Red Orchestra: Four Days of Freedom

TychoCelchuuu · 12-02-2006, 12:08 PM

Red Orchestra is one of the best realistic shooters on the market today. Begun as a mod for Unreal Tournament, the developers won the "Make Something Unreal" contest and acquired a license for the Unreal engine. Fast forward a few years, and they've now released Red Orchestra: Ostfront 41-45, the standalone game available over Steam that recreates the war between Russia and Germany. Full of squad-level infantry action, combined arms assaults with tanks, transports, and infantry, and tank-on-tank engagements that take place over gigantic battlefields, ROO is up there with Operation Flashpoint, Ghost Recon, and Rainbow 6 when it comes to realistic first person shooters.

RO never caught on very much at TG; its fatal flaw was that it was not Battlefield 2. I think you'll agree that this is a problem that a lot of games have, not just Red Orchestra, so if you can overlook the fact that all the nice things that BF2 does for you somehow aren't present in World War 2 (gee, really?) you'll probably find that RO is right up your alley. It does, however, cost 20 bucks. Now if you're like me (you're not but for the sake of the argument let's assume you are), you don't just drop 20 bucks on a game without any info. You could check GameRankings.com where ROO is holding steady at 78% (not too shabby for a brutally realistic game that's almost impossible to play withotu teamwork and tactics), or you could check Metacritic where it has garnered itself a respectable 81 (and that's factoring in G4's retarded score of 40), or you could even find out what the revered Dslyecxi thought about the game right before it came out, but seriously, who cares what other people think? You (yes, you!) can find out exactly what RO is like in the upcoming FREE TRIAL! Yep, from December 7th (next Thursday) to December 10th (Thursday Friday Saturday... guess that's Sunday then), the full version of Red Orchestra is yours to download and play over Steam. It might be swarming with noobs that weekened, but you'll get a good idea of what the game is like. In fact, you don't even have to wait. You can preload the thing now so you're ready to play when the time comes.

Click here to preload Red Orchestra!*

*That actually takes you to the Steam page, with a button that lets you preload it. So you're going to have to click twice. Just like you have to click twice when you fire a bolt action rifle, once to fire and once to bolt it. That way you can decide not to bolt it if you want to stab someone with a bayonet real fats. Realism, baby.

Lorian · 12-02-2006, 12:11 PM

Nice, I have wanted to try out Red Orchestra, but there was never any demo. Not being able to try it = not buying it.

EDIT: Sweet, apparently it runs well on Wine.

=Sarc= · 12-02-2006, 01:43 PM

I don't play it that much but it is a very good game. I think it is similar to BF1942 though. You have "reinforcements" that's similar to Battlefield's ticket system. There are some maps with vehicles. You can pick classes but they are restricted so you don't get a team full of snipers. There are objectives to take similar to flag capping.

The differences make it better. The maps are smaller and more infantry oriented. The sounds put you into the game. Bullets whiz by and blur your vision. Grenades ring your ears. Attacking teams must achieve their objectives for tactical advantages (access to artillery) or even to win. Most of all, you can lean!!

Paperchase · 12-02-2006, 02:04 PM

Yes, it's another free trial for RO. There was a demo, back in the summer I believe.

**gunjunkie** · 12-02-2006, 03:09 PM

This is a great, atmospheric game. I wish more people at TG played it.

tux · 12-05-2006, 01:57 PM

thx for adding the news here

i hope there will be some players about that weekend, i'll check the TS for some company. maybe some mates follow.

**Trooper** · 12-05-2006, 02:22 PM

TG doesnt have servers anymore. To many people complained it wasnt like BF2 so they dint try it out. I enjoyed it but for as new of a game it lacked the graphical experience that other games of the same genre out now. And it was such a resource hog, just dint run good.

Id gladly reinstall to retry it out if we could find a good server to play.

TychoCelchuuu · 12-05-2006, 03:16 PM

The quality of servers really varies depending on who's playing. I've had great games and average games on the same server at the same time of day. It's overall a lot better than BF2 or something, because most of the people who buy a game like this are into teamwork and cooperation instead of dolphin diving and UCB camping, but you know how it is.

**Vodkatonic** · 12-05-2006, 04:19 PM

I still play, they recently released a patch with new vehicles and new maps.

