Apophis

Hehehehe.. Yes, I did buy it from another collector and not from China North Industries.

There has never been a round chambered in the rifle. It was complete with the star bayonet and cleaning kit in the butt. I also got a couple cases of original Norinco 7.62 for it. Those are still sealed as well. I'll try and get a couple pics this week if I can remember.

There is a good pic of it on Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Chinese_SKS_1076.jpg

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TheFeniX

Yes, it does: on both counts. Just because a flint-lock pistol does the job it was designed for doesn't means it's practical or versatile when compared to a muzzle-loader black powder pistol. The same would be said when comparing black-powder pistols/rifles to centrefire revolvers or lever action rifles.

They aren't practical or versatile when compared to more modern weapons, which is why they were replaced in the first place.

But, this doesn't matter because when you bring up information about guns, you're really doing it to compensate for what's in your pants, right?

Anyways, what I had come back here for was to ask if anyone had any experience with the SKS because Fountain Firearms has quite a few in a crate (with bayonets, meh) for around 150 bucks. I had considered one as just a cheap rifle to screw around with. No one I know could give me any decent information about their performance and ammunition usage.

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Apophis

Who is the manufacturer on the crated rifles? I used to have a Russian model of the SKS a few years back that I put cases of shells through.

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TheFeniX

Russian I think, but I'm not positive by any stretch.

Anyways, this is pretty much what it looked like but I don't notice even much aesthetic differences between the different models.

Unfortunately, Fountain pulled their gunbroker listing for the SKS.

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Pompa

Fenix, check out This page. You should be able to find some info in his forum.
That forum is read only now but the old posts remain so I recomend you do a search there.
The new forum is here, and I'm sure they would be happy to help you.

But I wouldnt recomend that you start talking trash about the original point'n'click interface (revolver)

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TheFatKidDeath

One thing I admire about the Soviet era guns, PPSH41, SKS, AK, etc, is the simplicity of operation and the reliability.

http://world.guns.ru/assault/as49-e.htm

When I was around 17 or 18 I bought a Chinese made Type 56-1 AK with the folding stock. If I remember correctly I paid around $400-500 which included a bayonet, additional magazine, cleaning kit, sling and magazine belt and ammo. The magazine belt was green with room for a total of six magazines (?) and some small pockets on the side which held additional ammo.

From my recollection, I did not need to have a gun license just a drivers license when I purchased it. All it took was a signing a few pieces of paper, perhaps that was the gun license. I grew up in GA and gun laws during the late 80's may have not been that tight. I remember driving down to the wholesaler in my parents '76 Civic to pick it up. It was sort of a weird feeling. My parents and siblings to this day do not know that I have owned a firearm - especially a 17 or 18 year old kid. I can only imagine what would would have happened if my Mom looked underneath my bed and saw a semi-automatic rifle! Come to think of it, purchasing the gun was utterly stupid as I had no fire arms training whatsoever.

My next door neighbors owned a large plot of land in Macon, GA and I would take the gun down for rounds of shooting. I had fired guns, rifle, shotgun before but never anything with a 30 round magazine. It was loud and had quite a kick. I also remember my ears ringing from the repeat rounds.

I eventually sold it back to a gun dealer within a year or two of my purchase. I probably would not own another firearm other than something that cannot be fired and to be mounted on a wall for historicial purposes. Not that I'm opposed to owning a firearm it's somewhat impractical for where I live (damn CA and their gun control laws).

That's why something decommissioned or a replica might be for me.

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Trooper

My dad owns a russian SKS and its the most accuarate thing ever. 25 yards with the 10round clip i can have about a 6inch group. Really a great gun to have to just shoot, really cheap and fun. Only issue with it is the barrel heats up quick, so you need to take a break after 50 rounds or so.

correction its yugoslavian. Still a great gun.

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Strag

I own at least one of each of these types of firearms. I bought them because they interest me, not because I think one is "better" than another one. If your interest is only in more "modern weapons," then your appreciation of firearms sounds very limited to me. If you shoot only what you consider to be "modern" pistols (even though autoloading pistols have existed virtually unchanged in their basic action for the past 100 years or so), I'd say you're missing out. But, to each his own.



