Memory Recommendations

AntiVisual · 08-10-2005, 10:34 AM

Ok all, I believe I am getting bottle necked at my memory spot as I am running some really old pc2700 memory.

I am looking to upgrade to either 2 or 3 gigs of memory that isn't to expensive and will give me a pretty good punch. Put your recommendations here and prices!

My specs currently are:
Mobo: Asus A7N8X Deluxe
Current memory: 1.5 gig of (2 512 2700 sticks I believe, and 1 512 pc3200) Kingston all around
Processor: AMD Athlon XP 3200+
Video Cards: ATI x800xt and ATI Elite Wonder Tv Tuner
Sound Card: Sound Blaster Live 24 bit
Case: Lian Li
Power supply: I don't remember, but will be upgrading to a 400 watt

Marco de Pollo · 08-10-2005, 10:42 AM

BF2 takes about 1,3Gb with all options at max so you should have enough if you don't run to many background applications.
You may get lower loadtime and have a better chance of getting the CO position or cap a flag before the rest, but I don't think you need to. On the other hand, FEAR and some other new games this autum would love 2GB+ so fire at will..

JMJ · 08-10-2005, 10:48 AM

This is what I ordered specifically to run BF2 with no issues:

http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merch...y_Code=DDR-PDP

Great memory for the price/performance. This is of course assuming you can use PC3200 at it's full speed.

Telorn · 08-10-2005, 10:51 AM

Go to Pricewatch and place this in the search:

corsair CMX1024-3200

You'll get a listing of Corsair 1 GB 3200 memory modules starting around $130. Your best bet is probably newegg because they offer free 2nd day shipping.

Corsair is the best memory, in my opinion. I run 2 512 MB 3200 Corsairs myself.

And you will see a huge difference in performance, because with your current setting I suspect your dual memory channel is not working.

AntiVisual · 08-10-2005, 11:00 AM

Thanks for the suggestions. Anymore would still be appreciated.

Marco, I do lots of video editing for my site and I also try to record using FRAPS while playing. So, I need as much memory as I can get. My mobo tops off at 3 GB i know for sure.

I have never heard of Patriot, is it a decent brand?

BadKarma · 08-10-2005, 11:34 AM

Patriot is sound mate, that's a nice bargian if you ask me, half the price of what we pay in the UK. 2x1GB is enough for anything and being as you've got 2 stick, (not 4x512), you don't have to worry about you mobo defaulting to 2T.

Good choice im my opinion.

Telorn · 08-10-2005, 12:20 PM

3GB memory will actually lower your performance because your MB won't be able to run in dual channel mode, effectively cutting your memory access speed in half.

AntiVisual · 08-10-2005, 12:47 PM

Well, then it looks like I'll go with the 2 GB patriot. WHy won't it run dual channel with that extra stick? I am not a hardware expert.

Spyder · 08-10-2005, 01:33 PM

It's not just dual channel that causes issues. The Socket A line mobo's can't transmit data fast enough to efficiently utalize chips larger than 512mb. They also have problems if you're using more than 2 ram slots on your motherboard. If you're using 1GB ram modules, or several modules there is latency generated from the mobo that hurts your performance. Get 1GB of good PC3200 (2x512) and remove the slower stuff. Remember, ram only runs at the speed of the slowest module. So having pc2700 in with pc3200 means all memory is running at pc2700.

And, Contrary to popular belief, you can run ultra quality settings with 1 GB, provided you're playing at a sane resolution (1024x constitutes a sane resolution). The only reason you need 3GB of ram is because you're trying to play at 16xx+ resolutions. The higher the res, the more ram your PC needs.

In order to run in dual channel all your memory needs to be in pairs (2 sticks of 512, two sticks of 1gb, etc.), and most mobo's only have dual channel support on the first two ram slots.

And also, don't go cheap with your PSU. Buy a quality Namebrand like Antec (which I highly highly recommend) You might be surprised at how much your PSU is effecting your PC's performance as well.

AntiVisual · 08-10-2005, 02:11 PM

So spyder, you believe that 2, 512 sticks in the right slots will be better than 2, 1 GB sticks?

Spyder · 08-10-2005, 02:18 PM

I believe it can be based on your setup. If you like playing in really high resolutions, then by all means get more ram. it causes latency, yes, but you won't notice it over the general power draw from running it that high anyway. If you only play in 1024x resolution anyway, then I don't see a point in getting more than 1GB. It's all about give and take based on your personal preference.

AntiVisual · 08-10-2005, 02:36 PM

I see, well i just upgraded my vidoe card from a 9500 pro. So, I have been running on low setting the whole time anyway, but let me tell you want I mainly you use my computer for.

#1, I do small amounts of video editing for my site just about everyday. It is mostly just encoding.

#2 I am also trying ot run FRAPS while playing to record videos. I don't play at any super high resolution and don't really care too just medium/high settings are nice.

