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What is legal with the different flavors of Windows and their respective EULA's?
Your License (from here known as the "key") consists of a Certificate of Authenticity (COA), a key code, and an End User License Agreement (EULA). Recently, Microsoft began placing the COA on a sticker with the key code to help lessen confusion. Here is a brief rundown on what you can do with each different type of license.
If you have a retail License: This is the key you get from the store. You can move this one from person to person or computer to computer, and not have to worry about the legality involved. the thing to remember is that you cannot have it installed on more than one computer at a time and you cannot keep any part of the key if you transfer it to another person. A retail key does not need to be purchased along with a hardware counterpart. If you have an OEM license: The key is for the computer that the oem sticker was originally placed with. you are allowed to reinstall the OS as many times as needed, (at first, Microsoft limited this to 5.....) but it cannot be transferred to another computer. You are allowed to upgrade your computer and keep your oem key. The key and the motherboard are inseperable however. If you change out the motherboard for any reason other than a defect, then the key is no longer valid on that system. (Basically, the key is part of the mobo.) There are 10 different upgrades that will count against the WPA (Windows Product Activation.) Any three of these upgrades will cause you to need to reactivate your product. Some upgrades will not cause a strike against the WPA, and I am not clear if upgrading the same part numerous times counts for each upgrade or only one time. An OEM key must be purchased with a complete system or an integral part of a system (hard drive, memory, processor, mobo, Power supply ***or CABLE!*** cdrom, keyboard, mouse etc.) A periphieral device (camera, scanner, printer, etc.) cannot qualify for use as a hardware purchase for the means to attain an OEM key. If you have a volume or open license: as a consumer, you should not have one of these or your home computer. New computers (Dell, HP, Compaq, Gateway) come installed with this type of key in some cases to help expedite the OS install (the software is modified to look for a specific DMI string submitted by the bios to verify that this is indeed the correct computer to be used with.) But if and when the "restore cd" is used, you are asked for the key that is found on the sticker attached to your case. This is true in some, but not all cases, and unless your company gave you your computer or you own a company that has purchased this type of license, you do not legally have this Product. I have looked all over for what exactly is legal and what is not, and I think this covers in laman's terms most circumstances of what you might need to do with an XP sticker. If you have any questions, feel free to pm or email me.
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Re: What is legal with the different flavors of Windows XP and their respective EULA's?
Thanks! That's some good info. Guess I can't legally upgrade my motherboard now, since I bought an OEM copy of XP Pro with a floppy disk drive.
That's okay though...more money for games. |
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Re: What is legal with the different flavors of Windows XP and their respective EULA's?
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Rampage: Hi, I need a new activation key cause my dog peed on my computer and i had to buy a new motherboard. MS: Oh, sure Mr. Rampage, please write this down xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx. Can I do anything else for you? Rampage: Uh, no...thanks. |
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Re: What is legal with the different flavors of Windows XP and their respective EULA'
until I can read all the different versions of the EULA, this review seems to be level-headed and informed. quoted from HERE
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Re: What is legal with the different flavors of Windows XP and their respective EULA's?
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Re: What is legal with the different flavors of Windows XP and their respective EULA'
you didn't read the entire article thoroghly. There is no difference between XP and Vista, only the language is more speific in the EULA. A call to microsoft will get you back up and running again, just like XP.
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Re: What is legal with the different flavors of Windows XP and their respective EULA'
That's not what I got from the article. I read it as saying that the XP license was, from the MS point of view, abused due to language in the EULA that wasn't restrictive enough, and that the Vista license was going to have no such loophole, that one major upgrade is all you get.
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Re: What is legal with the different flavors of Windows XP and their respective EULA's?
"But if you're one of those guys who regularly upgrades your PC's hardware, you'll be happy to hear that instances of forced reactivation because of hardware upgrades are less frequent under Vista than they were under XP.....
When Windows examines changes to the system, the two most heavily weighed components are the PC's motherboard and hard drive, in that order. If you change both of these components at one time, Windows will almost certainly assume it's running in a new computer and cause you to reactivate..... In the case of a Windows XP and Vista-based PC, there is an algorithm that examines hardware changes and, based on an internal score, determines whether a reactivation is required. When that happens, Windows will attempt to reactivate electronically. If that fails, the user will need to call and reactivate manually. This is the same under Vista as it was under XP, though again the algorithm has been updated to be less strict." This is where I get that it is no worse. Especially the last sentence. I will read the EULA's as soon as I can, but according to this part of the article, if it is reliable, there is nothing to stress over....
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Re: What is legal with the different flavors of Windows XP and their respective EULA'
Except for the part where you can only reactivate once?
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Re: What is legal with the different flavors of Windows XP and their respective EULA'
you are supposed to not be able to reactivate OEM home at all.
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Re: What is legal with the different flavors of Windows XP and their respective EULA'
Are you guys talking mainly about the OEM copies of Vista or the Retail copies? How I read it was talking about the OEM copies which are tied to the motherboard, but is the article also talking about the retail copies? I know a lot of us go cheap and get OEM, but for the few who are lucky enough to get the retail copies and have excess unopened boxes of XP Pro full retail and upgrade a lot this really is going to blow with Vista. I have a hard enough time keeping track of what XP key I have on what computer, I use a rolling key system that keeps one license of XP Pro open at all times (so sue me I have friends at MS that get me pro for cheap) for emergencies and such when i get a new computer or for testing on a computer (normally I don't activate on testing computers).
Darn MS for clarifying the EULA and making me use more licenses and waste them when I do my upgrades.
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Re: What is legal with the different flavors of Windows XP and their respective EULA'
Ive had to re-activate my version of XP Pro three times to date after installing various bits of hardware... It can be done over the net using XP's reactivation tool, or a phone call which lasts a couple of minutes, quite a simple process really.
Although, I must admit, the last time I had to re-activate, it was for enabling (Not Installing anything!) my motherboards onboard Ethernet port, as I was trying to see if my Ethernet card was faulty. That was strange for XP to ask for re-activation for enabling a port to say the least! |
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Re: What is legal with the different flavors of Windows XP and their respective EULA'
I use a modified install disc for XP.
XP Pro with Service Pack 2. Home-made. Luckily, I use my purchased OEM key on that machine and my main machine came with windows xp installed and a free "Upgrade to Vista" disc. Hurrah for Legalness.
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