Announcing the Tactical OS Project - Page 2

**Pokerface** · 06-17-2005, 06:37 PM

They're talking dev work. Remember, one of the goals of the project is to KISS.

Although I'm saddened to see that ATI users need not apply. I fully understand why, though.

IceCold · 06-17-2005, 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TG_Mateo

you read the blog, right?

Is there something there other than the initial posting and 4 comments? If there is, I can't see it...

**Iceberg** · 06-18-2005, 01:23 AM

I would like to see:

IRC/Messenger Programs
Web Browser
Email Client
Text editor
And besides games, that is it. Nice, clean, quick.

Have the GUI less windows looking and more like a command interface from an RTS

Have the ability to sync with RSS feeds automaticaly on the destop background (kind of like an active desktop in windows).

/me dreams

Root · 06-18-2005, 03:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by squeak

Have the GUI less windows looking and more like a command interface from an RTS

Well you could design (or find) such a scheme. KDE is a pretty popular window manager. If you find / design one in the immediate future, get it to Mateo and we'll probably look at including it in the distro.

Root

True · 06-19-2005, 10:16 PM

A nice base distro to use may be Gentoo. You can easily customize it to your specifications, then package it up or make more of a livecd environment, etc... Since you'd probably be x86 only (I would assume?), making a sufficient binary release shouldn't be a problem. In that case, portage would be your package manager. You could have your own rsync server as well, so adding and updating your own packages in addition to Gentoo's would be feasable with your own ebuilds (game binary installers, etc). There are some GUI frontends to portage, but I do not use any.

If you want a Gentoo box to play around with, let me know. While people make it out as a geek distro and we that use it as Gentoo zealots, well...it is easy to install if you can read, and we're zealots for a reason.

That, and I think for a project like this, it'd work great as a starting point.

Mateo · 06-19-2005, 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by squeak

Have the GUI less windows looking and more like a command interface from an RTS

Well, that's an interesting idea. Never really thought about it....obviously, I think going for something more windows like was a better idea, as we are going for ease of use.

But an RTS like interface is possible with Talisman and Litestep under windows...could be possible with Linux as well. Maybe start with Enlightenment as a code base?

Quote:

Have the ability to sync with RSS feeds automaticaly on the destop background (kind of like an active desktop in windows). /me dreams

Interesting....why would you want that?

Mateo · 06-19-2005, 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pokerface

Although I'm saddened to see that ATI users need not apply. I fully understand why, though.

Well, if someone has a spare ATI card they want to lend to the cause, then we will do it. Since I have an NVIDIA card, and their support is pretty good, I can focus on code, not whether drivers work.

**Pokerface** · 06-19-2005, 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TG_Mateo

Well, if someone has a spare ATI card they want to lend to the cause, then we will do it. Since I have an NVIDIA card, and their support is pretty good, I can focus on code, not whether drivers work.

Would a 9000 do? Or do you need something more current?

**CingularDuality** · 06-20-2005, 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TG_Mateo

Well, that's an interesting idea. Never really thought about it....obviously, I think going for something more windows like was a better idea, as we are going for ease of use.

But an RTS like interface is possible with Talisman and Litestep under windows...could be possible with Linux as well. Maybe start with Enlightenment as a code base?

Would it be possible to have two (or three or four) GUIs to choose from? I mean, they're just interfaces, right?

Whatever you do, I request that you include the ability to use expanding toolbars instead of or in addition to clunky ol' icons. I really like a clean desktop that has a toolbar that quickly expands to display the program icons that I often use. Then, of course, the Start menu is available to find programs that I don't often use...

Mateo · 06-20-2005, 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CingularDuality

Would it be possible to have two (or three or four) GUIs to choose from? I mean, they're just interfaces, right?

Yeah, that might be possible. The problem becomes size of the OS. They aren't just interfaces, though. Maybe they started out that way, but now, they are more complete desktop environments, with applications, their own theme engines, and backing libraries.

