Vista is driving me insane - Page 2

ScratchMonkey · 06-10-2008, 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MagnaCentipede

they just code them to OS check and refuse 2K so the game company's CEO can receive a briefcase filled with cash from Bill and Steve.

That's called the Windows Logo Program. Fail to meet its requirements and you don't get the compatibility logo on your box and you lose sales.

Of course, a competent programmer can probably figure out how to make it tolerate 2k and still meet Logo requirements, but all the competent programmers work on the eye candy. Some green interns get stuck with side jobs like the server browser, installer, and meeting the logo requirements.

ChopStick · 06-10-2008, 10:22 PM

What are your system specs? Was this a legitimately acquired copy of vista?

**Long Bow** · 06-11-2008, 10:13 AM

I agree that something is not adding up here. To have both versions crap out like that. I would try ditching the raid, install with 2gb of ram, be absolutely sure that your BIOS is up to date, the chip set, network card... etc.

Can you confirm that everything is running fine now in XP with the exact same hardware?

What ever you do get it done, the server isn't the same without your Southern bell voice

Steamers · 06-11-2008, 12:08 PM

vista ftl =(... well at least until it gets an sp3 or something

**birdie_in_Texas** · 06-12-2008, 04:46 PM

Yep..it rocks with XP on it..everything seems to be fine with 4-gigs o ram..

32-bit Vista reported 4 GB, but XP only reports 3.5 GB..weird eh?

oh well..Vista can pretty much just rot..

ScratchMonkey · 06-12-2008, 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by birdie_in_Texas

32-bit Vista reported 4 GB, but XP only reports 3.5 GB..weird eh?

So Vista is telling you what's installed, while XP is telling you how much it will use.

MagnaCentipede · 06-12-2008, 09:21 PM

"Of course, a competent programmer can probably figure out how to make it tolerate 2k and still meet Logo requirements,"

Oh, the competent programmers find workarounds. A registry edit here, a JZ-to-JNZ there; one game apparently just requires you open the compressed files and dump the directory structure into place because only the installer bothers to be a putz.

RUFU5_MAXIMU5 · 06-12-2008, 10:01 PM

most of my vista problems were solved by disabling UAC, you tried that?

RedForman · 06-12-2008, 10:10 PM

I was having so may problems with Vista, I decided to go back to XP myself. Definitely NOT regretting it.

**birdie_in_Texas** · 06-13-2008, 01:23 PM

Got the box on XP and TS running and CoD4 up and going..it is VERY fast on XP..last thing I got to do is get fan profile in RivaTuner setup for hte fan on the 8800GT and I am going to start attacking my Vista issues on my former gaming rig..maybe I can figure out what the heck I was doing wrong..

Capt. Obvious · 06-15-2008, 04:23 PM

Did you check your RAM? the last Major issues i ever had with Vista was a set of dieing PNYs and once i upgraded and replaced all the old sticks system ran smooth. i would check each of your RAM sticks (problemly with 3rd party software if you can get any) just to rule out the possiblity. also write down the errors and post them so we can help more.

and if you can stand it ask technet they problemly know whats going on.

you should also check HCL (hardware compatablity list) to make sure you dont have some piece of equipment that Vista doesn't completely support yet. (i had a nasty old PDA freak out my computer so dont limit it to internal componets).

RedForman · 06-16-2008, 10:57 AM

See, that's a major problem with Vista though - it is NOT new, I find very few excuses for there to be so many incompatible pieces of equipment.

**marstein** · 06-19-2008, 09:09 PM

Another reason your programs crash could be that you are not running as administrator. Many old programs do stuff only admins should do and then crash if the OS doesn't give them permissions. Try 'run as administrator' on the game starter.

Once something crashes you may have the possibility of checking what caused the crash. Try to get a 'stack dump' or check in the log viewer (event viewer?) for more info.

06-10-2008, 10:22 PM	#17 (permalink)
ChopStick Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Toronto Age: 21 Posts: 289	Re: Vista is driving me insane What are your system specs? Was this a legitimately acquired copy of vista?

