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Old 10-27-2007, 08:49 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Chat Spamage

Mages have their sheep macros.
Rezers have their rez macros.
Hunters have their MD macros.

How about encouraging people to make an interrupt macro as well?

WWS, as great as it is, does not give a very accurate account of who is interrupting and who isn't.

Something as simple as:
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#showtooltip Counterspell
/cast counterspell
/ra Using counterspell on %t!
Rinse and repeat for shield bash, kick, pummel, and feral charge (though that might be pushing it since our druids are already in melee even if its considered a primary interrupt the lucky bastards).

I don't know. I've started to get tired of plinking away at a target and it seems only Gaviin, Aeryck, and the tank are interrupting. If there are 3-4 mages on the same target and/or a DPS warrior pounding away as well there really is no reason for a heal or a spell to go off with all those interrupts being unused.

For those who will complain of chat spam: You also say you never listen/see my chat comments during a fight so its unimportant if announcements are put in the same place. :P

Basically its just something I want people to consider as I'm constantly cursing Blizzard for making the hunter's Silencing Shot talent a secondary interrupt instead of a primary.

DAMN YOU BLIZZARD! DAMN YOU AND YOUR STUPIDITY WITH AN END TIER TALENT!
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Old 10-28-2007, 07:27 AM   #2 (permalink)
 
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Re: Chat Spamage

Yay yet another thing to point out something to give right to someone else for accusing of not doing their classes job... i vote no kthxbye
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Old 10-28-2007, 08:42 PM   #3 (permalink)
 
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Yay yet another thing to point out something to give right to someone else for accusing of not doing their classes job... i vote no kthxbye
Well said...lol....not! BTW what language are you typing in Ghost? It certainly doesn't translate very well into English.

Actually, I think a macro that tells who is interrupting could be of more benefit than most of the other silly macro chat alerts. It could help clarify who should be next interrupting the channelers in Mag's lair or on Shade for example.
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Old 10-29-2007, 08:42 AM   #4 (permalink)
 
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Chat must be kept pristine so that the important cookie messages are visible.
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Old 10-29-2007, 09:13 AM   #5 (permalink)
 
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Old 11-02-2007, 08:52 PM   #6 (permalink)
 
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Rez- Useful Macro. (Saves time and possibly mana when there's more than two Rezzers up.) (and yes, it saves mana... I don't know hwo many times my Rez has gone off a half second before somebody elses... You see two flashes, followed by two mana bars dropping by a large chunk.)
Sheep - Not overly useful. We've told you what to sheep. I don't think we need you to tell us you're doing it over and over. (and it obviously doesn't stop people from Dotting sheep... *sigh*
Interrupts - Maybe useful... maybe not. I think we only have Gav, Aeryck and the tank interrupting because of cooldowns and what have you. (as in, global cooldown.) It's easier for rogues and tanks to time the interrupt, than for, say, a mage.. who has 3 and 6 second casts going that probably add an extra layer of complexity. (correct me if i'm wrong, of course.)

I could probably care less about MD macros... I don't care WHO has MD... as long as it's not me.
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Old 11-03-2007, 04:31 AM   #7 (permalink)
 
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Rez- Useful Macro. (Saves time and possibly mana when there's more than two Rezzers up.) (and yes, it saves mana... I don't know hwo many times my Rez has gone off a half second before somebody elses... You see two flashes, followed by two mana bars dropping by a large chunk.)
Sheep - Not overly useful. We've told you what to sheep. I don't think we need you to tell us you're doing it over and over. (and it obviously doesn't stop people from Dotting sheep... *sigh*
Interrupts - Maybe useful... maybe not. I think we only have Gav, Aeryck and the tank interrupting because of cooldowns and what have you. (as in, global cooldown.) It's easier for rogues and tanks to time the interrupt, than for, say, a mage.. who has 3 and 6 second casts going that probably add an extra layer of complexity. (correct me if i'm wrong, of course.)

I could probably care less about MD macros... I don't care WHO has MD... as long as it's not me.
Its all relative I suppose. Personally I think MD macros are more important than Rez macros because I don't care who is rezing who as long as everyone does get rezed. Its not like we're having a race during wipe recovery or after a fight.

MD macros, however, help a hunter avoid MD overwrites. Much like you worry about double rezzing someone because it will waste mana it becomes problematic if another hunter overwrites the first's misdirection with their own because the threat isn't transfered anymore. An MD overwrite at the start of the fight generally means the tank loses aggro and the mob goes on a murderous rampage through the rest of the raid as evidenced by a few of the more interesting pulls we've had in the past.

I also find sheep macros helpful when the original sheeper gets killed and someone picks up the mob on the fly. Lets everyone know that Y person has picked up the task and eliminates the lag of time between the loss of control and the resumption when the RL gives the order. Then again, I also like keeping track of what can kill me so I can best avoid it.

I'd personally rather have a mage interrupt their 3 second fireball or 2.5 second frostbolt (If they're using the 6 second Pyroblast then there's something amiss) to cancel a heal or a shadowbolt volley. The alternative is everyone either takes 1-3k damage that the healers have to heal up or the mob takes longer to kill because it was healed for 50-150k for 20-40% of their life back.

Ah well, I just thought I'd throw that out there since I was thinking about it while at work. Getting tired of Shadowbolt volleys and heals getting off during Mags when we theoretically have enough manpower to stop them.

And Gaia its actually very much the opposite. I can hear when Gaviin and Aeryck kick because they announce it over TS. The unspoken assumption is that none of the mages do so because:

1) Spells are getting through when Gaviin and Aeryck can't kick
2) Its frequently being asked for mages to help with interrupts if possible because their counterspells are free from not being used

Then again you can't really prove that they're not being used because there is no evidence of their use anywhere.

But that's just my understanding of the situation and I too have just accepted that people won't interrupt even if they can. I'm probably just as guilty since of the 1-2 mobs I can interrupt I only do it if I can and don't make a point of saving my GCD to interrupt by using silencing shot. Ah well.
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Old 11-03-2007, 11:07 AM   #8 (permalink)

 
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I know we are reaching the limit of channels, but maybe a new channel is in order for these such macros...

"/join tgspammage" will contain:
Sheep Macros
Rez Macros (if not in the tghealers channel)
MD Macros (which should also be set to whisper the tanks...very helpful)
Interrupt Macros

Sound like a compromise?
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Old 11-03-2007, 03:36 PM   #9 (permalink)
 
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I know we are reaching the limit of channels, but maybe a new channel is in order for these such macros...

"/join tgspammage" will contain:
Sheep Macros
Rez Macros (if not in the tghealers channel)
MD Macros (which should also be set to whisper the tanks...very helpful)
Interrupt Macros

Sound like a compromise?
There's a channel i won't be in. (Not that i'm putting the Idea down, I just don't need to know any of that stuff on my pally.) The only thing I care about is the rezzes, and I've still got Xperl to tell me who's rezzing who. (which is why i don't have a rez macro.)

And Tarenth, not that i'm a raiding mage, but more because i have a level 60 fire mage, (which means i know EVERYTHING.) Isn't Pyroblast still a viable spell to throw out if you've got a gauranteed crit and time to spare? It's slightly more mana efficient than the usual Fire ball, fire ball, fire blast combo. (keeping in mind you're not always using it.)
Just curious. (I like Pyro Blast. gives tanks extra aggro time.. and then wastes it in a GLORIOUS BALL OF CRITTY FIRE!)
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