A Very Interesting Software: PlayXPert

Acreo Aeneas · 02-29-2008, 01:03 AM

www.playxpert.com

Was hunting around for some web-based Teamspeak monitors when I came across this softare (widget). I can't speak for how well it works with FPSs, but once they release their next version, I should be able to tell you guys what it works with or breaks.

Their claim is that it "works with all games" and is "expandable". Perhaps some of you are users. If so, post your feedback on their product.

ScratchMonkey · 02-29-2008, 02:01 AM

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The overlay is injected at the kernel level, so it supports virtually ANY game. This means it doesn’t use the shared memory of the game, it doesn't compete for game resources, and it will not be detected as a hack tool.

If I were coding a hack tool, that's exactly how I'd code it. They'll have to work with the game publishers (eg. Blizzard, EvenBalance) to insure this doesn't trigger their detectors.

Acreo Aeneas · 02-29-2008, 06:56 PM

That's why it caught my eye.

Unless they aren't working with the publishers...

CodeMercenary · 03-01-2008, 03:42 AM

I'm the engineer who wrote the overlay system.

We don't need special exceptions for PlayXpert with GameGuardian, Warden, PunkBuster, or anti-cheat technologies like them because our system is nothing like existing hack tools. Those systems work by looking for specific behaviors by other processes running on your computer, somewhat like an antivirus scanner.

Even though a kernel approach might be exactly what you would try to do if you were interested in writing an advanced cheat tool, unless you were being funded to do this work and had significant experience with windows display drivers, chances are pretty good that you would fail.

What is more important than working with game publishers to secure exceptions for their anti-cheat technologies is that we avoid giving them any reason to target us.

ScratchMonkey · 03-01-2008, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by CodeMercenary

Even though a kernel approach might be exactly what you would try to do if you were interested in writing an advanced cheat tool, unless you were being funded to do this work and had significant experience with windows display drivers, chances are pretty good that you would fail.

Nothing like throwing down the gauntlet.

Note that cheats are often written by competent people who do it for the challenge, but then turn them loose into the wild where the people who actually use them ("script kiddies") may have no programming knowledge whatsover.

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What is more important than working with game publishers to secure exceptions for their anti-cheat technologies is that we avoid giving them any reason to target us.

True. But if a cheat writer were to take this approach, it could burden legitimate apps with the need to register their innocence with the cheat detection suppliers. I recall TeamSpeak Overlay being caught as a cheat when it first came out, because it tries to hook the DirectX stack.

Acreo Aeneas · 03-01-2008, 11:21 AM

Does PlayXPert keep tabs on the TG community or something?

I just find it weird a PlayXPert dev/coder is responding to this thread so suddenly...

Here's something I couldn't find out: does PlayXPert support Steam games (CSS, HL2, EP1, etc.)? Does your implemented widget interfere with other DX Overlay type widgets like the "Steam Community"?

**Bamboo** · 03-01-2008, 12:34 PM

You would be suprised how quickly things we put here show up on google.
The other day when we were helping someone with a problem, I googled the problem and one of the 1st ones that came up was the thread here at TG that had just started.

You can't hide from the google eye.

Polska · 03-01-2008, 01:39 PM

This looks interesting. I hope to dabble with coding my own widgets in the future, but what to code hrm....

EDIT: Any idea on a date when the client will be available for download once more.

**machowner** · 03-01-2008, 04:35 PM

I'm confused is this supposed to take the place of TS overlay?

Acreo Aeneas · 03-01-2008, 05:56 PM

I'm guessing it's more of a competitor to. Or in their phrasing: "it's a superior product to similar products".

**WhiskeySix** · 03-01-2008, 06:05 PM

Great! TSO doesn't work if you've got other apps running that are also doing overlays, such as FRAPS (fps counter), and xfire (chat overlay).

**machowner** · 03-01-2008, 07:16 PM

Yea, I don't really like TSO so I hope this is something that works out.

ScratchMonkey · 03-02-2008, 08:57 AM

The system provides an API so people can add functionality. So in principle TS, FRAPS, and X-Fire could all provide plugins for it.

**Tonk** · 03-03-2008, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Acreo Aeneas

Does PlayXPert keep tabs on the TG community or something?

I just find it weird a PlayXPert dev/coder is responding to this thread so suddenly...

i agree with acreo's view on this... lol

CodeMercenary · 03-03-2008, 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Acreo Aeneas

Does PlayXPert keep tabs on the TG community or something?

I just find it weird a PlayXPert dev/coder is responding to this thread so suddenly...

Here's something I couldn't find out: does PlayXPert support Steam games (CSS, HL2, EP1, etc.)? Does your implemented widget interfere with other DX Overlay type widgets like the "Steam Community"?

Sorry, I didn't mean to startle you. We have a community management team that looks for threads like these, and it was brought to my attention rather quickly.

PXP supports any game that uses DirectX. It doesn't interfere with the presentation of Steam widgets. Or XFire. Or...well, anything else that uses an overlay system similar to theirs. Though obviously, if you move PXP widgets on top of Steam widgets while in-game, I think that PXP might take mouse focus before Steam does. Not sure, haven't tested it that far yet.

