What to get

Karkianman101 · 06-12-2005, 02:53 PM

My birthday is in 7 days, and I figured I should get myself a computer upgrade.

XP
Athlon Barton 2600+ ~1.9 Ghz
Radeon 9700 pro
Abit uGURU; socket A
1 gig of RAM
Santa Cruz Turtle Beach 5.1

What should I upgrade? I'm thinking I'll have to choose 1 thing, and it'll be between a processor and a graphics card. Oh, and the processor would have to do Out-Of-Order processing.

Sniper · 06-12-2005, 03:52 PM

Probably your processor, or most likely, your video card

Screw the 9700 Pro, get a 9800xt/pro or something :P

(I'd upgrade the processor to make it a bit faster... the Radeon actually sounds fine for now

)

**kormendi** · 06-12-2005, 03:54 PM

Which processor you can get is tied directly to your motherboard. I tried browsing abit's webpage to see which CPUs are suppoted by your motherboard, but couldn't not find it. uGURU is not a motherboard model. But given that your motherboard is socket A, your options in upgrading your processor will be limited. I suggest you upgrade your motherboard and CPU. Perhaps to a socket 939 mobo and athlonXP CPU.

Upgrading your graphics card without having a sufficiently powerful CPU will not allow you to take full advantage of your new graphics card's capabilities.

Idealy you would upgrade both CPU and graphics card. It hard to choose between the two, but a new CPU will effect overall proformance.

Karkianman101 · 06-12-2005, 04:00 PM

I have the nVIDIA2 thingy under socket A, I'm pretty sure. I got it last fall. Whats the best processor Socket A can get?

**kormendi** · 06-12-2005, 04:25 PM

Your motherboard is probably one of these three below. The links show the supported processors. For the first 2 the max you can go is 3200+ and the last is 2700+

http://www.abit.com.tw/test_report/N...ries/index.php
http://www.abit.com.tw/test_report/AN7/index.php
http://www2.abit.com.tw/abitweb/webj...ort/NF7/01.php

I strongly suggest against upgrading only the processor. Even with a jump from 2600+ to 3200+ the gains would be insignificant.

You are really in a hard place. If you upgrade your motherboard along with your CPU you will probably want to get one that supports PCI-Express which also means getting a new graphics card.

**Vulcan** · 06-12-2005, 04:25 PM

you can use any of the AMD XP CPU's though if it's a sempron core you may have to update the bios.

**kormendi** · 06-12-2005, 04:39 PM

http://abit-usa.com/products/mb/sempron_cpu_support.php

This chart shows the sempron support for your motherboard.

**RGM-79N_GM_CUstom** · 06-12-2005, 08:01 PM

Get a new processor and mobo and get more RAM. 1GB is starting to become minimum.

=Sarc= · 06-12-2005, 08:30 PM

At least get the new mobo and processor. Right now, you could get the 3200 but you're paying ~$130 for a boost of 200 Mhz or so. Is that worth it?

Karkianman101 · 06-12-2005, 09:12 PM

I have the AN7. The second link.

EDIT: Apparently my motherboard supports PCI-Express as is. My dad also thinks that a getting a processor with a 512 cache instead of 256 will make a big difference. And my processor is an AMD XP 2600+ with a Barton core.

**kormendi** · 06-12-2005, 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karkianman101

Apparently my motherboard supports PCI-Express as is.

Ummm, no it doesnt. You may want to look over the specs

If you want to go with a CPU upgrade, I suggest this one.
It has 512 L2 cache and supports 400Mhz FSB. Should give you a little bit of a proformance boost, but will not be useful in the long run.

mightyfee · 06-17-2005, 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karkianman101

XP
Athlon Barton 2600+ ~1.9 Ghz
Radeon 9700 pro
Abit uGURU; socket A
1 gig of RAM
Santa Cruz Turtle Beach 5.1

What should I upgrade? I'm thinking I'll have to choose 1 thing, and it'll be between a processor and a graphics card. Oh, and the processor would have to do Out-Of-Order processing.

I'd go for a new motherboard and processor, the works. Your upgrade path is kind of of limited if you're still running a Barton chip. Get something that supports Socket 939. That way you can upgrade to the dual-core chips when the prices come down.

