Microsoft anti-spyware

**CingularDuality** · 01-10-2005, 12:35 AM

Anyone tried it yet?

http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...e/default.mspx

**Wyzcrak** · 01-10-2005, 12:35 AM

I think I'll go install it now.

I've read this is the poop, and Spyware can't seem to get rid of Slotch.

**CingularDuality** · 01-10-2005, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Wyzcrak

I think I'll go install it now.

I've read this is the poop, and Spyware can't seem to get rid of Slotch.

I've heard the same thing and I'm installing now....

**Wyzcrak** · 01-10-2005, 12:45 AM

LOL it already found five or six things that Spybot (as opposed to "Spyware", which just shows it's past my bedtime) didn't, and it's only in minute 2 or a scan that's estimated to take just under 30 minutes....

**Wyzcrak** · 01-10-2005, 12:48 AM

.. and the list continues to grow...

It has found Slotch. Spybot has tried five times to remove Slotch, including steps taken during reboots. If this MS offering removes it, I'll be pleased.

It began its work by scanning memory. I don't recall seeing Spybot scan memory.

Nightfire · 01-10-2005, 01:04 AM

sounds like providence, let's give it a shot here in nightfire's laptop

Rampage · 01-10-2005, 12:49 PM

Keep in mind this is a beta, and as such may have some unforseen consequences. A few are reporting some false positives.
FWIW, I'm evaluating it as well...it looks pretty decent for now. I'll be shocked if they don't start charging for it (beta expires and will become unusable after July 31, 2005).

**=DdogG=** · 01-10-2005, 02:26 PM

Also, for some here this will be of note....

you must have a verifyable version of windows to get the DL.... and yes, it will be a pay for play after the 31st.

**CingularDuality** · 01-10-2005, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by =DdogG=

Also, for some here this will be of note....

you must have a verifyable version of windows to get the DL....

I didn't verify my version of windows, I just chose to download without verifying, then installed it with no problem. Keep in mind that when it updates, however, it sends "standard computer information" to MicroSoft, which includes your IP address, your system specs, your OS, etc... Read the privacy policy for details.

ImAWuss · 01-10-2005, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Rampage

Keep in mind this is a beta, and as such may have some unforseen consequences.

Just a note that Microsoft purchased this from a well known company. The product that it was before was excellent. Cant remember the name before, but I heard it on G4TechTV. They recomended it.

I installed this lastnight, and it found things here that adaware and spybot didn't... I'm happy with it so far.

ImAWuss · 01-10-2005, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by =DdogG=

.... and yes, it will be a pay for play after the 31st.

That's odd... Microsoft leaves these doors open, but will sell a product to close them... Closer and closer to not collecting $200, and going strait to jail. GG Microsoft.

**TheFeniX** · 01-10-2005, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ImAWuss

That's odd... Microsoft leaves these doors open, but will sell a product to close them... Closer and closer to not collecting $200, and going strait to jail. GG Microsoft.

Stock car alarms are basically useless: why don't car companies include better ones for free? Besides, Microsoft can't make up for all the ignorant PC users that click Yes to install every piece of softwae they come across.

ImAWuss · 01-10-2005, 07:13 PM

Although car companies do provide locks, and other security measures. Microsoft doesn't provide a "Stock" anti-spyware package.

What i'm getting at is here is this company that makes billions a year, and they cant supply a simple tool to fix their &(*! ups?

I'm sure i'll go back to spybot once the beta is up... it's just the idea dude.

Here's a way to cut your chances by 90%... http://firefox.com

**TheFeniX** · 01-10-2005, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ImAWuss

Although car companies do provide locks, and other security measures. Microsoft doesn't provide a "Stock" anti-spyware package.

No, but there's one built into the operator: it's called "common sense" and it can get you far.

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What i'm getting at is here is this company that makes billions a year, and they cant supply a simple tool to fix their &(*! ups?

You realize that ad-ware removal isn't just some "one-hit-wonder" program that you release and it work 100% all the time. It has to be updated because the people who write these spyware programs keep modifying their code to get around them.

Just like you don't expect EA games to pay money monthly for servers for YOU to play on, don't expect MS to go out of their way without charging (like MMO's, they run the servers and you pay them monthly).

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Here's a way to cut your chances by 90%... http://firefox.com

Refer to above quote by me. I run an ad-ware and virus scan once a week. They come up with nothing except some tracking cookies. I haven't been infected with a virus since the NYB (which was a floppy boot sector virus, so you know how old that is). I run IE 6.0, so based on the average Linux Junkie's view: I should be trojaned 6 ways from Sunday everytime I view a webpage, to bad I'm not.

Don't get me wrong, Mozilla is a great browser, but it's not a panacea. As long as there are ignorant PC users out there: I will have a job (no matter what software they run).

ImAWuss · 01-10-2005, 07:48 PM

Some people (Actualy most people) dont understand whats going on in their computer. (I'm not saying you dont) Whether it be because they simply are not technical people, or they have no common sense. I'm just simply stating that "hackers" are taking advantage of exploits in both the browser and operating system. So, I guess it's okay for Microsoft to now leave these doors open, and only have the people that pay more money be secure? Think about that.