**CingularDuality** · 12-05-2006, 10:58 PM

I might be able to jump into a few games on Saturday...

**RGM-79N_GM_CUstom** · 12-06-2006, 06:56 PM

We could try pubbing.

**gunjunkie** · 12-06-2006, 07:33 PM

I do occasionally, its a bit hit and miss, but sometimes you get a good team who are communicating and working together.

Bommando · 12-06-2006, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by TychoCelchuuu

It's overall a lot better than BF2 or something, because most of the people who buy a game like this are into teamwork and cooperation instead of dolphin diving and UCB camping, but you know how it is.

I'd avoid snide references like this in relation to BF2. Some people like games for different reasons.

By all means promote RO, but try to do it without putting down the BF2 population. There are a lot of valid reasons why even hardcore simulation players didn't like RO, but this thread is not the place to fight over which game is better and why.

Keep banging the drum, just stop bashing the others.

TychoCelchuuu · 12-06-2006, 11:31 PM

Ahem, I've put far more hours into BF2 and its mods and expansions than I ever have or probably ever will put into Red Orchestra. By their nature, though, they attract different players. BF2's ranking system, extreme popularity, and easy play mechanics attract all sorts of people, from stats whores to sim gamers to team players to people who just want to shoot at other people. Red Orchestra attracts realism buffs and squad shooter fans. I've joined plenty of Battlefield servers where half the players are loading up jihad jeeps and driving out of spawn, running over allies on the way, and the other half are camping the helicopter spawn point. I've joined other BF servers where people C4 up the jets if they don't get them and detonate their allies, or grab the tanks and drive straight into the enemy's UCB to spawn camp.

Compare that to Red Orchestra, where every vehicle is basically useless unless you've got a teammate or two who communicates with you through voice chat, where you're never going to take down more than two or three people at a time with a bolt action rifle unless you have teammates working with you, and where covering fire and one hit kills mean you can never make a move unless you've considered it or plan on getting killed, and you can see why the kind of people who play RO are much more likely to be gung-ho coordination types than drive into the enemy tank with C4 types.

Just like Ghost Recon, America's Army, Natural Selection, and Operation Flashpoint are usually full of team players who like to communicate compared to Counterstrike: Source, Unreal Tournament, and Quake 3, which are full of fragmonkeys who scream at you for stealing their kills or using camping like a n3wb, RO lends itself to people who cooperate whereas BF2 lends itself to people who TK for fun and punish accidental TKs.

Bommando · 12-06-2006, 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TychoCelchuuu

Ahem, I've put far more hours into BF2 and its mods and expansions than I ever have or probably ever will put into Red Orchestra. By their nature, though, they attract different players. BF2's ranking system, extreme popularity, and easy play mechanics attract all sorts of people, from stats whores to sim gamers to team players to people who just want to shoot at other people. Red Orchestra attracts realism buffs and squad shooter fans. I've joined plenty of Battlefield servers where half the players are loading up jihad jeeps and driving out of spawn, running over allies on the way, and the other half are camping the helicopter spawn point. I've joined other BF servers where people C4 up the jets if they don't get them and detonate their allies, or grab the tanks and drive straight into the enemy's UCB to spawn camp.

Compare that to Red Orchestra, where every vehicle is basically useless unless you've got a teammate or two who communicates with you through voice chat, where you're never going to take down more than two or three people at a time with a bolt action rifle unless you have teammates working with you, and where covering fire and one hit kills mean you can never make a move unless you've considered it or plan on getting killed, and you can see why the kind of people who play RO are much more likely to be gung-ho coordination types than drive into the enemy tank with C4 types.

Just like Ghost Recon, America's Army, Natural Selection, and Operation Flashpoint are usually full of team players who like to communicate compared to Counterstrike: Source, Unreal Tournament, and Quake 3, which are full of fragmonkeys who scream at you for stealing their kills or using camping like a n3wb, RO lends itself to people who cooperate whereas BF2 lends itself to people who TK for fun and punish accidental TKs.

There you go again. I am sure you wouldn't be happy if people who didn't like RO polluted this thread with their bad experiences. All I am asking is that you avoid sweeping generalisations.

I am really trying to refrain from stating my reasons for not liking RO (they aren't because I'm a smacktard) because I encourage any TG player to diversify their gaming and I am sure that many people will love this game. Slamming BF2 is not the way you should be trying to promote RO, just as slamming 'realism' games would not be the best way to promote BF2.