So, these are the two main things I use my computer for. Based on this what would you or anyone else that wants to chime in suggest. All, I want to know is if I get 2, 1 GB sticks they will at least run better than 2, 512 sticks with what I want to do.

Spyder · 08-10-2005, 02:57 PM

With video editing and especially rendering, I would deffinantly suggest the more ram the better. FRAPS is also very ram-intensive. If it's not a big deal in your gaming, Then I'd say go with the 1GB sticks, as they will make a difference in your rendering times, and as an added bonus you can play in higher resolutions if you want

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AntiVisual · 08-10-2005, 03:04 PM

Thats what I figured, 2 GB it is, and I will leave the third slow open of course.

Now to choose the brand, it seems the patriots seem to have pretty good reviews and best bang for buck, so I guess I'll stick with those.

Xink · 08-10-2005, 03:19 PM

ive never heard of that brand, im looking for some new sticks myself, currently running x4 512 value with its obvious faults and require some quality stuff,

08-10-2005, 10:34 AM	#1 (permalink)
AntiVisual Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 494	Memory Recommendations Ok all, I believe I am getting bottle necked at my memory spot as I am running some really old pc2700 memory. I am looking to upgrade to either 2 or 3 gigs of memory that isn't to expensive and will give me a pretty good punch. Put your recommendations here and prices! My specs currently are: Mobo: Asus A7N8X Deluxe Current memory: 1.5 gig of (2 512 2700 sticks I believe, and 1 512 pc3200) Kingston all around Processor: AMD Athlon XP 3200+ Video Cards: ATI x800xt and ATI Elite Wonder Tv Tuner Sound Card: Sound Blaster Live 24 bit Case: Lian Li Power supply: I don't remember, but will be upgrading to a 400 watt __________________ [age-c1][gchq-c1][support] TG-1st MIP(Currently Retired)

08-10-2005, 10:42 AM	#2 (permalink)
Marco de Pollo Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 27	Re: Memory Recommendations BF2 takes about 1,3Gb with all options at max so you should have enough if you don't run to many background applications. You may get lower loadtime and have a better chance of getting the CO position or cap a flag before the rest, but I don't think you need to. On the other hand, FEAR and some other new games this autum would love 2GB+ so fire at will.. __________________ "That is not an ordinary rabbit ... 'tis the most foul cruel and bad-tempered thing you ever set eyes on ... that rabbit's got a vicious streak. It's a killer"

08-10-2005, 10:48 AM	#3 (permalink)
JMJ Join Date: Jun 2005 Age: 37 Posts: 4,074	Re: Memory Recommendations This is what I ordered specifically to run BF2 with no issues: http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merch...y_Code=DDR-PDP Great memory for the price/performance. This is of course assuming you can use PC3200 at it's full speed.

08-10-2005, 10:51 AM	#4 (permalink)
Telorn Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Georgia Age: 27 Posts: 2,187	Re: Memory Recommendations Go to Pricewatch and place this in the search: corsair CMX1024-3200 You'll get a listing of Corsair 1 GB 3200 memory modules starting around $130. Your best bet is probably newegg because they offer free 2nd day shipping. Corsair is the best memory, in my opinion. I run 2 512 MB 3200 Corsairs myself. And you will see a huge difference in performance, because with your current setting I suspect your dual memory channel is not working. __________________ Telorn

08-10-2005, 11:00 AM	#5 (permalink)
AntiVisual Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 494	Re: Memory Recommendations Thanks for the suggestions. Anymore would still be appreciated. Marco, I do lots of video editing for my site and I also try to record using FRAPS while playing. So, I need as much memory as I can get. My mobo tops off at 3 GB i know for sure. I have never heard of Patriot, is it a decent brand? __________________ [age-c1][gchq-c1][support] TG-1st MIP(Currently Retired)

08-10-2005, 11:34 AM	#6 (permalink)
BadKarma Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 8	Re: Memory Recommendations Patriot is sound mate, that's a nice bargian if you ask me, half the price of what we pay in the UK. 2x1GB is enough for anything and being as you've got 2 stick, (not 4x512), you don't have to worry about you mobo defaulting to 2T. Good choice im my opinion. __________________ AMD64 3500+ \| Abit AV8 3rd Eye \| 2x512 PC3200 Ballistix 2-2-2-5 \| X800XTPE

08-10-2005, 12:20 PM	#7 (permalink)
Telorn Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Georgia Age: 27 Posts: 2,187	Re: Memory Recommendations 3GB memory will actually lower your performance because your MB won't be able to run in dual channel mode, effectively cutting your memory access speed in half. __________________ Telorn

08-10-2005, 12:47 PM	#8 (permalink)
AntiVisual Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 494	Re: Memory Recommendations Well, then it looks like I'll go with the 2 GB patriot. WHy won't it run dual channel with that extra stick? I am not a hardware expert. __________________ [age-c1][gchq-c1][support] TG-1st MIP(Currently Retired)

