Black Hat 2006 - DEFCON 14

**Apophis** · 07-24-2006, 04:24 PM

Next week I head out to Las Vegas for both Black Hat 2006 and DEFCON 14. I remember some talk last year that some other TG'ers may have attended one or both of these events. I'm going to be staying at Caesars during the Black Hat Briefings and then moving over to the Hard Rock for DEFCON and a couple days of R&R at the end. We thought about staying at the Riviera for DEFCON, but ended up getting a great deal at the Hard Rock. Not to mention that HR has that whole Rehab thing on Sundays by the pool. Nothing quite like getting shooters delivered in big syringes.

Is anyone else going this year?

Black Hat Briefings Info
DEFCON 14 Info

**Rincewind** · 07-24-2006, 05:32 PM

That just sounds sweet.

**Apophis** · 08-01-2006, 12:44 PM

Well, I'm headed out in a couple hours! I'll be checking in every now and then, but will be largely MIA until next Tuesday!

**Wyzcrak** · 08-01-2006, 12:45 PM

Safe travel.

**Wimpinator** · 08-01-2006, 01:11 PM

You're just going so you can learn how to do this: http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/8231/carsad4.jpg

Have a safe trip. Post an AAR when you get back please. I have always wanted to go to one of these things.

**Acid** · 08-01-2006, 01:57 PM

That looks like so much fun! Reading the definition of a hacker page was like reading my own autobiography

.

Beatnik · 08-01-2006, 02:57 PM

I'm jealous on many levels. An AAR will be necessary!

icky · 08-01-2006, 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beatnik

I'm jealous on many levels. An AAR will be necessary!

Wouldn't that go against the premise of "What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas"?

**Apophis** · 08-03-2006, 06:40 PM

The conference has been quite good so far. There have been some interesting things going on in the world of AJAX and RSS feeds and some relatively interesting ways of infecting large masses of people via RSS/ATOM without their knowledge. The ante has been stepped up in many regards when it comes to compromising end user workstations.

A bit of time was spent addressing those users that think they don't need antivirus or firewalls and are too smart to get nailed by some of these various exploits and how naive that really is. At the same time, many of these exploits won't be picked up by AV/FW applications anyway.

There was a really good session on hacking World of Warcraft. The session was really about advanced rootkit development, but the presenter has done a lot of work with WoW specfically and has written exploits that get around The Warden using various methods of offloading parts of the exploit to slave servers, memory and application cloaking, and venturing into machine space (Ring 0) that developers like Blizzard most likely won't venture into in order to detect these exploits and cheats.

I have two more sessions to attend today for Black Hat and then have the night off. DEFCON starts tomorrow.

On another note; Late last night I had the opportunity to play with one of the Kiosks in the hotel/casino we're staying in and managed to get through the UI and interact with the OS sitting behind it (Windows, of course). I was able to get pretty deep into the network with only a few minutes once I breached the UI. I would love to play with that a little more tonight, but in all honesty; futzing with this type of stuff on the Casino floor seems a bit dangerous. I might poke around a little more and see how far into the network I can get, but it's difficult to navigate when the only interface available into the system is a touch-screen display.

As I'm already late for my next session, I must be off. I'll try and get on and report a little more this evening.

perry · 08-03-2006, 06:48 PM

Ever get that Orinoco card to work?

**Apophis** · 08-03-2006, 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by perry

Ever get that Orinoco card to work?

Not under Windows 2000. It runs under XP fine on my other laptop. But I managed to pick up a new copy of the Auditor LiveCD which had everything I needed on it, so I did eventually get the thing working. I also have a Prism2 card with me that works under Windows 2000 but I get much better results using the Orinoco card with proper drivers.

perry · 08-03-2006, 06:59 PM

Try one of these two.. You disappeared from IRC before I finished uploading.
http://www.tacticalsites.com/~perry/wlan-driver.zip
http://www.tacticalsites.com/~perry/...s_sr02-2.3.zip

I think the first is an earlier version of the second.. The first includes a client manager that works with Gold and Silver cards..

Code:

===================================================================
Agere Systems                                              SR02-2.3
NDIS 5.x Miniport Drivers                   Variant 1 Version: 7.82
These driver are for Win98, Win98 SE, WinME, Win2K and WinXP
===================================================================

This README.TXT covers information that was not yet known or
available when the user documentation shipped with this product
was written. It includes update information, additional
installation instructions, limitations to the current version of
the product, and suggestions to solve known issues or problems.

TABLE OF CONTENTS.