12-02-2006, 12:08 PM	#1 (permalink)
TychoCelchuuu Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Seattle, WA Age: 19 Posts: 1,776	Red Orchestra: Four Days of Freedom Red Orchestra is one of the best realistic shooters on the market today. Begun as a mod for Unreal Tournament, the developers won the "Make Something Unreal" contest and acquired a license for the Unreal engine. Fast forward a few years, and they've now released Red Orchestra: Ostfront 41-45, the standalone game available over Steam that recreates the war between Russia and Germany. Full of squad-level infantry action, combined arms assaults with tanks, transports, and infantry, and tank-on-tank engagements that take place over gigantic battlefields, ROO is up there with Operation Flashpoint, Ghost Recon, and Rainbow 6 when it comes to realistic first person shooters. RO never caught on very much at TG; its fatal flaw was that it was not Battlefield 2. I think you'll agree that this is a problem that a lot of games have, not just Red Orchestra, so if you can overlook the fact that all the nice things that BF2 does for you somehow aren't present in World War 2 (gee, really?) you'll probably find that RO is right up your alley. It does, however, cost 20 bucks. Now if you're like me (you're not but for the sake of the argument let's assume you are), you don't just drop 20 bucks on a game without any info. You could check GameRankings.com where ROO is holding steady at 78% (not too shabby for a brutally realistic game that's almost impossible to play withotu teamwork and tactics), or you could check Metacritic where it has garnered itself a respectable 81 (and that's factoring in G4's retarded score of 40), or you could even find out what the revered Dslyecxi thought about the game right before it came out, but seriously, who cares what other people think? You (yes, you!) can find out exactly what RO is like in the upcoming FREE TRIAL! Yep, from December 7th (next Thursday) to December 10th (Thursday Friday Saturday... guess that's Sunday then), the full version of Red Orchestra is yours to download and play over Steam. It might be swarming with noobs that weekened, but you'll get a good idea of what the game is like. In fact, you don't even have to wait. You can preload the thing now so you're ready to play when the time comes. Click here to preload Red Orchestra!* *That actually takes you to the Steam page, with a button that lets you preload it. So you're going to have to click twice. Just like you have to click twice when you fire a bolt action rifle, once to fire and once to bolt it. That way you can decide not to bolt it if you want to stab someone with a bayonet real fats. Realism, baby. __________________ \|TG-Irr\|TychoCelchuuu

12-02-2006, 12:11 PM	#2 (permalink)
Lorian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: United Kingdom Age: 18 Posts: 2,036	Re: Red Orchestra: Four Days of Freedom Nice, I have wanted to try out Red Orchestra, but there was never any demo. Not being able to try it = not buying it. EDIT: Sweet, apparently it runs well on Wine. __________________ \|TG-E17th\|Lorian Member since 18th February 2006 Supporting member since 4th August 2006 PGP public key Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo E6420 Memory: 2x 1GB Corsair XMS2 DDR2-800 RAM Video Card: XFX NVIDIA GeForce 6800 XT 256MB Monitor: 17" Dell CRT and 15" generic LCD Sound Card: Creative X-Fi Xtrememusic and Creative Sound Blaster Live! (no Linux X-Fi drivers yet) Last edited by Lorian; 12-02-2006 at 12:32 PM.

12-02-2006, 01:43 PM	#3 (permalink)
=Sarc= Join Date: May 2003 Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 4,431	Re: Red Orchestra: Four Days of Freedom I don't play it that much but it is a very good game. I think it is similar to BF1942 though. You have "reinforcements" that's similar to Battlefield's ticket system. There are some maps with vehicles. You can pick classes but they are restricted so you don't get a team full of snipers. There are objectives to take similar to flag capping. The differences make it better. The maps are smaller and more infantry oriented. The sounds put you into the game. Bullets whiz by and blur your vision. Grenades ring your ears. Attacking teams must achieve their objectives for tactical advantages (access to artillery) or even to win. Most of all, you can lean!! __________________ JO Guides & Tutorials Team Element - It's who you game with.

