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  1. 06-26-2006, 12:30 PM #1
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    Lingo: "Frag" instead of "Kill"

    This is just a request to all of the TG community. I have seen many a post (mine included) where we talk about "killing" this or that. I've been thinking long and hard about this and think using the term "frag/fragging" helps our image as gamers, as a community ( I feel its more appropriate ), and helps alleviate rash behaviors ( if there are any caused by such ). We play games here, and even though we opt for the most simulation and realistic experience and hold true to the Primar, I think using Frag helps detach games from reality.

    I'm not forcing this on anyone, but I feel if one or two major community contributors started using Frag instead of Kill, it could really catch on.

    Thoughts? Am I completely bonkers here? Is this a realistic change?
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    Re: Lingo: "Frag" instead of "Kill"

    Doesn't 'frag' suggest some sort of explosive kill?
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    Re: Lingo: "Frag" instead of "Kill"

    "Killmonkey" just doesn't have the right ring, does it?
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    Re: Lingo: "Frag" instead of "Kill"

    Quote Originally Posted by squeak
    This is just a request to all of the TG community. I have seen many a post (mine included) where we talk about "killing" this or that. I've been thinking long and hard about this and think using the term "frag/fragging" helps our image as gamers, as a community ( I feel its more appropriate ), and helps alleviate rash behaviors ( if there are any caused by such ). We play games here, and even though we opt for the most simulation and realistic experience and hold true to the Primar, I think using Frag helps detach games from reality.

    I'm not forcing this on anyone, but I feel if one or two major community contributors started using Frag instead of Kill, it could really catch on.

    Thoughts? Am I completely bonkers here? Is this a realistic change?

    What sort of rash behaviors would you be alleviating? I think we are all mature/responsible individuals here and think we can keep the political correctness to a minimum. I don't see what it would do. JMHO
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    Re: Lingo: "Frag" instead of "Kill"

    Odd request - what? You tryin' to get TG members 'hip'? Next thing ya know we'll all be l33t playahz.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wyzcrak
    Doesn't 'frag' suggest some sort of explosive kill?
    Nahh.. it's pretty much any kill anymore.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mateo
    "Killmonkey" just doesn't have the right ring, does it?
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    No.. don't think so..





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    Re: Lingo: "Frag" instead of "Kill"

    Quote Originally Posted by Drizzid
    What sort of rash behaviors would you be alleviating? I think we are all mature/responsible individuals here and think we can keep the political correctness to a minimum. I don't see what it would do. JMHO
    I think he's saying this to combat the ppl who talk about how bad games are.. like the Daily Show piece. I'm for not being politacally correct, tho.
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    Re: Lingo: "Frag" instead of "Kill"

    I prefer "slaughter."
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    Re: Lingo: "Frag" instead of "Kill"

    Trust me.. My X-gf (who doesnt hold grudges.. i promise you that) heard me say that i was going t kill someone (in a game, of course)... she called the police and they took me in because I said that... It was her word against mine. Eventually.. many months and dollars later, it was settled without going to court. I wonder if it would have changed if I had said Frag instead... because more people know what kill means, but dont know wha frag means... for all they know it's a sexual slander.

    I would really try to get the community to try to start saying Frag :\ It WOULD help.
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    Re: Lingo: "Frag" instead of "Kill"

    Quote Originally Posted by SuperDudeBT
    I think he's saying this to combat the ppl who talk about how bad games are..
    This is precisely one of those reasons. Don't get me wrong though, I'm all for a slaughtering my opponent. But when I try to explain to family or friends or the fiance that I just "fragged" an opponent online it gets understood and accepted easier then if I tell them I just killed a bunch of players.
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    Re: Lingo: "Frag" instead of "Kill"

    The funny thing is, you have not really "killed" anyone. You removed them from the game environment temporarily, but no real physical harm was done.

    In a sense, our vocabulary doesn't really contend well with virtual death: we retain the vestigaes of old warlike vocabulary ("I killed you!") when that player is perfectly free to respawn and rejoin after a short period, or at the beginning of next round.

    Then again, getting "reset" just doesn't have that ring to it, you know?
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    Re: Lingo: "Frag" instead of "Kill"

    Quote Originally Posted by squeak
    This is precisely one of those reasons. Don't get me wrong though, I'm all for a slaughtering my opponent. But when I try to explain to family or friends or the fiance that I just "fragged" an opponent online it gets understood and accepted easier then if I tell them I just killed a bunch of players.
    I guess it is to each their own. If you are comfortable with using "Frag/Fragged" then go for it.
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    Re: Lingo: "Frag" instead of "Kill"

    Quote Originally Posted by Wyzcrak
    Doesn't 'frag' suggest some sort of explosive kill?
    I'm going to use 'gib' for that
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    Re: Lingo: "Frag" instead of "Kill"

    A "frag" is just the short name for a fragmentation grenade. "M-26 pineapple"

    IIRC, the phrase has been around since at least WW1.

    The term gained popularity in Vietnam (according to wiki).

    I don't know why gamers have adopted it as the applicable word for in-game killing of someone, it really only applies in those "made by a nade" situations.
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    Re: Lingo: "Frag" instead of "Kill"

    Quote Originally Posted by Sniper
    Trust me.. My X-gf (who doesnt hold grudges.. i promise you that) heard me say that i was going t kill someone (in a game, of course)... she called the police and they took me in because I said that... It was her word against mine. Eventually.. many months and dollars later, it was settled without going to court. I wonder if it would have changed if I had said Frag instead... because more people know what kill means, but dont know wha frag means... for all they know it's a sexual slander.

    I would really try to get the community to try to start saying Frag :\ It WOULD help.
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    Re: Lingo: "Frag" instead of "Kill"

    Quote Originally Posted by mateo
    The funny thing is, you have not really "killed" anyone. You removed them from the game environment temporarily, but no real physical harm was done.

    Technically you didn't actually 'shoot' the guy either. And you didn't jump in the Vodnik.
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