First Components of my new Rig.

Anubis_Maximus · 11-06-2005, 06:38 PM

-Asus K8V SE Deluxe Socket 754 ATX Motherboard
-AMD Athlon 64 3700+ 2.40GHz
-(3)Ultra 512MB PC3200 DDR 400MHz CL3 Memory
$330

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...042&CatId=1734

-ASPIRE X-Dreamer II ATXB4KLW-BK Black Computer Case With Side Panel Window - Retail w/420 watt power supply
$53

Now I don't know what graphics card to get, since I don't think that motherboard supports PCI express.

Acid · 11-06-2005, 06:55 PM

I would suggest a Radeon card. One of the 9000 series are good and work on APG slots. the X.... series works on the PCI-Express slots.

Steel_Penguin · 11-06-2005, 07:07 PM

Buy from Newegg. TigerDirect has a pretty bad record. I also wouldn't get socket 754 because of upgradeability. Ultra is a crappy brand, and $300 is way too much to pay for memory IMO. Here's some links to equivalent stuff from newegg.

DFI NF4 Ultra-D Socket 939 -
AMD Athlon 64 3700+ socket 939 (San Diego)
OCZ Value Series 2GB(2x1GB) PC3200

The memory ends comes out alot cheaper than the other one and OCZ is a good brand. Most good memory manufacturers value lines are pretty much the same as the expensive stuff anyway.

I would also get a better case. That included power supply is probably generic and might crap out on you. I suggest Antec. Good power supplies and well made cases.

Antec Sonata w/ 450w PS

For the graphics card I would get a 6600GT or a 6800GT depending on your budget whether or not you get the above motherboard, which has PCE-e, or the other board, which is stuck with AGP.EVGA,Leadtek, and BFG are good brands too look at.
Be careful of XFX though,even though they are usually the cheapest people have had problems with their customer support and faulty cards.

Leadtek 6600GT
EVGA 6800GT

Hope all that helps.

Penguin

Steel_Penguin · 11-06-2005, 07:11 PM

Just in case here's Tigerdirect's resellerratings along with Newegg's . I can personally vouch for Newegg. Great shipping and customer service. I sent a motherboard in for a repair and the sent me a brand new board!

Anubis_Maximus · 11-06-2005, 07:21 PM

What would you suggest, Pentium or athlon?

Steel_Penguin · 11-06-2005, 07:23 PM

Athlon. Hence the links to an Athlon processor and Mobo

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Acid · 11-06-2005, 07:30 PM

LOL. Athlon and AMD are the future in gaming, if they can take full advantage of the 64 bit processing.

Anubis_Maximus · 11-06-2005, 07:32 PM

And does that motherboard u suggested support 4200 memory? The memory on the other site was 35 dollars per 512 mb. Thnx for everything Steel, helped a lot!

Steel_Penguin · 11-06-2005, 07:38 PM

Just get 3200 IMO. And yes it probably does if you must have a higher number but it doesen't make too much of a performance difference. If you are going to buy your stuff from tigerdirect then at least make shure the memory isn't Ultra brand. Crappy stuff all around. Corsair, OCZ, and Kinston are good brands ( I know there are more but that's off the top of my head).

Penguin

Anubis_Maximus · 11-06-2005, 08:22 PM

What does it mean on the motherboard when it says NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra ATX AMD Motherboard , does that mean it only supports Nvidia cards?

Steel_Penguin · 11-06-2005, 08:32 PM

No that's just the chipset. It will supoport ATI cards just fine. I still like Nvidia better for graphics cards though

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**Tempus** · 11-06-2005, 08:48 PM

Why are you getting 3 512MB memory chips?

Definitely go with the Penguin's suggestions.

**Vulcan** · 11-06-2005, 08:57 PM

I'd go with the 6800 agp card personally. Great card.

Anubis_Maximus · 11-06-2005, 09:02 PM

Cool, well Steel Penguin, I hope you know your stuff cuz I think I'm gonna go with your suggestions. For that case, does it need another fan for the side since it only comes with a 120mm fan?

Computer Gaming Rig

-DFI LANPARTY UT nF4 Ultra-D Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra ATX AMD Motherboard – Retail-$125 -$2 shipping
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813136152

-AMD Athlon 64 3700+ San Diego 1GHz FSB 1MB L2 Cache Socket 939 Processor – Retail-$233 - Free shipping
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813136152

-CORSAIR XMS 1GB (2 x 512MB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM Unbuffered DDR 400 (PC 3200) Dual Channel Kit System Memory – Retail - $117 – Free shipping
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145450

-Antec LifeStyle SONATA II Piano Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 450Watt SmartPower 2.0 ATX 12V V2.0 for AMD & Intel systems Power Supply – Retail -$99 -$18.99 shipping

eVGA 256-P2-N376-AX Geforce 6800GT 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card – Retail – $284.99 -$3.50 shipping
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130215

Thats a total of $883.48 for what appears to me to be a kick-ass rig.