12-02-2006, 02:04 PM	#4 (permalink)
Paperchase Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Island of Tonal Age: 16 Posts: 285	Re: Red Orchestra: Four Days of Freedom Yes, it's another free trial for RO. There was a demo, back in the summer I believe. __________________ \|TG-Irr\|Paperchase

12-02-2006, 03:09 PM	#5 (permalink)
gunjunkie Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Palo Alto, CA Posts: 1,277	Re: Red Orchestra: Four Days of Freedom This is a great, atmospheric game. I wish more people at TG played it. __________________ Do or do not, there is no try.... -- Yoda, Dagobah

12-05-2006, 01:57 PM	#6 (permalink)
tux Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Munich, Bavaria, Germany Posts: 4	Re: Red Orchestra: Four Days of Freedom thx for adding the news here i hope there will be some players about that weekend, i'll check the TS for some company. maybe some mates follow.

12-05-2006, 02:22 PM	#7 (permalink)
Trooper Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In my wifes house......if she says i can Age: 25 Posts: 8,376	Re: Red Orchestra: Four Days of Freedom TG doesnt have servers anymore. To many people complained it wasnt like BF2 so they dint try it out. I enjoyed it but for as new of a game it lacked the graphical experience that other games of the same genre out now. And it was such a resource hog, just dint run good. Id gladly reinstall to retry it out if we could find a good server to play.

12-05-2006, 03:16 PM	#8 (permalink)
TychoCelchuuu Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Seattle, WA Age: 19 Posts: 1,776	Re: Red Orchestra: Four Days of Freedom The quality of servers really varies depending on who's playing. I've had great games and average games on the same server at the same time of day. It's overall a lot better than BF2 or something, because most of the people who buy a game like this are into teamwork and cooperation instead of dolphin diving and UCB camping, but you know how it is. __________________ \|TG-Irr\|TychoCelchuuu

12-05-2006, 04:19 PM	#9 (permalink)
Vodkatonic Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Tustin,CA Age: 38 Posts: 244	Re: Red Orchestra: Four Days of Freedom I still play, they recently released a patch with new vehicles and new maps. __________________ "If the sword is always sheathed, it will become rusty, the blade will dull, and people will think as much of its owner." —Yamamoto Tsunetomo, Hagakure: The Book of the Samurai

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12-06-2006, 07:33 PM	#12 (permalink)
gunjunkie Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Palo Alto, CA Posts: 1,277	Re: Red Orchestra: Four Days of Freedom I do occasionally, its a bit hit and miss, but sometimes you get a good team who are communicating and working together. __________________ Do or do not, there is no try.... -- Yoda, Dagobah

12-06-2006, 11:31 PM	#14 (permalink)
TychoCelchuuu Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Seattle, WA Age: 19 Posts: 1,776	Re: Red Orchestra: Four Days of Freedom Ahem, I've put far more hours into BF2 and its mods and expansions than I ever have or probably ever will put into Red Orchestra. By their nature, though, they attract different players. BF2's ranking system, extreme popularity, and easy play mechanics attract all sorts of people, from stats whores to sim gamers to team players to people who just want to shoot at other people. Red Orchestra attracts realism buffs and squad shooter fans. I've joined plenty of Battlefield servers where half the players are loading up jihad jeeps and driving out of spawn, running over allies on the way, and the other half are camping the helicopter spawn point. I've joined other BF servers where people C4 up the jets if they don't get them and detonate their allies, or grab the tanks and drive straight into the enemy's UCB to spawn camp. Compare that to Red Orchestra, where every vehicle is basically useless unless you've got a teammate or two who communicates with you through voice chat, where you're never going to take down more than two or three people at a time with a bolt action rifle unless you have teammates working with you, and where covering fire and one hit kills mean you can never make a move unless you've considered it or plan on getting killed, and you can see why the kind of people who play RO are much more likely to be gung-ho coordination types than drive into the enemy tank with C4 types. Just like Ghost Recon, America's Army, Natural Selection, and Operation Flashpoint are usually full of team players who like to communicate compared to Counterstrike: Source, Unreal Tournament, and Quake 3, which are full of fragmonkeys who scream at you for stealing their kills or using camping like a n3wb, RO lends itself to people who cooperate whereas BF2 lends itself to people who TK for fun and punish accidental TKs. __________________ \|TG-Irr\|TychoCelchuuu Last edited by TychoCelchuuu; 12-06-2006 at 11:34 PM. Reason: Misspelled "camping"

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