Re: School Is Almost Out!

**DudeMan** · 05-23-2004, 11:57 AM

Originally Posted by Wintermute

I am currently sitting my first year exams, but my last one is a week on wednesday, after which I will go back to destroying my brain instead of teaching it physics.

OH GOD PHYSICS IS SO DRY, I DID THAT IN COLLEGE FOR A YEAR, I GOT A GOOD GRADE BUT I DROPPED IT.

**CingularDuality** · 05-23-2004, 03:16 PM

Sorry, but could one of you chaps explain the grade levels in Britain real quick? Over here, kids must start school in kindergarten where they are taught mostly social skills and it's ensured that they know their alphabet and numbers and colors and stuff. 1st-through 8th grades are all part of primary school. Some places will seperate k-6th grade from 7th-8th grade (called middle school or Jr. High school). Then 9th through 12th grade (frosh, sophomore, jr. , sr. yrs) is secondary schooling or high school. Senior year in high school is the last year mandated by the governent, and usually the last year of free education. After that comes 4-12 years of higher education at a college or university.

To you guys college and university are two completely different things? For us they're almost synonymous.

**DudeMan** · 05-23-2004, 03:24 PM

ok nursery, for 4 year olds

couting 1-10 colours painting pictures and kiddies stuff.

5 yr olds reception, one year stage inf integration with primary school, baisic math alphabet ect ect

6-11 primary school

from noting to the baisics of algebra sex education reproduction ect ect

secondary school

11-16 you learn science math geography history now comming up to what you will need to know in life leaving school and baisically sparking interest.

you can leave school now no quams, alot of people in UK do leave at 16

go to college

this is a 2-4 year course of higher education in 3-4 chosen subjects. this is aiming at a career

university is the detailed learning of 1-2 of those 3-4 courses you choose aimed at a specific carreer...

its just a triangle thing, you can leave college and have alot of options but not one really specific, you go to uni and you have all those options plus a few more but you will on papper be totally suited to a few jobs... thats all really.

**CingularDuality** · 05-23-2004, 04:08 PM

Originally Posted by DudeMan

11-16 you learn science math geography history now comming up to what you will need to know in life leaving school and baisically sparking interest.

you can leave school now no quams, alot of people in UK do leave at 16

go to college

this is a 2-4 year course of higher education in 3-4 chosen subjects. this is aiming at a career

university is the detailed learning of 1-2 of those 3-4 courses you choose aimed at a specific carreer...

its just a triangle thing, you can leave college and have alot of options but not one really specific, you go to uni and you have all those options plus a few more but you will on papper be totally suited to a few jobs... thats all really.

Ah, I see...
So your college is like our last two years of high school combined with maybe an associate's degree. And your university is like our colleges and universities.

**LegionPaulL** · 05-24-2004, 09:56 AM

I have a question. Which colleges are better? American universitys or England's? I may go to colleage, maybe, and if I do, I want the best.
ONLY 3 DASYS LEFT! Hoo-RA!

**DudeMan** · 05-24-2004, 10:05 AM

Originally Posted by LegionPaulL

I have a question. Which colleges are better? American universitys or England's? I may go to colleage, maybe, and if I do, I want the best.

well actually they are pretty much the same, you have in the USA 2 really good cream of the crop colleges yale and harvard if i am not mistaken,

many people who i have spoken too including the universty deam himself said that oxford is a much better college but he is bound to say that.

oxford is one of the two oxford and cambridge which are the best unis in England. but if you have a degree from any of those 4 you will be recognised world over, but i must say vetting and selection for these places is well its crazy the ammount of people who dont get in who have straight a's

i dont think either university would say that the other was better than it so you wont get an answer better than that without alot of research.

i do know that that the tutoring you get at oxford is 121 which is why something like 99% of students pass with a 2:1 degree

1 student and one tutor and he teaches you everything you didnt understand in the lectures for the week, simeple as that......but you gotta have the big bucks to get an education like that.

**LegionPaulL** · 05-24-2004, 10:09 AM

Interesting. I am smart, but Harvard and Yale are like Mensa material students. I am a above average student, but come on, I am also abit poor. I would have to be validictoriane (I probably spelt that wrong), or maybe some scholarships, it will be tough if I try.

**Overlag** · 05-24-2004, 11:27 AM

Originally Posted by LegionPaulL

I have a question. Which colleges are better? American universitys or England's? I may go to colleage, maybe, and if I do, I want the best.
ONLY 3 DASYS LEFT! Hoo-RA!

i think USA's basic education is better, but UK's further education (uni/college etc) is better are better...i dunno

**Wintermute** · 05-24-2004, 01:01 PM

I spoke to someone who did American Studies in both the UK and US and she said the US course was far easier. I have heard other rumours that UK uni courses are harder but no actual hard evidence.

The 2 years between high school and Uni can either be spent in college, which is a seperate institution, or sixth form which is attached to a high school. It is called sixth form because they used to number from when you started high school.

There has been a recent increase in the amount of courses and modern appreticeships etc that you can now do after high school. I believe the prevailing thinking is that most people should get some form of further training or education after 16 even if its not a degree.

Oxbridge (oxford and Cambridge) have long been regarded as the top UK universities, but stastics and assesments often show that many other universities offer just as good an education, especially in certain subjects.

"but you gotta have the big bucks to get an education like that."
Currently Oxbridge charges the same to UK students as all other UK universities but that might change. International students get charged a lot more at all universities and fees vary.

**Wolfie** · 05-24-2004, 01:56 PM

This is from what I have heard.

European courses concentrate more on theory in regards to the subject matter while American courses concentrate more on practicality in regards to the subject matter. So comparing the 2 is like compare apples to oranges.

Also, there are alot more than just "2" good colleges/universities here. It really depends on the subject matter. Engineering for example, one of the best colleges in the states (and I am pretty sure it is ranked pretty high in the world) is Rose Hulman Institute of Technology. However, this is primary for just your BS in an engineering field. For masters and PhD degrees, other colleges provide a better program for engineering than Rose does.

**IceCold** · 05-24-2004, 03:22 PM

Originally Posted by DudeMan

well actually they are pretty much the same, you have in the USA 2 really good cream of the crop colleges yale and harvard if i am not mistaken,

LOL!!! Yale and Harvard are most definitely NOT the cream of the crop in the US. They're good schools for certain fields of study. The best, perhaps... But just like every other school, it is possible to merely buy a degree.

Q · 05-24-2004, 04:44 PM

Originally Posted by LegionPaulL

ONLY 3 DASYS LEFT! Hoo-RA!

:slaps LegionPaul: I still have 6 days

**LegionPaulL** · 05-24-2004, 05:23 PM

What is that suppose to mean? I am only excited that I can go out and party without school to worry about again.

**H-Hour** · 05-24-2004, 05:30 PM

Oddly enough, if you want a graduate degree in Jazz, one of the best state schools is(was - there were some changes) University of Northern Colorado in Greely, Colorado. Now, who the hell decided to put such a good jazz program in the middle of a town based around farming?!?!? I mean, seriously. There was only ONE place in town that had a jazz night. And it smelled like ass all the time. I mean all the time.

I'm with IceCold, though. I have yet to see a school where you can't just buy a degree. And that's what most kids seem to be doing.

**LegionPaulL** · 05-24-2004, 05:45 PM

I am multi-talented in music. I play the Piano, Guitar, Acostic, drums, and violin. I will make pictures and post them soon.

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