Convince me this is a good purchase....

JMJ · 05-02-2006, 08:44 AM

Not based on gameplay, because i've been a hardcore Ghost Recon player since "Rainbow Six" was originally released. I love the gameplay and I need no convincing there. Where I need convincing is on the software itself. I installed the demo last night and was not pleased in the least bit. The game was choppy, the mouse response seemed "sluggish to too-fast" at times, and the framerates I was getting were in the area of 20-25FPS. Here are my system specs:

Athlon64 3700+
2GB RAM
ATI X800XT-PE
SB Audigy 2
Dell 20" Widescreen LCD, native resolution 1680x1050 (I run all games at this resolution)

By no means is this system a slouch. However, this game brings it to a crawl when set on 1440x900 (I think that's the resolution). I have no option to set it to 1680x1050 at all and even if I could, my system would probably die. Now don't get me wrong, I'm not against a lower resolution if the game would "fill" the monitor. The problem is that it doesn't do this. It puts black borders on the edges of the monitor and keeps the set resolution at actual size. I.e, 1440 pixels wide on the 1680 pixel wide monitor. This isn't so much a problem but when I get to lower resolutions in hopes of better framerates, it's too small to see. This is not a monitor problem, I can get it to fill the screen on all other games when I set them to lower resolutions (has been verified). In order for me to play this game at a lower resolution, I need it to fill my screen so I can read the text and see details. I've attached a screenshot below that shows what 1440x900 looks like on 1680x1050. Note the black border. Imagine if I set this to 1280x720, the text becomes so small I can't read it.

So, given these problems, why should I invest $50 in this game?

Bommando · 05-02-2006, 09:08 AM

You should set a custom resolution in your renderer_settings.xml file:

C:\Program Files\Ubisoft\Demo\Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter Demo\Data\settings folder is a file called "renderer_settings.xml"

Back it up first and you will plainly see the line where you edit your resolution.

You should also lower your Dynamic Shadows to "Low". There is no discernible difference between High and Low while there is action.

With the same vid card as you (X800XT PE), I am getting 30-35 FPS at 1680 x 1050 and everything maxed except Dynamic Shadows, which is low. This is more than enough for the slow-paced nature of the game. Since you are not running around enemies and rushing through combat, I find it perfectly acceptable and get no stuttering or video lag.

In that XML file, you should also set all of your texture managed settings from "false" to "true". Anyone with 2GB RAM or more will likely see some performance increase with them on true.

For more info, see the GRAW Tweakguide.

**TG_Bubba** · 05-02-2006, 09:20 AM

Because it is one of the few games where there is no medic to save Bommando.

Mateo · 05-02-2006, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by TG_Bubba

Because it is one of the few games where there is no medic to save Bommando.

Tha winnah!

Mateo · 05-02-2006, 10:06 AM

I'm considering passing on this as well, at least at launch. I'd need to spend $300 to get my system up to the point where it didn't choke on the game: $200 for a new video card, $100 in 1gb RAM. Hardly seems worth it for a $50 game that has no multiplayer component.

**Trooper** · 05-02-2006, 10:13 AM

Im with Mateo and JMJ. Although i my update my card im not sure if im gonna purchase it. I dint see really anything that was to spectacular about this game. I also see alot of people complaining about how its run at TG. I got other games i can play that give a better tactical and team play then what ive seen so far in the videos and game play ive done. And with BF2 comeing out with co-op, that will take the place for those who cant play this game. I can play SWAT AA GR, that give a better sence of team play and tactics

just my thoughts

JMJ · 05-02-2006, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Bonehead

Also set your post effects to low, helps quite a bit and makes no discernable visual difference.
1024x768 isn't too shabby looking!

I'm not against running at that low resolution, but it doesn't fill my monitor (and yes I have "full screen" selected). imagine 1024x768 pixels on a 1680x1050 monitor in the center. the text is so small i can't read it. For some odd reason it puts black borders on the game, no other game does that (including BF2). Look at the picture I posted above. That's 1440x900 on 1680x1050. The black border is the screen fill.

im going to try the settings Bommando suggested tonight. If that goes well, I'll be buying it.

**TG_Bubba** · 05-02-2006, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by TG_Mateo

I'm considering passing on this as well, at least at launch. I'd need to spend $300 to get my system up to the point where it didn't choke on the game: $200 for a new video card, $100 in 1gb RAM. Hardly seems worth it for a $50 game that has no multiplayer component.

Hmmm, trip to the other side of the world for vacation or computer upgrade. Decisions, decisions.

Mateo · 05-02-2006, 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TG_Bubba

Hmmm, trip to the other side of the world for vacation or computer upgrade. Decisions, decisions.

LOL. This is the second of 3 trips this year: the next one is El Salvador and Antigua in August.

A man has to have his priorities straight.

**TG_Bubba** · 05-02-2006, 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TG_Mateo

LOL. This is the second of 3 trips this year: the next one is El Salvador and Antigua in August.

A man has to have his priorities straight.

Guess we know who the priority is.

The other half.

You ever see how easy it is to hi-jack a thread....... sorry JMJ

Mateo · 05-02-2006, 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TG_Bubba

Guess we know who the priority is.

The other half.

Roger that!

Bodofooko · 05-02-2006, 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JMJ

I'm not against running at that low resolution, but it doesn't fill my monitor (and yes I have "full screen" selected). imagine 1024x768 pixels on a 1680x1050 monitor in the center. the text is so small i can't read it. For some odd reason it puts black borders on the game, no other game does that (including BF2). Look at the picture I posted above. That's 1440x900 on 1680x1050. The black border is the screen fill.