The reason why most distros bleed over to 2 or three disks is because of this. Installed, GNOME + KDE runs ~1.5 gb.

The way around that, and superior to my mind, is release "flavors" based on a specific DE. So you would have one disk for Gnome, another for KDE, etc..., optimized to that set of code.

Quote:

Whatever you do, I request that you include the ability to use expanding toolbars instead of or in addition to clunky ol' icons. I really like a clean desktop that has a toolbar that quickly expands to display the program icons that I often use. Then, of course, the Start menu is available to find programs that I don't often use...

Like object bar? Something like that? Or more of a wharf, like litestep, Winstep, etc..?

Mateo · 06-20-2005, 12:43 PM

Saw this over at the YOPER forums.....

Quote:

The Ten Commandments for Linux Distributions

1) Thou shalt recognize the printer.
2) Thou shalt receive pictures from a digital camera.
3) Thou shalt acknowledge the Video Card & Monitor.
4) Thou shalt identify the Hard Disk.
5) Thou shalt approve the CPU and the Motherboard.
6) Thou shalt connect to the Internet.
7) Thou shalt work with any CD & DVD rom.
8) Thou shalt have all movie codecs to watch all the porn we have.
9) Thou shalt be easy to install.
10) Thou shalt not crash.

Comments? I think this is food for thought.

Black_V!per · 06-20-2005, 12:55 PM

And for this one here:

11) Thou shalt play all Windows Compatible games.

Mateo · 06-20-2005, 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pokerface

Would a 9000 do? Or do you need something more current?

That would do fine. You want to test the ATI version?

**Pokerface** · 06-20-2005, 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TG_Mateo

That would do fine. You want to test the ATI version?

If'n you want me to, I can. I have a 9550 that I'm actually running right now, too.

**CingularDuality** · 06-20-2005, 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TG_Mateo

Like object bar? Something like that? Or more of a wharf, like litestep, Winstep, etc..?

Yeah, there are lots of cool ones out there. ObjectBar is especially cool. I'm not familiar with the others. I just want a tool bar that "auto hides" and has an expanding menu for my favorite apps and an expanding menu for all of my apps, similar to the Windows quick launch menu and Start menu.

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Iceberg Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Illinois Age: 24 Posts: 1,924	Re: Announcing the Tactical OS Project I would like to see: IRC/Messenger Programs Web Browser Email Client Text editor And besides games, that is it. Nice, clean, quick. Have the GUI less windows looking and more like a command interface from an RTS Have the ability to sync with RSS feeds automaticaly on the destop background (kind of like an active desktop in windows). /me dreams __________________ It only takes 2 bites [insert parasite] to get to the center of a meatpop. TGNS Admin \| NS Forum Moderator Digz \| NS Play Tester Natural Selection \| TGNS Primer \| Communication Awareness! Army Info: AIT - 37F @ Fort Bragg, NC Graduate AIT Oct 23rd.

06-19-2005, 10:16 PM	#20 (permalink)
True Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 9	Re: Announcing the Tactical OS Project A nice base distro to use may be Gentoo. You can easily customize it to your specifications, then package it up or make more of a livecd environment, etc... Since you'd probably be x86 only (I would assume?), making a sufficient binary release shouldn't be a problem. In that case, portage would be your package manager. You could have your own rsync server as well, so adding and updating your own packages in addition to Gentoo's would be feasable with your own ebuilds (game binary installers, etc). There are some GUI frontends to portage, but I do not use any. If you want a Gentoo box to play around with, let me know. While people make it out as a geek distro and we that use it as Gentoo zealots, well...it is easy to install if you can read, and we're zealots for a reason. That, and I think for a project like this, it'd work great as a starting point.

06-20-2005, 12:55 PM	#27 (permalink)
Black_V!per Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Kingman AZ. Age: 20 Posts: 1,445	Re: Announcing the Tactical OS Project And for this one here: 11) Thou shalt play all Windows Compatible games. __________________ Start counting, when you reach infinity tell me. If you can read this you've got to much time on your hands.

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