #2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUlhkTIzUa4
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    Re: Do not Buy WarZ -Scam and a Fraud-

    All I have to say is it's made by the same people that made War Inc. I never planned on getting it, based on that alone. War Inc. was awful.

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    Re: Do not Buy WarZ -Scam and a Fraud-

    Great post, This seems to be one of the more blatant attempts by a company to just use the success of a mod, then fool fans into buying it to get some quick cash.


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    Re: Do not Buy WarZ -Scam and a Fraud-

    Seems like the Alpha that had just opened two hours ago is now closed atm, seems they got all the credit card info and mone..... I mean info they needed to make the game better. Forums and most of website is also currently down.

    To make this funnier, below is ACTUAL video of WarZ Dev's attempting to fix the Servers and Forums/Website.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiicVN0dBmY

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    Re: Do not Buy WarZ -Scam and a Fraud-

    So what if this turns into a take the money and run situation?


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    Re: Do not Buy WarZ -Scam and a Fraud-

    Quote Originally Posted by BeSiege82 View Post
    So what if this turns into a take the money and run situation?
    Well, then I'm glad I canceled my credit card and got my $50 back since I only paid for it last night and it didn't transfer yet.

    I don't believe it will turn into that though, at least it won't be that obvious. It will most likely be that they will keep up this fake front of pretending to patch it up and that this will actually be a good game. Once people start realizing whats going on and the amount of purchases start to stop in the next few weeks/months then they will simply stop with the game and shut everything down citing a lack of funds or something. They made their small fortune and a lots of people are out of 20-50 bucks.

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    Re: Do not Buy WarZ -Scam and a Fraud-

    Grizzlefist, those videos are old reporting warz as a scam. The website is active and as far as i know, it always has been. Yes its true, they are basing the game from war inc, but in the same vain, Dayz took its base from Arma.
    The video links you posted are old. There are replies and various other videos showing in-game gameplay in direct correlation and addressing all of Rhino's points. I suggest you check the warz forums. I am waiting myself to see what happens before commiting, but they all seem legit so far; so the scare mongering needs to stop unless you have concrete evidence or proof of any foul play, as its slander and libelious to say the least , causing such defamamtion without proper proof, except 2 youtube video's of someone ranting (with no evidence) of wars being a scam.
    I suggest people decide for themselves, but to err on the side of caution and wait till reviews etc from actual game paying players come up.

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    Re: Do not Buy WarZ -Scam and a Fraud-

    The youtube videos weren't my "proof" I simply posted them since they summed up a great deal of the things that I experienced when trying to play the Alpha. The other photo of that I posted with the terms and conditions being copied and pasted from League of Legends should be proof enough that something weird is going on.

    It's very obvious to me that this game is not a project "two years in the making", it was quickly put together sometime this past summer and was rushed to be put out before the DayZ standalone in order to make a quick money grab at everyone who was searching for a Zombie game. This is not a defamation of character or of a business, this is fact.
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    Re: Do not Buy WarZ -Scam and a Fraud-

    I think someone was already jadded to Warz, to claim its a scam and that's a "FACT" a mear couple of hours after the ALPHA is released is a little harsh. They have already put out a hotfix, and at this time of my post the servers are still up and playing, those are actually facts BTW not an opinion like you put out. Could this still be a scam, maybe but I'm not seeing it. What I'm see is an "ALPHA" IE a buggy as hell half finished game, you know like an alpha suppose to be. To TG at large, my suggestions is to wait on purchase. I plan to stick with it for awhile and I'll be happy to let you know which way this game goes.
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    Re: Do not Buy WarZ -Scam and a Fraud-

    im playing warz and getting crashes and even though its in alpha, but i am enjoying it so far. i am interested in the PvE servers for WarZ that the dev team was talking about, i am more into pve more than pvp so i will be enjoying that part of the game where i get to decide what kind of server i like to play on, dayz didnt have the option of pve or pvp, it was straight pvp so you had a 50/50 chance that someone your near would kill you or not, i am there to enjoy the game without having to look over my back every 2 seconds making sure the person with me didnt kill me to loot my stuff. another reason why i didnt like dayz is because of the step on a rock and die because of it. and also the hackers were a major problem. i watched the video from "rhinocrunch" and its more speculation more than facts. he never talked to the dev team personally about the game. he just pointed out what he read and saw with his eyes. now i don't think the game is a scam, i'm playing it, having a fun time with what i can till beta is released. it may take dive, it may not. i only put 30 dollars into the game, not like i put 1500 dollars into the game or anything, ive played games before where i spend some money to play it and a few months down the road they die out (like the orignal APB). I just hope the game continues down its path, and hopefully get the chance to play on pve servers and only worry about zombies and surviving. i may get back into the pvp servers, but not something i like in a survival game. right now i just start up and i die within 5 mins because a survivor has a better weapon than i do. not really fun if you keep dieing every 5 mins from other players. thats why i want to play on a pve server.
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    Re: Do not Buy WarZ -Scam and a Fraud-

    I'm not jaded to anything, I'm a guy who paid $50 on this piece of trash and did not research ahead of time what this game really was. I didn't post to argue with you all. Your saying how great the game could be yet you ignore all the signs that something is wrong including that they copied the Terms and Conditions from League of Legends, and that everything in it is a ripoff of other games such as crysis.

