SenseSurface sticks knobs onto screens, turns virtual controls physical

**Bamboo** · 07-16-2008, 01:55 PM

This looks like some pretty cool tech. Just think about how much fun this would be for a flight sim on like a small 2nd monitor.

SenseSurface sticks knobs onto screens, turns virtual controls physical

They even have a video

ScratchMonkey · 07-16-2008, 09:37 PM

This might be nice for a kiosk application, including industrial controllers. You'd want a solid piece of glass or plastic in front of the display, or I'd imagine one would see a lot of broken displays from people pulling and levering on the knobs.

**CingularDuality** · 07-17-2008, 04:14 AM

Kiosk? All your knobs would walk away...

ScratchMonkey · 07-17-2008, 04:41 AM

I figure one would use superglue to lock them to the overlay glass.

**MagnaCentipede** · 07-17-2008, 11:53 AM

Nothing like superglue to melt the plastic on the LCD panel's surface, plus superglue is a wonderful lubricant, ensuring the knobs turn freely and smoothly.

Capt. Obvious · 07-17-2008, 12:02 PM

i see more industry and special apps for this like robot arms programming there movement you could have 1 knob per Axis or in the music industry for fine tuning audio elements or controlling things like trains robots ect. then being about to replace any part at any givin time. or like bamboo said Sims i bet MIlitary places would love tactile feedback on there multimillion dollar airsimulators but without having to pay 50,000 for a custom built computer keyboard that looks like control panel. this guy should make some toggle switches 2 cuase toggle switchs are awesome!

**MagnaCentipede** · 07-17-2008, 12:07 PM

What's a two-cuase toggle switch? Two-case?

**Wimpinator** · 07-17-2008, 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScratchMonkey

I figure one would use superglue to lock them to the overlay glass.

Then how would you turn them?

I don't really see many applications for this kind of stuff outside of industrial settings where reconfigurable displays may be needed. Even then why would you pay extra to have a knob when a cheaper touch screen would work just as well?

ScratchMonkey · 07-18-2008, 12:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt. Obvious

this guy should make some toggle switches 2 cuase toggle switchs are awesome!

This guy?!

http://www.girtonlabs.com/
http://girtonlabs.googlepages.com/sensesurface

The knobs are somehow attached to the display surface (probably suction or a special glue) and the top part rotates over the bottom part. I'm not suggesting that you glue the moving part to the stationary part!

Buckets · 07-18-2008, 01:39 AM

They've been doing something similar to this (without the screen) with cooking ranges for years. If your pot boils over and gets underneath the knobs, no problem. Take 'em off and wipe off the surface. You can also hide the knobs to keep your kids from burning down the house.

Anyhow, its a cool if not really that original idea.

ScratchMonkey · 07-18-2008, 04:36 AM

There was an expensive keyboard like this, as well. You could attach the keys wherever you wanted on a blank substrate.

**WhiskeySix** · 07-18-2008, 07:59 AM

This is AWESOME - I work in digital-audio and engineering, so I can see TONS of uses for this...both as development tools (configurable scope as shown in vid) and as pro-audio applications! Virtual mixing board? Yes please!

**Quest Shady** · 07-18-2008, 09:48 AM

All the techs I know would loose these damn knobs and have to make something out of gum and a pen cap.

There are a lot of hands on things coming to the consumer that look pretty cool. I remember something about the interactive coffee table..

**Bamboo** · 07-18-2008, 01:02 PM

That coffee table is the Surface tech from Microsoft, and it is actually already out. Mostly in LosVegas and Cingular/ATT bought a bunch for their stores where people can play with them to see phones and coverage areas.

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ScratchMonkey Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: San Pablo, California Posts: 3,834	Re: SenseSurface sticks knobs onto screens, turns virtual controls physical This might be nice for a kiosk application, including industrial controllers. You'd want a solid piece of glass or plastic in front of the display, or I'd imagine one would see a lot of broken displays from people pulling and levering on the knobs. __________________ Sig

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ScratchMonkey Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: San Pablo, California Posts: 3,834	Re: SenseSurface sticks knobs onto screens, turns virtual controls physical I figure one would use superglue to lock them to the overlay glass. __________________ Sig

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MagnaCentipede Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 1,859	Re: SenseSurface sticks knobs onto screens, turns virtual controls physical Nothing like superglue to melt the plastic on the LCD panel's surface, plus superglue is a wonderful lubricant, ensuring the knobs turn freely and smoothly. __________________

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Capt. Obvious Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Florida, and YES it is HOT Posts: 200	Re: SenseSurface sticks knobs onto screens, turns virtual controls physical i see more industry and special apps for this like robot arms programming there movement you could have 1 knob per Axis or in the music industry for fine tuning audio elements or controlling things like trains robots ect. then being about to replace any part at any givin time. or like bamboo said Sims i bet MIlitary places would love tactile feedback on there multimillion dollar airsimulators but without having to pay 50,000 for a custom built computer keyboard that looks like control panel. this guy should make some toggle switches 2 cuase toggle switchs are awesome! __________________ I will not place claymores in my front yard. I will not place claymores in my front yard.

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MagnaCentipede Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 1,859	Re: SenseSurface sticks knobs onto screens, turns virtual controls physical What's a two-cuase toggle switch? Two-case? __________________

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Buckets Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Tucson, AZ Age: 27 Posts: 464	Re: SenseSurface sticks knobs onto screens, turns virtual controls physical They've been doing something similar to this (without the screen) with cooking ranges for years. If your pot boils over and gets underneath the knobs, no problem. Take 'em off and wipe off the surface. You can also hide the knobs to keep your kids from burning down the house. Anyhow, its a cool if not really that original idea. __________________ The artist formerly known as "pecker"

07-18-2008, 04:36 AM	#11 (permalink)
ScratchMonkey Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: San Pablo, California Posts: 3,834	Re: SenseSurface sticks knobs onto screens, turns virtual controls physical There was an expensive keyboard like this, as well. You could attach the keys wherever you wanted on a blank substrate. __________________ Sig

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WhiskeySix Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Gillette Stadium, Section 309, Row 12, Seat 24 Age: 33 Posts: 7,965	Re: SenseSurface sticks knobs onto screens, turns virtual controls physical This is AWESOME - I work in digital-audio and engineering, so I can see TONS of uses for this...both as development tools (configurable scope as shown in vid) and as pro-audio applications! Virtual mixing board? Yes please! __________________

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Quest Shady Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brandon, FL Age: 37 Posts: 795	Re: SenseSurface sticks knobs onto screens, turns virtual controls physical All the techs I know would loose these damn knobs and have to make something out of gum and a pen cap. There are a lot of hands on things coming to the consumer that look pretty cool. I remember something about the interactive coffee table.. __________________ TG CS:S SOPs \|TG CS:S Admins \| SUPPORTING MEMBERSHIPS Health and Wellness are not accidents. Take Action Now!

07-18-2008, 01:02 PM	#14 (permalink)
Bamboo Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: On the beach north of Jacksonville, NC Posts: 2,594	Re: SenseSurface sticks knobs onto screens, turns virtual controls physical That coffee table is the Surface tech from Microsoft, and it is actually already out. Mostly in LosVegas and Cingular/ATT bought a bunch for their stores where people can play with them to see phones and coverage areas. __________________ LINKS 10th Tactical Guard Server Rules and SOP * Kicked? Banned? READ THIS FIRST!* Contact an Admin * Nominate your teammates for a ribbon Stoop and you'll be stepped on; stand tall and you'll be shot at. -Carlos A. Urbizo-

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