02-29-2008, 01:03 AM	#1 (permalink)
Acreo Aeneas Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: DePaul University (Chicago) Age: 22 Posts: 3,693	A Very Interesting Software: PlayXPert www.playxpert.com Was hunting around for some web-based Teamspeak monitors when I came across this softare (widget). I can't speak for how well it works with FPSs, but once they release their next version, I should be able to tell you guys what it works with or breaks. Their claim is that it "works with all games" and is "expandable". Perhaps some of you are users. If so, post your feedback on their product. __________________ Acreo_Aeneas Former 9th Member "People usually see me and ask if I speak Chinese. I respond by asking if they speak American."

02-29-2008, 06:56 PM	#3 (permalink)
Acreo Aeneas Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: DePaul University (Chicago) Age: 22 Posts: 3,693	Re: A Very Interesting Software: PlayXPert That's why it caught my eye. Unless they aren't working with the publishers... __________________ Acreo_Aeneas Former 9th Member "People usually see me and ask if I speak Chinese. I respond by asking if they speak American."

03-01-2008, 03:42 AM	#4 (permalink)
CodeMercenary Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 10	Re: A Very Interesting Software: PlayXPert I'm the engineer who wrote the overlay system. We don't need special exceptions for PlayXpert with GameGuardian, Warden, PunkBuster, or anti-cheat technologies like them because our system is nothing like existing hack tools. Those systems work by looking for specific behaviors by other processes running on your computer, somewhat like an antivirus scanner. Even though a kernel approach might be exactly what you would try to do if you were interested in writing an advanced cheat tool, unless you were being funded to do this work and had significant experience with windows display drivers, chances are pretty good that you would fail. What is more important than working with game publishers to secure exceptions for their anti-cheat technologies is that we avoid giving them any reason to target us.

03-01-2008, 11:21 AM	#6 (permalink)
Acreo Aeneas Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: DePaul University (Chicago) Age: 22 Posts: 3,693	Re: A Very Interesting Software: PlayXPert Does PlayXPert keep tabs on the TG community or something? I just find it weird a PlayXPert dev/coder is responding to this thread so suddenly... Here's something I couldn't find out: does PlayXPert support Steam games (CSS, HL2, EP1, etc.)? Does your implemented widget interfere with other DX Overlay type widgets like the "Steam Community"? __________________ Acreo_Aeneas Former 9th Member "People usually see me and ask if I speak Chinese. I respond by asking if they speak American."

03-01-2008, 12:34 PM	#7 (permalink)
Bamboo Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: On the beach north of Jacksonville, NC Posts: 2,594	Re: A Very Interesting Software: PlayXPert You would be suprised how quickly things we put here show up on google. The other day when we were helping someone with a problem, I googled the problem and one of the 1st ones that came up was the thread here at TG that had just started. You can't hide from the google eye. __________________ LINKS 10th Tactical Guard Server Rules and SOP * Kicked? Banned? READ THIS FIRST!* Contact an Admin * Nominate your teammates for a ribbon Stoop and you'll be stepped on; stand tall and you'll be shot at. -Carlos A. Urbizo-

03-01-2008, 01:39 PM	#8 (permalink)
Polska Join Date: May 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Age: 26 Posts: 698	Re: A Very Interesting Software: PlayXPert This looks interesting. I hope to dabble with coding my own widgets in the future, but what to code hrm.... EDIT: Any idea on a date when the client will be available for download once more. __________________ I love gaming, mmmmmmmm

03-01-2008, 04:35 PM	#9 (permalink)
machowner Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: New Tazewell, TN Posts: 2,826	Re: A Very Interesting Software: PlayXPert I'm confused is this supposed to take the place of TS overlay? __________________ \|New to TG? Start here\|*\|Become a Supporting Member\| "Remember to pillage BEFORE you burn!"

03-01-2008, 05:56 PM	#10 (permalink)
Acreo Aeneas Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: DePaul University (Chicago) Age: 22 Posts: 3,693	Re: A Very Interesting Software: PlayXPert I'm guessing it's more of a competitor to. Or in their phrasing: "it's a superior product to similar products". __________________ Acreo_Aeneas Former 9th Member "People usually see me and ask if I speak Chinese. I respond by asking if they speak American."

03-01-2008, 06:05 PM	#11 (permalink)
WhiskeySix Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Gillette Stadium, Section 309, Row 12, Seat 24 Age: 33 Posts: 7,965	Re: A Very Interesting Software: PlayXPert Great! TSO doesn't work if you've got other apps running that are also doing overlays, such as FRAPS (fps counter), and xfire (chat overlay). __________________

03-01-2008, 07:16 PM	#12 (permalink)
machowner Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: New Tazewell, TN Posts: 2,826	Re: A Very Interesting Software: PlayXPert Yea, I don't really like TSO so I hope this is something that works out. __________________ \|New to TG? Start here\|*\|Become a Supporting Member\| "Remember to pillage BEFORE you burn!"

03-02-2008, 08:57 AM	#13 (permalink)
ScratchMonkey Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: San Pablo, California Posts: 3,834	Re: A Very Interesting Software: PlayXPert The system provides an API so people can add functionality. So in principle TS, FRAPS, and X-Fire could all provide plugins for it. __________________ Sig

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