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    Upgrading PC.

    Ok so, I've been looking and I think Ive come up with something I can afford and will work with what I have, I have $500, possibly $600 in total.

    I want to run BF3/Planetside2 and a few others on the highest settings I can with a steady FPS, Currently most are low/medium and can drop down to 20-30 fps at times,

    My current build is,

    Motherboard http://ca.gigabyte.com/products/prod...px?pid=3310#ov

    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 870 @ 2.93GHz.

    Memory DDR3 [PC3-10600] 4096 MBytes Kingston 905471-006.A01LF "I did have 8GB total ram, but a slot on the motherboard is broken, As far as I can tell both ram cards still work and its the motherboard which is broken."

    NVIDIA GeForce GTS 450

    600W power supply, enermax eg701ax-ve(w) noisetaker

    I need to upgrade my Motherboard, and Ive been told over and over, If Im going to upgrade my motherboard, Might as well upgrade the CPU along with the memory first.


    I'm looking to "upgrade" with this below,

    http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=71588&promoid=1209

    http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=70...n&promoid=1209

    http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=41...e=COOLERMASTER

    Which in total including shipping is about $410 Which leaves a possible $100-$200 left over.


    Id like to afford a new video card as well but I don't think it would be possible to do so with this pack Ive come up with, "Helped by HillBilly of course"


    Unless one of you can help me find a better deal, or even if this is a good deal.
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    Re: Upgrading PC.

    i7 870 is still a good cpu. It should have no issues with bf3/4 and if my i5 750 is any indication in ps2 it will mostly do fine there with occasional drops near 30fps in very heavy action. Your gpu is the problem.

    I would...

    - Get a new gpu
    - Overclock cpu more if possible
    - Consider 8gb ram - 2 4gb ram sticks since your motherboard only has 2 slots
    - If you want to spend more money after that - put ps2 on a ssd if you don't have one yet. That game benefits tremendously from it because it streams a lot.

    Then do a mb/cpu refresh a year or two later when the next must play game at decent frames is out.
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    Re: Upgrading PC.

    Well I was thinking the CPU I had was still decent, But I was told by several people to upgrade it first instead.

    I have no idea how to overclock,

    I did have 8gb ram "2x4GB" but I need a new motherboard because one of the Sockets/slots for the ram does not work so Im stuck with only one 4GB ram which is running at full for any game I play.

    The motherboard still needs to be replaced, it was damaged in a power outage a few months ago, as far as Ive been able to figure out.

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    Re: Upgrading PC.

    Buy the cooler and try turning up the clock speed on the cpu you have first. If it clocks decently to mid 3.x I bet you will see decent results in minimums right there. Then upgrade the video card to something a bit newer. Grabbing a 2x4 kit of ddr3 memory may help in some stability and you could save the other set for when you do get a different board and use both. Bottom line is the cpu you have is still very decent and it would be a shame to toss it out when it may have some untapped potential.

    EDIT: damn echo in here. consider a 2x8 kit then or just a 8gb stick. There should be plenty of overclocking guides available via google. It is fairly simple, avoid changing the voltage and you avoid all serious danger.
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    Re: Upgrading PC.

    I still need to replace my motherboard.

    So now I need to find one that is compatible with my current CPU along with a decent GPU to go with it, with a 2x8 GB kit.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814125418 Thinking that one.

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    Re: Upgrading PC.

    All of the parts you selected look good. I definitely say go with 7870, it's a solid GPU.

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    Re: Upgrading PC.

    Gotta agree with Mantis and Namebot here, your CPU is solid, get a cooler and then overclock it. Focus on GPU, RAM and SSD for the reasons given. A mild overclock to start with should see some increased performance and the difference between a mechanical drive and an SSD is night and day. You will pick up frames in any game that streams data from the drive. Again with the GPU look for a factory overclocked one. If you stay one generation behind, ie don't aim for Nvidia 680's you will get excellent bang for your buck, make sure you get something with 2GB of Vram, that will help too and give you a degree of future proofing.

    As regards SSD's, the price has plummeted. Intel are reliable but expensive for their size, OCZ are very fast but the difference in speed between the SSD's is only really noticeable (to someone new to SSD's) if you have a SATA 3 mobo, which you don't. As you would be going from a mechanical drive to solid state you will simply be in 'oh wow' territory so don't sweat a theoretical max on a piece of hardware you can't run. A good set of SSD's to look at is the new Samsung 830/840's I believe, very new. These use a triple layering technique which means you get more storage in less space and the manufacture process has decreased in cost. Thus the drives perform fantastically yet are relatively cheap. I will be picking up my second SSD very soon and I grabbing one of the Samsung's.

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    Re: Upgrading PC.

    The only problem with their suggestions is his current motherboard has a dead RAM slot. Tigerdirect.com has 0 options for a 1156 socket mobo, and when I checked Newegg they have 5 and it's slim pickings: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...ame=LGA%201156.

    How old is your mobo? Is it still under some type of warranty?

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    Re: Upgrading PC.

    The warranty for it was up probably a good year ago?

    http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...16813121388CVF

    That's the one I think would be best for now.

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    Re: Upgrading PC.

    I would at least get this one: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...82E16813138160

    Supports higher clocked RAM, 2 PCI-E 2.0 slots, more features overall.

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    Re: Upgrading PC.

    You can find a lot more 1156 boards on Amazon.

    http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_nr_sc...48254e4b7a0cb2



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    Re: Upgrading PC.

    Am going to have to second or third the recommendation of keeping the 1156, its a solid overclocking system. i7s in general are outstanding CPUs. Upgrade the CPU, motherboard on your next upgrade cycle. If you have the budget for it, get an enclosed liquid cooler like the Corsair H60 or H80. These allow for substantial cooling without the noise of HSF setups. I am OCing an i5 2500k @ 4.8Ghz with a Corsair H60, and normally you cant even tell I have my system on. During heavy gaming session, I dont even hear the fan for the H60 spin up; I will hear the GPU fan kick up in speed which ends up masking the H60 noise.

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    Re: Upgrading PC.

    Im keeping it for now, Its not that bad of a processor according to a few spec pages and what others have said.

    I do need a new motherboard, everything is currently limited because of the damaged ram slot, 4GB instead of the full 8GB, BF3 on low+origin+steam+teamspeak3 all have it nearly maxed out with the 4GB and has resulted in a few crashes and general slowness for everything.


    Im thinking http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...16813121388CVF

    And Either http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814161411 or http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicatio...01133&csid=_61 or http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicatio...&Sku=G458-0670

    Im not sure which one Is best for me, The 670 is "better" overall but I don't know if its worth the almost $100+ extra for the slight bump in performance over the other two, If I go with one of the cheaper ones, Im not sure out of the two brands to get, They seem pretty much exactly the same to me, and http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...ew,3107-7.html says they are pretty much on the same tier.


    If I go with the cheapest GPU I can afford either an SSD or a multi Terabyte HDD, or something else with the $160-$200 Ill have left over.

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    Re: Upgrading PC.

    The mobo is a good choice, as for the GPU its going to be alot of personal preference. Mine is the Nvidia mostly due to more stable driver support, but again personal preference. With your left over money, get the cooler I mentioned in my last post and a 120 GB SSD. I have the Kingston Hyperx 3k http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820239045. It has been an outstanding drive. Its kinda small, so you have to monitor what you put on your C:\ and its going to require a reinstall, unless you have an image of your current system. But I love mine.

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    Re: Upgrading PC.

    Like Beinseth said, GPU is preference. I've had a couple of Nvidia's and I don't like them one bit. I'll always get AMD or ATI

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