    Just be warned of everything before you decide to put money down on this game "two years in the making" and any other game in the future, especially ones from Russia.

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    Re: Do not Buy WarZ -Scam and a Fraud-

    Yeah, I knew this was a big cash-in as soon as I saw the devs of WAR INC. were on it. WAR INC. was a terrible game, if you can even call it one. The videos they posted were so fake and scripted, and it especially shows during the part where the guy "saves" someone running away from two PvPers...who happen to chat on text and casually walk down a road side by side while missing for a good minute at a target running straight.

    Unfortunately, some guys i knew all bought into the hype, and they have a huge train of pre-orders. Joke's on them.


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    Re: Do not Buy WarZ -Scam and a Fraud-

    most of us have already purchased and playing the alpha, if your hesitant on getting the game, then wait till it goes live. i'm very sure alot of the players who are testing it right now will let you know what is going on. if your looking to try out the beta when it gets relseased, every person who is playing alpha got 3 beta keys you can try for 48 hours. just ask one of us if you like to give it a try and we'll be happy to give one of them out.

    Also, this Alpha release is probably one of the worst releases ever, nothing is working, and when people finally get into the game they realize how the game is nothing but an empty shell of nothing, nothing works, there's very few zombies that usually don't even move, and the map even being only the proposed 1/3 of its size due to alpha is incredibly small and lackluster.
    Alpha is like that, they not gonna make the game run its max on alpha. alpha is and always will be very buggy, crashing all the time, bearly any zombies or ai running around, limited space as far as how big the map will be. need to run a small portion of what the map at a time so later you can increase the size once it becomes stable. i mean look at the ammount of players they got right now on servers, says 40 but i doubt the servers can hold that many right now. been seeing a max of 25 people on every server.

    I have put money toward games that are in production and being developed, its a matter of chance and everything. if your not willing to risk some money to get a game off the ground then dont. i have put money toward a game called takedown that is from kickstarter (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/...ctical-shooter). i put 50 dollars toward the game, do they have videos of gameplay yet? no. they got a few screenshots and thats it, also they only got a forum up so far. also have put money toward Star Citizen (http://www.robertsspaceindustries.com/). and put money toward planetary annihilation (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/...generation-rts). then i also put money toward WarZ, do i know these other companies are going to run away with my money, no. but its a chance i'm willing to take to get a game off the ground and into better production.

    Now is the game a copy of DayZ? yes it is. but DayZ is not a game, its a mod. when i heard Rhino said that the dev posted up saying WarZ is the first zombie survival game. in a way it is, i haven't seen too many MMO Zombie Survival games out there. DayZ is more considered a MMO Zombie Survival Mod of Arma 2. Arma 2 is the game, DayZ is the mod. they say that because its a marketing strategy to get the game noticed by the public. are there going to be people looking at it and saying its just a copy? always, but every game out there is a copy of something that has been released, that will never change. a good example of a game copying another game would be minecraft, sandbox building game. a game that copied it was terraria, buts its a 2-d sandbox building game. reading all the chat on youtube and the forums for both games, there is an endless flamewar going on for people saying terraria copied minecraft. both games are different but they have the same unique genre in it.

    i could make tons of examples of other games copying games. i'm guessing the people who made warz say an idea and they went for it. now is the game going to get a few years out of production, maybe, maybe not. will arma 3 kill off the players for warz, probably. is there things that make warz unique than what dayz has? yes (i.e. PvE "Player versus Environment" Servers). WarZ is a standalone game of a zombie survival mmo. DayZ is a mod of Arma 2, and very buggy to the point where they are probably not going to be able to fix them, but been hearing they are going to continue dayz in arma 3.
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    Re: Do not Buy WarZ -Scam and a Fraud-

    Quote Originally Posted by GrizzleFist View Post
    I'm not jaded to anything, I'm a guy who paid $50 on this piece of trash and did not research ahead of time what this game really was. I didn't post to argue with you all. Your saying how great the game could be yet you ignore all the signs that something is wrong including that they copied the Terms and Conditions from League of Legends, and that everything in it is a ripoff of other games such as crysis.

    Just be warned of everything before you decide to put money down on this game "two years in the making" and any other game in the future, especially ones from Russia.
    Were did I say the game was great in fact If I remember right
    buggy as hell half finished game
    . You are claiming its a ripoff a couple of hours after release. All I'm saying is its to soon to say that.
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    Re: Do not Buy WarZ -Scam and a Fraud-

    patch note Oct 16:

    "coming October 16 :
    - Password Reset/Forgot password links on Launcher
    - "invisible zombie" fix
    - more randon spawns
    - more game servers !"
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