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Old 01-24-2008, 04:07 PM   #31 (permalink)
 
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Re: 1/17 First Karathress Kill

It seems like we agree on the 1-roll basics, but now i'm curious.

For rogues dual wielding, white damage Miss is ~25% without the precision talents and no other plus hit. Dodge will be ~8% and Parry (if attacking from the front) will be ~9% without the weapon expertise talents and no other expertise rating.

So miss + dodge + parry = ~42%
glancing blows = ~25% to do 30% damage
Total = ~67%

That leaves ~33% remaining. Theoretically, if I was hit capped and expertise capped to eliminate the 42% miss/dodge/parry, would I be effectively crit capped at ~33%?

Similarly, if I'm attacking from behind and thus no Parry, would my crit be capped at ~42%?

Or once those are off the table so to speak, would the crit cap = ~75% because glancing is always a ~25% probability?

I'm guessing it's the last, although I'll never be hit/expertise/crit capped
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Old 01-24-2008, 05:03 PM   #32 (permalink)
 
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Re: 1/17 First Karathress Kill

It would be closer to the last. Remember, the table shrinks from the right, so that's how it would work, at least in theory.

The thing is, Blizzard has never said what their mechanics are. For all intents and purposes, this model works. However, there's enough variation to suggest that there may be other things happening. You could roll a die from 1-10000 and based on where that number lies, you might figure out what the attack will be. However, that's only one method of determining it. There might very well be a system where "a miss can't crit" and still be a one-roll system. You could do binary operations on the number itself to determine what does, in fact, happen. Your model could be a one roll system, but there's nothing that says that this one random number has to be a positive integer. It could be a quaternion, for all we know.

Nonetheless, that's all just interesting academics, and in the end, doesn't really affect things that much.
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