When speaking from a reloading standpoint, I think revolvers are much more versatile than semi-auto pistols. I can load the same .44 Magnum round anywhere from very low to very hot (depending on what I want to do), and it'll fire just fine from a revolver. With a semi-auto, I'm limited to the relatively narrow range of bullets and pressures that will make the gun cycle correctly (assuming I don't want to cock it every round).

Gabriel87

My dad got this gun(SKS) 2 years ago for Christmas. It looks exactly like the one in the link TheFeniX posted. He was extremely excited when he got it.

Info

• Built 1941
• All serialized parts matched
• It was packed in sawdust and oil
• In storage for 40+ years
• Bayonet folds out
• Grenade launcher attachment
• Took about 16 hours to clean completely (you’ll need paint thinner, WD-40 and dish towels)
• Make sure you clean the cleaning tool and storage area in the stock of the rifle
• It’s a 10 round clip (somehow we were able to get 14 in lol)
• The gun is designed for a fast cleaning on the field (1 min.). Once you get all of the gunk out and a little practice you should be able to clean it within that time.

I can’t remember the caliber right now but if you want any more info you can just pm me.

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Strag

I've never purchased anything from him, but his stuff looks nice. I've read plenty of accounts from people who have been happy with what they got from him. I'd say he's a tad overpriced, though. I bought an M48 locally several years ago for about $200. It came with all the accessories and was "like new" (probably never issued). I had to clean all the cosmoline off of it.

The place I've used the most and would recommend is Empire Arms. They get new stuff in all the time, and sometimes they have some really interesting stuff.

Trooper

You talking about vances? They got abig sale going on right now for SKS and a Mousin Nagont....both under 150

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Strag

No, I got it at 3 C Blueing (614-899-9660), which is a small shop in Westerville (not Aumiller's). I also bought a byf 43 Mauser and an Ishapore No. 2A from him.

Apophis

The SKS is a 7.62. Not sure about the whole "serialized parts" thing. The rifle has a serial number, but each part isn't individually marked. Makes me wonder if you somehow got a replica that is bound by more modern firearms identification restrictions?

Also, the SKS should be using a magazine, not a clip.

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TheFeniX

The revolver is FAR from the original point-and-click interface. Maybe the most iconic from an American perspective though.

As do I.

So, I have to be all giddy when I look at my Winchester lever action rifle and enjoy firing it when it kicks like a mule and the ammo costs ridiculous amounts of money?

Please, my 9mm CX4 might not be used in any Western Movies (sure does make a good showing in Battlestar Galactica, though), but it's fun to shoot and easy on the wallet.

Even if I had the money to invest into collector's firearms, I'd rather take that money and invest in a good MP5 or Ingram Mac10 and the expense and time required to own a fully-automatic version legally. Then I'd blow another couple grand on upgrades and go compete with it.

If you think that makes your love of firearms more "complete" or "pure" than mine, that's your call. I just don't see it.

The basics of the Internal Combustion engine hasn't changed in almost as long, but you're telling me it's not more fun to drive a Dodge Viper, rather than a Model-T. Sure, the Ford has a nostalgia feel to it and would be cool to drive for a hoot, but that's it.

That's what "collectors guns" are for me. They're a hoot for grins, but give me an XD40 or PX4 and I'll show you how to drill targets without breaking my budget.

If these guns interest me in any way, it's because of the technology and how we got there. You can look at these firearms and see how the tech progressed over the years. Being a technically oriented guy, that's what puts me onto them.

It's the same reason I keep the Winchester and Remington up on the wall, and my PX4 and XD .40 in my gun bag.

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Gabriel87

I meant magazine not clip and no it’s not a replica.

Proof why

The serialized parts are hand stamped.
The gun was used during WW2 and retired to a warehouse in the early 1950’s
Scratches and few small dents in the stock of the gun
And the absolute poof I have is name of the soldier who had the gun is carved into the side of the stock (I can’t remember the name right now but I will post it when I get home from school)

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