06-11-2008, 10:13 AM	#18 (permalink)
Long Bow Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Ontario, Canada Age: 30 Posts: 1,429	Re: Vista is driving me insane I agree that something is not adding up here. To have both versions crap out like that. I would try ditching the raid, install with 2gb of ram, be absolutely sure that your BIOS is up to date, the chip set, network card... etc. Can you confirm that everything is running fine now in XP with the exact same hardware? What ever you do get it done, the server isn't the same without your Southern bell voice __________________

06-11-2008, 12:08 PM	#19 (permalink)
Steamers Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 158	Re: Vista is driving me insane vista ftl =(... well at least until it gets an sp3 or something

06-12-2008, 04:46 PM	#20 (permalink)
birdie_in_Texas Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: TEXAS..! Age: 39 Posts: 3,327	Re: Vista is driving me insane Yep..it rocks with XP on it..everything seems to be fine with 4-gigs o ram.. 32-bit Vista reported 4 GB, but XP only reports 3.5 GB..weird eh? oh well..Vista can pretty much just rot.. __________________ Call of Duty - Official Rules, Announcements & SOPs Contact a CoD Admin Here

06-12-2008, 09:21 PM	#22 (permalink)
MagnaCentipede Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 1,953	Re: Vista is driving me insane "Of course, a competent programmer can probably figure out how to make it tolerate 2k and still meet Logo requirements," Oh, the competent programmers find workarounds. A registry edit here, a JZ-to-JNZ there; one game apparently just requires you open the compressed files and dump the directory structure into place because only the installer bothers to be a putz. __________________

06-12-2008, 10:01 PM	#23 (permalink)
RUFU5_MAXIMU5 Join Date: May 2008 Location: I live in the East Midlands, UK. It's just about as dull as it sounds Age: 25 Posts: 7	Re: Vista is driving me insane most of my vista problems were solved by disabling UAC, you tried that? __________________ Pax Romana Rufus

06-12-2008, 10:10 PM	#24 (permalink)
RedForman Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: MA Age: 28 Posts: 485	Re: Vista is driving me insane I was having so may problems with Vista, I decided to go back to XP myself. Definitely NOT regretting it. __________________ "I've been working since I was sixteen. I fought two in wars. Hell, I've killed people. I'm not saying that I didn't enjoy it..." -- Red Forman \|TG-Irr\|RedForman

06-13-2008, 01:23 PM	#25 (permalink)
birdie_in_Texas Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: TEXAS..! Age: 39 Posts: 3,327	Re: Vista is driving me insane Got the box on XP and TS running and CoD4 up and going..it is VERY fast on XP..last thing I got to do is get fan profile in RivaTuner setup for hte fan on the 8800GT and I am going to start attacking my Vista issues on my former gaming rig..maybe I can figure out what the heck I was doing wrong.. __________________ Call of Duty - Official Rules, Announcements & SOPs Contact a CoD Admin Here

06-15-2008, 04:23 PM	#26 (permalink)
Capt. Obvious Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Florida, and YES it is HOT Posts: 202	Re: Vista is driving me insane Did you check your RAM? the last Major issues i ever had with Vista was a set of dieing PNYs and once i upgraded and replaced all the old sticks system ran smooth. i would check each of your RAM sticks (problemly with 3rd party software if you can get any) just to rule out the possiblity. also write down the errors and post them so we can help more. and if you can stand it ask technet they problemly know whats going on. you should also check HCL (hardware compatablity list) to make sure you dont have some piece of equipment that Vista doesn't completely support yet. (i had a nasty old PDA freak out my computer so dont limit it to internal componets). __________________ I will not place claymores in my front yard. I will not place claymores in my front yard.

06-16-2008, 10:57 AM	#27 (permalink)
RedForman Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: MA Age: 28 Posts: 485	Re: Vista is driving me insane See, that's a major problem with Vista though - it is NOT new, I find very few excuses for there to be so many incompatible pieces of equipment. __________________ "I've been working since I was sixteen. I fought two in wars. Hell, I've killed people. I'm not saying that I didn't enjoy it..." -- Red Forman \|TG-Irr\|RedForman

06-19-2008, 09:09 PM	#28 (permalink)
marstein Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Half Moon Bay, CA, USA Age: 42 Posts: 840	Re: Vista is driving me insane Another reason your programs crash could be that you are not running as administrator. Many old programs do stuff only admins should do and then crash if the OS doesn't give them permissions. Try 'run as administrator' on the game starter. Once something crashes you may have the possibility of checking what caused the crash. Try to get a 'stack dump' or check in the log viewer (event viewer?) for more info. __________________ Gigabyte P35-DS3R, 2GB, 8800GTS 640MB, Core2Duo E8400

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