1.  SOFTWARE DESCRIPTION
2.  SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS
3.  NEW IN THIS RELEASE
4.  INSTALLATION NOTES
5.  TECHNICAL CONSTRAINTS
6.  KNOWN ISSUES
7.  TECHNICAL SUPPORT

-------------------------------------------------------------------

1.  SOFTWARE DESCRIPTION

1.1 About this software
    This Driver supports the following network interface cards:
     * "Wireless PC Card Model 0104"
     * "Wireless PC Card Model 0106"
     * "Wireless Integrated Card Model 0202"
     * "Wireless Embedded Card Model 0504"
     * "Wireless PCI Adapter Model 0901"
     * "Wireless USB Card Model 0801"
     * "Wireless USB Card Model 0802"
     * "Wireless PC Card Model 0110"
     * "Wireless PC Card Model 0111"
     * "Wireless PC Card Model 0114"
     * "Wireless CompactFlash Card Model 1401"
     * "Wireless Mini PCI Card Model 0506"
     * "Wireless Mini PCI Card Model 0508"
     * "Wireless Mini PCI Card Model 0509"
     * "Wireless Mini PCI Card Model 0511"
     * "Wireless Cardbus Card Model 1102"
     * "Wireless Mini PCI Card Model 0512"
     * "Onair PC Card (INT)"
     * "Onair PC Card (EMB)"
     * "Avaya Wireless PC Card"
     * "NCR WaveLAN/IEEE PC Card"
     * "Avaya Wireless USB Card"
     * "BUFFALO WLI-PCM-L11/GP Wireless LAN Adapter"
     * "BUFFALO WLI-PCM-L11G Wireless LAN Adapter"
     * "BUFFALO WLI-USB-L11 Wireless LAN Adapter"
     * "BUFFALO WLI-USB-L11G Wireless LAN Adapter"
     * "BUFFALO WLI-PCM-L11GP Wireless LAN Adapter"
     * "D-Link Air DWL-660 Wireless PC Card"
     * "ELSA AirLancer MC-11"
     * "ELSA Vianect WLAN MC-11"
     * "ELSA AirLancer USB-11"
     * "LANCOM Systems AirLancer MC-11"
     * "RoamAbout 802.11 DS"
     * "RoamAbout 802.11 DS (Enterasys)"
     * "IBM High Rate Wireless LAN PC Card"
     * "IBM High Rate Wireless LAN Mini PCI Card"
     * "IBM Internal High Rate Wireless LAN PC Card"
     * "SKYWARD PC Card"
     * "Joynet WLAN PC Card"
     * "Joynet WLAN USB Card"
     * "ORiNOCO PC Card (5 volt)"
     * "ORiNOCO Mini PCI Card"
     * "ORiNOCO Integrated Card"
     * "ORiNOCO PCI Card"
     * "ORiNOCO USB Card"
     * "Toshiba Wireless LAN Card"
     * "Toshiba Wireless LAN Mini PCI Card"
     * "NEC Corporation Wireless PC Card"
     * "WARPSTAR WL11C (PC-WL/11C)"
     * "Samsung SEW-2001p Card"
     * "Samsung SEW-2001m Card"
     * "Samsung SEW-2001u Card"
     * "Samsung SEW-2003U Card"
     * "I-GATE 11M PC Card"
     * "I-GATE 11M USB Card"
     * "802.11b Wireless LAN Adapter(A)"
     * "connect2AIR WLAN E-1100 PC-Card"
     * "connect2AIR WLAN E-1100 USB"
     * "2Wire Wireless PC Card"
     * "2Wire Wireless USB adapter"
     * "WLAN PC Card"
     * "WLAN Integrated Card"
     * "WLAN Embedded Card"
     * "WLAN USB Card"

**Apophis** · 08-03-2006, 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by perry

Try one of these two.. You disappeared from IRC before I finished uploading.
http://www.tacticalsites.com/~perry/wlan-driver.zip
http://www.tacticalsites.com/~perry/...s_sr02-2.3.zip

Excellent. I'll try and get them downloaded for DEFCON. The wireless access in the conference rooms died when I tried swapping out the cards, so I never was able to get back on until I got up to my hotel room.

**CingularDuality** · 08-04-2006, 04:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Apophis

A bit of time was spent addressing those users that think they don't need antivirus or firewalls and are too smart to get nailed by some of these various exploits and how naive that really is. At the same time, many of these exploits won't be picked up by AV/FW applications anyway.

Ugh...

Don't try to frighten us...

Seriously, I've always thought that my greatest defense against an actual hacker is my anonymity and lack of valuable information. The firewall and AV software that I run is just to keep out the "script kiddies" and to prevent DDOS/distributed payload nasties from infecting my PC. Are you saying that there are more precautions that I should be taking? Should I be worried?

icky · 08-04-2006, 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CingularDuality

Should I be worried?

You should always be worried. Don't you watch the news? The Apocalypse is coming!

07-24-2006, 04:24 PM	#1 (permalink)
Apophis Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Rhode Island, USA Age: 36 Posts: 8,917	Black Hat 2006 - DEFCON 14 Next week I head out to Las Vegas for both Black Hat 2006 and DEFCON 14. I remember some talk last year that some other TG'ers may have attended one or both of these events. I'm going to be staying at Caesars during the Black Hat Briefings and then moving over to the Hard Rock for DEFCON and a couple days of R&R at the end. We thought about staying at the Riviera for DEFCON, but ended up getting a great deal at the Hard Rock. Not to mention that HR has that whole Rehab thing on Sundays by the pool. Nothing quite like getting shooters delivered in big syringes. Is anyone else going this year? Black Hat Briefings Info DEFCON 14 Info __________________ Diplomacy is the art of saying "good doggie" while looking for a bigger stick.