08-10-2005, 01:33 PM	#9 (permalink)
Spyder Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: MN (Middle of Nowhere, MN) Age: 25 Posts: 984	Re: Memory Recommendations It's not just dual channel that causes issues. The Socket A line mobo's can't transmit data fast enough to efficiently utalize chips larger than 512mb. They also have problems if you're using more than 2 ram slots on your motherboard. If you're using 1GB ram modules, or several modules there is latency generated from the mobo that hurts your performance. Get 1GB of good PC3200 (2x512) and remove the slower stuff. Remember, ram only runs at the speed of the slowest module. So having pc2700 in with pc3200 means all memory is running at pc2700. And, Contrary to popular belief, you can run ultra quality settings with 1 GB, provided you're playing at a sane resolution (1024x constitutes a sane resolution). The only reason you need 3GB of ram is because you're trying to play at 16xx+ resolutions. The higher the res, the more ram your PC needs. In order to run in dual channel all your memory needs to be in pairs (2 sticks of 512, two sticks of 1gb, etc.), and most mobo's only have dual channel support on the first two ram slots. And also, don't go cheap with your PSU. Buy a quality Namebrand like Antec (which I highly highly recommend) You might be surprised at how much your PSU is effecting your PC's performance as well. __________________ a.k.a. NinjaPirateAssassin Celibacy is not Hereditary. Everybody should believe in something - I believe I'll have another drink. Happiness is like wetting your pants, everyone can see it but only you can feel the warmth. Flying is easy, Just throw yourself at the ground and miss!

08-10-2005, 02:11 PM	#10 (permalink)
AntiVisual Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 494	Re: Memory Recommendations So spyder, you believe that 2, 512 sticks in the right slots will be better than 2, 1 GB sticks? __________________ [age-c1][gchq-c1][support] TG-1st MIP(Currently Retired)

08-10-2005, 02:18 PM	#11 (permalink)
Spyder Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: MN (Middle of Nowhere, MN) Age: 25 Posts: 984	Re: Memory Recommendations I believe it can be based on your setup. If you like playing in really high resolutions, then by all means get more ram. it causes latency, yes, but you won't notice it over the general power draw from running it that high anyway. If you only play in 1024x resolution anyway, then I don't see a point in getting more than 1GB. It's all about give and take based on your personal preference. __________________ a.k.a. NinjaPirateAssassin Celibacy is not Hereditary. Everybody should believe in something - I believe I'll have another drink. Happiness is like wetting your pants, everyone can see it but only you can feel the warmth. Flying is easy, Just throw yourself at the ground and miss!

08-10-2005, 02:36 PM	#12 (permalink)
AntiVisual Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 494	Re: Memory Recommendations I see, well i just upgraded my vidoe card from a 9500 pro. So, I have been running on low setting the whole time anyway, but let me tell you want I mainly you use my computer for. #1, I do small amounts of video editing for my site just about everyday. It is mostly just encoding. #2 I am also trying ot run FRAPS while playing to record videos. I don't play at any super high resolution and don't really care too just medium/high settings are nice. So, these are the two main things I use my computer for. Based on this what would you or anyone else that wants to chime in suggest. All, I want to know is if I get 2, 1 GB sticks they will at least run better than 2, 512 sticks with what I want to do. __________________ [age-c1][gchq-c1][support] TG-1st MIP(Currently Retired)

08-10-2005, 02:57 PM	#13 (permalink)
Spyder Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: MN (Middle of Nowhere, MN) Age: 25 Posts: 984	Re: Memory Recommendations With video editing and especially rendering, I would deffinantly suggest the more ram the better. FRAPS is also very ram-intensive. If it's not a big deal in your gaming, Then I'd say go with the 1GB sticks, as they will make a difference in your rendering times, and as an added bonus you can play in higher resolutions if you want . __________________ a.k.a. NinjaPirateAssassin Celibacy is not Hereditary. Everybody should believe in something - I believe I'll have another drink. Happiness is like wetting your pants, everyone can see it but only you can feel the warmth. Flying is easy, Just throw yourself at the ground and miss!

08-10-2005, 03:04 PM	#14 (permalink)
AntiVisual Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 494	Re: Memory Recommendations Thats what I figured, 2 GB it is, and I will leave the third slow open of course. Now to choose the brand, it seems the patriots seem to have pretty good reviews and best bang for buck, so I guess I'll stick with those. __________________ [age-c1][gchq-c1][support] TG-1st MIP(Currently Retired)

08-10-2005, 03:19 PM	#15 (permalink)
Xink Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: England Age: 21 Posts: 793	Re: Memory Recommendations ive never heard of that brand, im looking for some new sticks myself, currently running x4 512 value with its obvious faults and require some quality stuff, __________________

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