The Red Arrows - Page 2

**Overlag** · 03-04-2006, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by aesop rock

Damn fine videos. In my eyes, the reason why the Blue Angels stand out is their historical significance. That, and the F9F-2 Panther was the worlds first large-production jet fighter. Since then, the blue angels have represented the 'cutting edge' of fighter technology, all the way up to the current McDonnell Douglas F/A-18 Hornet. Hope I got this stuff right :P.

that is true i guess cutting edge is always good, that F9F was good, i certainly like the F6F in Aces high!

cutting edge is good, however since these displays are "just" for recruiting pilots the UK doesn't put much funding into them at all, But then the plane the red arrows use is perfect for the job and looks good too. I cant imagine having fun watching 9x EF2000 or tornado's doing these displays.

The fact that the EU is trying to cut our forces down, and merge them with a joint EU force is really disheartening...because the first thing to go would be the red arrows.

munchkin · 03-04-2006, 08:20 PM

If you guys want more videos, check this site out:
http://www.patricksaviation.com/
It eats up more and more of my bandwidth each month.

**CingularDuality** · 03-04-2006, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Overlag

of course I'm starting to show patriotism to anything from the UK, however i don't see anything in those blue angel videos that the red arrows cant do, and the red arrows have "old" non-supper fighters

Right, well, I'm impressed by the fact that the Blue Angels can be ready for combat in their own planes in less than 24 hours. I missed the Red Arrows flying in a tight, inverted formation above the audience... I would think that aerobatics would be easier in older, slower planes, too?

I dunno.... I'm probably being too patriotic, too? I grew up right next to Davis Monthan AFB until I was 6 and then 10 minutes away from Miramar, and got to see the Thunderbirds and Blue Angels all the time.

munchkin · 03-04-2006, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by CingularDuality

I would think that aerobatics would be easier in older, slower planes, too?

In terms of having to contend with the speed of the aircraft, sure. However, newer planes would respond to inputs with more precision, and would most probably have more advanced flight control computers to handle things such the trim, flaps, etc.

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Then again, the trainer aircraft which the Red Arrows use are extremely adept at low-level, fast maneuvering.

**Overlag** · 03-05-2006, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by CingularDuality

Right, well, I'm impressed by the fact that the Blue Angels can be ready for combat in their own planes in less than 24 hours. I missed the Red Arrows flying in a tight, inverted formation above the audience... I would think that aerobatics would be easier in older, slower planes, too?

I dunno.... I'm probably being too patriotic, too? I grew up right next to Davis Monthan AFB until I was 6 and then 10 minutes away from Miramar, and got to see the Thunderbirds and Blue Angels all the time.

yeah i guess.... I mean all these guys that fly these jets that well, deserve our respect... except "our" enermies

also, its against the "rules" to fly above the specators in the EU... isnt this the same in the US?

**CingularDuality** · 03-05-2006, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Overlag

yeah i guess.... I mean all these guys that fly these jets that well, deserve our respect... except "our" enermies

Indeed.

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also, its against the "rules" to fly above the specators in the EU... isnt this the same in the US?

Yeah, most of their demonstrations are above empty airfield, but they definitely fly over the spectators, too!

aesop rock · 03-05-2006, 06:55 PM

Don't forget there are newer, slower planes too.

**Overlag** · 03-06-2006, 07:44 PM

ok ok i take it all back

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1006881/M/

:wow:

icky · 03-06-2006, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Overlag

ok ok i take it all back

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1006881/M/

:wow:

Heheh... now I'm in AWE of the guy who got that photo!

**Magnum50** · 05-06-2006, 02:51 PM

Check out these series of video clips showing a civilian taking a flight with the Blue Angels... some good incidents in there.

http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/met...ra/blueangels/

jex · 05-09-2006, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by icky

Y'know, these videos leave me wishing I could see something more intense, like simulated jet dogfighting.

Grab falcon AF and come join us.

The Red Arrows use the Hawk Trainer which is a surprisingly capable AC. It can pull around the same amount of G's as an F16. That video was a bit naff really - I'm wondering if they had to do a 'flat' show (crappy weather in the UK makes things a bit more difficult). They used to practice over my grans when I was a kid and did much better stuff than that.

jex · 05-09-2006, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Overlag

ok ok i take it all back

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1006881/M/

:wow:

take what back

http://www.raf.mod.uk/reds/images/fanspics0502.jpg

http://www.raf.mod.uk/reds/images/fanspics0544.jpg

http://www.raf.mod.uk/reds/images/fanspics0525.jpg

03-04-2006, 08:20 PM	#17 (permalink)
munchkin Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Sydney, Australia Age: 17 Posts: 2,271	Re: The Red Arrows If you guys want more videos, check this site out: http://www.patricksaviation.com/ It eats up more and more of my bandwidth each month. __________________ [conduct][volun][drill][sg-c1][tpf-c1] \|TG-2nd\|munchkin Nec aspera terrent.

03-05-2006, 06:55 PM	#22 (permalink)
aesop rock Join Date: May 2005 Location: Olympia, WA Age: 27 Posts: 319	Re: The Red Arrows Don't forget there are newer, slower planes too. __________________ "Who put the fun in dysfunctional? I." - Aesop Rock (http://www.mushrecords.com/release.php?REAID=38) "Cuz you can choose to say 'Good morning, God' or 'Good God.. morning!" -Blackalicious It is my firm belief that, until we humans stop using human nature as an excuse for our actions, we will never realize our true nature.

03-06-2006, 07:44 PM	#23 (permalink)
Overlag Join Date: May 2003 Location: NE Outer London, UK Age: 26 Posts: 1,540	Re: The Red Arrows ok ok i take it all back http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1006881/M/ :wow: __________________ From Adam Webb

05-06-2006, 02:51 PM	#25 (permalink)
Magnum50 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Naples, Florida USA Age: 42 Posts: 4,002	vids of "G force w/ Blue Angels"... Check out these series of video clips showing a civilian taking a flight with the Blue Angels... some good incidents in there. http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/met...ra/blueangels/ __________________ Magnum www.gettacticaldammit.com

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