07-24-2006, 05:32 PM	#2 (permalink)
Rincewind Join Date: May 2005 Location: Casting useless spells in Oklahoma. Age: 27 Posts: 2,777	Re: Black Hat 2006 - DEFCON 14 That just sounds sweet. __________________ ~~ Veritas simplex oratio est ~~ No matter how far a wizard goes, he will always come back for his hat. --T. Pratchett <---- You know you're getting old when you rely on your forum meta-data to remind you how old you are. Required Reading for all TG sandboxers

08-01-2006, 12:44 PM	#3 (permalink)
Apophis Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Rhode Island, USA Age: 36 Posts: 8,917	Re: Black Hat 2006 - DEFCON 14 Well, I'm headed out in a couple hours! I'll be checking in every now and then, but will be largely MIA until next Tuesday! __________________ Diplomacy is the art of saying "good doggie" while looking for a bigger stick.

08-01-2006, 12:45 PM	#4 (permalink)
Wyzcrak Join Date: May 2003 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 14,139	Re: Black Hat 2006 - DEFCON 14 Safe travel. __________________ Steam Community? Add me. \| Join #tacticalgamer \| Search Results Legend \| New Posts Forum Filter \| Postbox Toggle \| Live Thread Review \| One Line Results \| Free Remote, Encrypted Backup Darkilla: In short, NS is pretty much really fast chess. With guns. Apophis: I haven't seen anyone say that SM's are better than non-SMs. Nordbomber: This is THE first server I've seen where either side can comeback from out of seemingly nowhere with the right teamwork. en4rcment: I have NEVER experienced the type of gameplay that I have found here. Nightly I am amazed at the personalities and gaming talent. Root: Welcome to TG. Feel free to punctuate your sentences correctly. Monkerz: Its gonna take all my skills to beat those boys off in the future.

08-01-2006, 01:11 PM	#5 (permalink)
Wimpinator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: United states, TN Age: 35 Posts: 2,893	Re: Black Hat 2006 - DEFCON 14 You're just going so you can learn how to do this: http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/8231/carsad4.jpg Have a safe trip. Post an AAR when you get back please. I have always wanted to go to one of these things. __________________ \|TG-6th\|Wimpinator BF2 Rules and SOP's\|Teamspeak information\|TG on IRC

08-01-2006, 01:57 PM	#6 (permalink)
Acid Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: MA Posts: 3,581	Re: Black Hat 2006 - DEFCON 14 That looks like so much fun! Reading the definition of a hacker page was like reading my own autobiography . __________________

08-01-2006, 02:57 PM	#7 (permalink)
Beatnik Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Austin, TX Age: 33 Posts: 4,320	Re: Black Hat 2006 - DEFCON 14 I'm jealous on many levels. An AAR will be necessary! __________________ -F- Beatnik

08-03-2006, 06:40 PM	#9 (permalink)
Apophis Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Rhode Island, USA Age: 36 Posts: 8,917	Re: Black Hat 2006 - DEFCON 14 The conference has been quite good so far. There have been some interesting things going on in the world of AJAX and RSS feeds and some relatively interesting ways of infecting large masses of people via RSS/ATOM without their knowledge. The ante has been stepped up in many regards when it comes to compromising end user workstations. A bit of time was spent addressing those users that think they don't need antivirus or firewalls and are too smart to get nailed by some of these various exploits and how naive that really is. At the same time, many of these exploits won't be picked up by AV/FW applications anyway. There was a really good session on hacking World of Warcraft. The session was really about advanced rootkit development, but the presenter has done a lot of work with WoW specfically and has written exploits that get around The Warden using various methods of offloading parts of the exploit to slave servers, memory and application cloaking, and venturing into machine space (Ring 0) that developers like Blizzard most likely won't venture into in order to detect these exploits and cheats. I have two more sessions to attend today for Black Hat and then have the night off. DEFCON starts tomorrow. On another note; Late last night I had the opportunity to play with one of the Kiosks in the hotel/casino we're staying in and managed to get through the UI and interact with the OS sitting behind it (Windows, of course). I was able to get pretty deep into the network with only a few minutes once I breached the UI. I would love to play with that a little more tonight, but in all honesty; futzing with this type of stuff on the Casino floor seems a bit dangerous. I might poke around a little more and see how far into the network I can get, but it's difficult to navigate when the only interface available into the system is a touch-screen display. As I'm already late for my next session, I must be off. I'll try and get on and report a little more this evening. __________________ Diplomacy is the art of saying "good doggie" while looking for a bigger stick.

08-03-2006, 06:48 PM	#10 (permalink)
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