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Wyzcrak Join Date: May 2003 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 14,139	Re: Microsoft anti-spyware I think I'll go install it now. I've read this is the poop, and Spyware can't seem to get rid of Slotch. __________________ Steam Community? Add me. \| Join #tacticalgamer \| Search Results Legend \| New Posts Forum Filter \| Postbox Toggle \| Live Thread Review \| One Line Results \| Free Remote, Encrypted Backup Darkilla: In short, NS is pretty much really fast chess. With guns. Apophis: I haven't seen anyone say that SM's are better than non-SMs. Nordbomber: This is THE first server I've seen where either side can comeback from out of seemingly nowhere with the right teamwork. en4rcment: I have NEVER experienced the type of gameplay that I have found here. Nightly I am amazed at the personalities and gaming talent. Root: Welcome to TG. Feel free to punctuate your sentences correctly. Monkerz: Its gonna take all my skills to beat those boys off in the future.

01-10-2005, 12:45 AM	#4 (permalink)
Wyzcrak Join Date: May 2003 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 14,139	Re: Microsoft anti-spyware LOL it already found five or six things that Spybot (as opposed to "Spyware", which just shows it's past my bedtime) didn't, and it's only in minute 2 or a scan that's estimated to take just under 30 minutes.... __________________ Steam Community? Add me. \| Join #tacticalgamer \| Search Results Legend \| New Posts Forum Filter \| Postbox Toggle \| Live Thread Review \| One Line Results \| Free Remote, Encrypted Backup Darkilla: In short, NS is pretty much really fast chess. With guns. Apophis: I haven't seen anyone say that SM's are better than non-SMs. Nordbomber: This is THE first server I've seen where either side can comeback from out of seemingly nowhere with the right teamwork. en4rcment: I have NEVER experienced the type of gameplay that I have found here. Nightly I am amazed at the personalities and gaming talent. Root: Welcome to TG. Feel free to punctuate your sentences correctly. Monkerz: Its gonna take all my skills to beat those boys off in the future.

01-10-2005, 12:48 AM	#5 (permalink)
Wyzcrak Join Date: May 2003 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 14,139	Re: Microsoft anti-spyware .. and the list continues to grow... It has found Slotch. Spybot has tried five times to remove Slotch, including steps taken during reboots. If this MS offering removes it, I'll be pleased. It began its work by scanning memory. I don't recall seeing Spybot scan memory. __________________ Steam Community? Add me. \| Join #tacticalgamer \| Search Results Legend \| New Posts Forum Filter \| Postbox Toggle \| Live Thread Review \| One Line Results \| Free Remote, Encrypted Backup Darkilla: In short, NS is pretty much really fast chess. With guns. Apophis: I haven't seen anyone say that SM's are better than non-SMs. Nordbomber: This is THE first server I've seen where either side can comeback from out of seemingly nowhere with the right teamwork. en4rcment: I have NEVER experienced the type of gameplay that I have found here. Nightly I am amazed at the personalities and gaming talent. Root: Welcome to TG. Feel free to punctuate your sentences correctly. Monkerz: Its gonna take all my skills to beat those boys off in the future.

01-10-2005, 01:04 AM	#6 (permalink)
Nightfire Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: United States Age: 22 Posts: 795	Re: Microsoft anti-spyware sounds like providence, let's give it a shot here in nightfire's laptop

01-10-2005, 12:49 PM	#7 (permalink)
Rampage Join Date: May 2003 Location: Vestavia Hills, AL Age: 38 Posts: 407	Re: Microsoft anti-spyware Keep in mind this is a beta, and as such may have some unforseen consequences. A few are reporting some false positives. FWIW, I'm evaluating it as well...it looks pretty decent for now. I'll be shocked if they don't start charging for it (beta expires and will become unusable after July 31, 2005).

01-10-2005, 02:26 PM	#8 (permalink)
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01-10-2005, 07:13 PM	#13 (permalink)
ImAWuss Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: New Hampshire, USA Age: 26 Posts: 557	Re: Microsoft anti-spyware Although car companies do provide locks, and other security measures. Microsoft doesn't provide a "Stock" anti-spyware package. What i'm getting at is here is this company that makes billions a year, and they cant supply a simple tool to fix their &(! ups? I'm sure i'll go back to spybot once the beta is up... it's just the idea dude. Here's a way to cut your chances by 90%... http://firefox.com __________________ Read the TG Primer, the TGNS Primer and most importantly, the TGNS Rules \| My Website!! birdie_in_Texas:ok..i feel stupid here..what is "NS"..? Wyzcrak:*Natural Selection. Don't feel at a loss for not knowing the acronym. Feel at a loss for not having experienced the game.

01-10-2005, 07:48 PM	#15 (permalink)
ImAWuss Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: New Hampshire, USA Age: 26 Posts: 557	Re: Microsoft anti-spyware Some people (Actualy most people) dont understand whats going on in their computer. (I'm not saying you dont) Whether it be because they simply are not technical people, or they have no common sense. I'm just simply stating that "hackers" are taking advantage of exploits in both the browser and operating system. So, I guess it's okay for Microsoft to now leave these doors open, and only have the people that pay more money be secure? Think about that. __________________ Read the TG Primer, the TGNS Primer and most importantly, the TGNS Rules \| My Website!! birdie_in_Texas:ok..i feel stupid here..what is "NS"..? Wyzcrak:Natural Selection. Don't feel at a loss for not knowing the acronym. Feel at a loss for not having experienced the game.

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