Then get an ATI X400 . . .

06-12-2005, 02:53 PM	#1 (permalink)
Karkianman101 Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: East Lansing Age: 20 Posts: 1,546	What to get My birthday is in 7 days, and I figured I should get myself a computer upgrade. XP Athlon Barton 2600+ ~1.9 Ghz Radeon 9700 pro Abit uGURU; socket A 1 gig of RAM Santa Cruz Turtle Beach 5.1 What should I upgrade? I'm thinking I'll have to choose 1 thing, and it'll be between a processor and a graphics card. Oh, and the processor would have to do Out-Of-Order processing.

06-12-2005, 03:52 PM	#2 (permalink)
Sniper Join Date: May 2003 Location: Memphis Age: 20 Posts: 1,724	Re: What to get Probably your processor, or most likely, your video card Screw the 9700 Pro, get a 9800xt/pro or something :P (I'd upgrade the processor to make it a bit faster... the Radeon actually sounds fine for now ) __________________ New Server1 IP. Read the stickies!! This is how you check your STEAMID and register it.

06-12-2005, 03:54 PM	#3 (permalink)
kormendi Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Fairfax, Virginia Age: 27 Posts: 2,173	Re: What to get Which processor you can get is tied directly to your motherboard. I tried browsing abit's webpage to see which CPUs are suppoted by your motherboard, but couldn't not find it. uGURU is not a motherboard model. But given that your motherboard is socket A, your options in upgrading your processor will be limited. I suggest you upgrade your motherboard and CPU. Perhaps to a socket 939 mobo and athlonXP CPU. Upgrading your graphics card without having a sufficiently powerful CPU will not allow you to take full advantage of your new graphics card's capabilities. Idealy you would upgrade both CPU and graphics card. It hard to choose between the two, but a new CPU will effect overall proformance.

06-12-2005, 04:00 PM	#4 (permalink)
Karkianman101 Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: East Lansing Age: 20 Posts: 1,546	Re: What to get I have the nVIDIA2 thingy under socket A, I'm pretty sure. I got it last fall. Whats the best processor Socket A can get?

06-12-2005, 04:25 PM	#5 (permalink)
kormendi Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Fairfax, Virginia Age: 27 Posts: 2,173	Re: What to get Your motherboard is probably one of these three below. The links show the supported processors. For the first 2 the max you can go is 3200+ and the last is 2700+ http://www.abit.com.tw/test_report/N...ries/index.php http://www.abit.com.tw/test_report/AN7/index.php http://www2.abit.com.tw/abitweb/webj...ort/NF7/01.php I strongly suggest against upgrading only the processor. Even with a jump from 2600+ to 3200+ the gains would be insignificant. You are really in a hard place. If you upgrade your motherboard along with your CPU you will probably want to get one that supports PCI-Express which also means getting a new graphics card.

06-12-2005, 04:25 PM	#6 (permalink)
Vulcan Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Montreal Age: 30 Posts: 7,574	Re: What to get you can use any of the AMD XP CPU's though if it's a sempron core you may have to update the bios. __________________ TG Primer - CSS SOP's - INS SOP's

06-12-2005, 04:39 PM	#7 (permalink)
kormendi Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Fairfax, Virginia Age: 27 Posts: 2,173	Re: What to get http://abit-usa.com/products/mb/sempron_cpu_support.php This chart shows the sempron support for your motherboard.

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=Sarc= Join Date: May 2003 Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 4,625	Re: What to get At least get the new mobo and processor. Right now, you could get the 3200 but you're paying ~$130 for a boost of 200 Mhz or so. Is that worth it? __________________ JO Guides & Tutorials Team Element - It's who you game with.

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Karkianman101 Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: East Lansing Age: 20 Posts: 1,546	Re: What to get I have the AN7. The second link. EDIT: Apparently my motherboard supports PCI-Express as is. My dad also thinks that a getting a processor with a 512 cache instead of 256 will make a big difference. And my processor is an AMD XP 2600+ with a Barton core. Last edited by Karkianman101; 06-12-2005 at 09:32 PM.

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