Do you have the "fit image to screen" option selected in your display adapter advanced properties?

Turbo · 05-02-2006, 11:12 AM

The multiplayer is so stupid. Only 4 guys can play COOP together. Wait until they at least mod it to 8-9 players and people start making more open maps. Ill spend the money to upgrade once they do that stuff to the game.

TychoCelchuuu · 05-02-2006, 11:12 AM

Don't bother with that; you can select the aspect ratio in the graphics options. Just set it to whatever your monitor is then jack down the graphics until it's playable.

JMJ · 05-02-2006, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Bodofooko

Do you have the "fit image to screen" option selected in your display adapter advanced properties?

I'll check that when I get home tonight. Would be odd since the other games work okay. But I'll check, thanks for the heads up. It's irritating as hell.

05-02-2006, 08:44 AM	#1 (permalink)
JMJ Join Date: Jun 2005 Age: 37 Posts: 4,074	Convince me this is a good purchase.... Not based on gameplay, because i've been a hardcore Ghost Recon player since "Rainbow Six" was originally released. I love the gameplay and I need no convincing there. Where I need convincing is on the software itself. I installed the demo last night and was not pleased in the least bit. The game was choppy, the mouse response seemed "sluggish to too-fast" at times, and the framerates I was getting were in the area of 20-25FPS. Here are my system specs: Athlon64 3700+ 2GB RAM ATI X800XT-PE SB Audigy 2 Dell 20" Widescreen LCD, native resolution 1680x1050 (I run all games at this resolution) By no means is this system a slouch. However, this game brings it to a crawl when set on 1440x900 (I think that's the resolution). I have no option to set it to 1680x1050 at all and even if I could, my system would probably die. Now don't get me wrong, I'm not against a lower resolution if the game would "fill" the monitor. The problem is that it doesn't do this. It puts black borders on the edges of the monitor and keeps the set resolution at actual size. I.e, 1440 pixels wide on the 1680 pixel wide monitor. This isn't so much a problem but when I get to lower resolutions in hopes of better framerates, it's too small to see. This is not a monitor problem, I can get it to fill the screen on all other games when I set them to lower resolutions (has been verified). In order for me to play this game at a lower resolution, I need it to fill my screen so I can read the text and see details. I've attached a screenshot below that shows what 1440x900 looks like on 1680x1050. Note the black border. Imagine if I set this to 1280x720, the text becomes so small I can't read it. So, given these problems, why should I invest $50 in this game?

05-02-2006, 09:08 AM	#2 (permalink)
Bommando Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Sydney, Australia Age: 29 Posts: 4,294	Re: Convince me this is a good purchase.... You should set a custom resolution in your renderer_settings.xml file: C:\Program Files\Ubisoft\Demo\Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter Demo\Data\settings folder is a file called "renderer_settings.xml" Back it up first and you will plainly see the line where you edit your resolution. You should also lower your Dynamic Shadows to "Low". There is no discernible difference between High and Low while there is action. With the same vid card as you (X800XT PE), I am getting 30-35 FPS at 1680 x 1050 and everything maxed except Dynamic Shadows, which is low. This is more than enough for the slow-paced nature of the game. Since you are not running around enemies and rushing through combat, I find it perfectly acceptable and get no stuttering or video lag. In that XML file, you should also set all of your texture managed settings from "false" to "true". Anyone with 2GB RAM or more will likely see some performance increase with them on true. For more info, see the GRAW Tweakguide. Last edited by Bommando; 05-02-2006 at 07:28 PM.

05-02-2006, 09:20 AM	#3 (permalink)
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05-02-2006, 10:06 AM	#5 (permalink)
Mateo Join Date: Aug 2004 Age: 37 Posts: 6,483	Re: Convince me this is a good purchase.... I'm considering passing on this as well, at least at launch. I'd need to spend $300 to get my system up to the point where it didn't choke on the game: $200 for a new video card, $100 in 1gb RAM. Hardly seems worth it for a $50 game that has no multiplayer component.

05-02-2006, 10:13 AM	#6 (permalink)
Trooper Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In my wifes house......if she says i can Age: 25 Posts: 8,562	Re: Convince me this is a good purchase.... Im with Mateo and JMJ. Although i my update my card im not sure if im gonna purchase it. I dint see really anything that was to spectacular about this game. I also see alot of people complaining about how its run at TG. I got other games i can play that give a better tactical and team play then what ive seen so far in the videos and game play ive done. And with BF2 comeing out with co-op, that will take the place for those who cant play this game. I can play SWAT AA GR, that give a better sence of team play and tactics just my thoughts __________________ that sounds like a good idea trooper. -Vulcan

05-02-2006, 11:12 AM	#13 (permalink)
Turbo Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Mechanicsburg, PA Age: 26 Posts: 3,933	Re: Convince me this is a good purchase.... The multiplayer is so stupid. Only 4 guys can play COOP together. Wait until they at least mod it to 8-9 players and people start making more open maps. Ill spend the money to upgrade once they do that stuff to the game. __________________

05-02-2006, 11:12 AM	#14 (permalink)
TychoCelchuuu Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Seattle, WA Age: 19 Posts: 1,776	Re: Convince me this is a good purchase.... Don't bother with that; you can select the aspect ratio in the graphics options. Just set it to whatever your monitor is then jack down the graphics until it's playable. __________________ \|TG-Irr\|TychoCelchuuu

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