Anubis_Maximus · 11-06-2005, 09:52 PM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822145072, HITACHI Deskstar 7K250 14R9463 160GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache Serial ATA150 Hard Drive – OEM - $76.50 - $3.49 shipping thats for storage. and the reason for 3 512s is because I read recent tech study showed that multiple 512s runs faster than larger single memory units.

11-06-2005, 06:38 PM	#1 (permalink)
Anubis_Maximus Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 64	First Components of my new Rig. -Asus K8V SE Deluxe Socket 754 ATX Motherboard -AMD Athlon 64 3700+ 2.40GHz -(3)Ultra 512MB PC3200 DDR 400MHz CL3 Memory $330 http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...042&CatId=1734 -ASPIRE X-Dreamer II ATXB4KLW-BK Black Computer Case With Side Panel Window - Retail w/420 watt power supply $53 Now I don't know what graphics card to get, since I don't think that motherboard supports PCI express.

11-06-2005, 06:55 PM	#2 (permalink)
Acid Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: MA Posts: 3,581	Re: First Components of my new Rig. I would suggest a Radeon card. One of the 9000 series are good and work on APG slots. the X.... series works on the PCI-Express slots. __________________

11-06-2005, 07:07 PM	#3 (permalink)
Steel_Penguin Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Florida,USA Age: 20 Posts: 1,970	Re: First Components of my new Rig. Buy from Newegg. TigerDirect has a pretty bad record. I also wouldn't get socket 754 because of upgradeability. Ultra is a crappy brand, and $300 is way too much to pay for memory IMO. Here's some links to equivalent stuff from newegg. DFI NF4 Ultra-D Socket 939 - AMD Athlon 64 3700+ socket 939 (San Diego) OCZ Value Series 2GB(2x1GB) PC3200 The memory ends comes out alot cheaper than the other one and OCZ is a good brand. Most good memory manufacturers value lines are pretty much the same as the expensive stuff anyway. I would also get a better case. That included power supply is probably generic and might crap out on you. I suggest Antec. Good power supplies and well made cases. Antec Sonata w/ 450w PS For the graphics card I would get a 6600GT or a 6800GT depending on your budget whether or not you get the above motherboard, which has PCE-e, or the other board, which is stuck with AGP.EVGA,Leadtek, and BFG are good brands too look at. Be careful of XFX though,even though they are usually the cheapest people have had problems with their customer support and faulty cards. Leadtek 6600GT EVGA 6800GT Hope all that helps. Penguin __________________ _____________________ ---

11-06-2005, 07:11 PM	#4 (permalink)
Steel_Penguin Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Florida,USA Age: 20 Posts: 1,970	Re: First Components of my new Rig. Just in case here's Tigerdirect's resellerratings along with Newegg's . I can personally vouch for Newegg. Great shipping and customer service. I sent a motherboard in for a repair and the sent me a brand new board! __________________ _____________________ ---

11-06-2005, 07:21 PM	#5 (permalink)
Anubis_Maximus Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 64	Re: First Components of my new Rig. What would you suggest, Pentium or athlon?

11-06-2005, 07:23 PM	#6 (permalink)
Steel_Penguin Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Florida,USA Age: 20 Posts: 1,970	Re: First Components of my new Rig. Athlon. Hence the links to an Athlon processor and Mobo . __________________ _____________________ ---

11-06-2005, 07:30 PM	#7 (permalink)
Acid Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: MA Posts: 3,581	Re: First Components of my new Rig. LOL. Athlon and AMD are the future in gaming, if they can take full advantage of the 64 bit processing. __________________

11-06-2005, 07:32 PM	#8 (permalink)
Anubis_Maximus Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 64	Re: First Components of my new Rig. And does that motherboard u suggested support 4200 memory? The memory on the other site was 35 dollars per 512 mb. Thnx for everything Steel, helped a lot!

11-06-2005, 07:38 PM	#9 (permalink)
Steel_Penguin Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Florida,USA Age: 20 Posts: 1,970	Re: First Components of my new Rig. Just get 3200 IMO. And yes it probably does if you must have a higher number but it doesen't make too much of a performance difference. If you are going to buy your stuff from tigerdirect then at least make shure the memory isn't Ultra brand. Crappy stuff all around. Corsair, OCZ, and Kinston are good brands ( I know there are more but that's off the top of my head). Penguin __________________ _____________________ ---

11-06-2005, 08:22 PM	#10 (permalink)
Anubis_Maximus Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 64	Re: First Components of my new Rig. What does it mean on the motherboard when it says NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra ATX AMD Motherboard , does that mean it only supports Nvidia cards?

11-06-2005, 08:32 PM	#11 (permalink)
Steel_Penguin Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Florida,USA Age: 20 Posts: 1,970	Re: First Components of my new Rig. No that's just the chipset. It will supoport ATI cards just fine. I still like Nvidia better for graphics cards though . __________________ _____________________ ---

11-06-2005, 08:48 PM	#12 (permalink)
Tempus Join Date: May 2003 Location: Miami, FL Age: 38 Posts: 8,234	Re: First Components of my new Rig. Why are you getting 3 512MB memory chips? Definitely go with the Penguin's suggestions. __________________ Battlefield 2/2142 Game Officer Contact me with server/player/admin issues. -- Suits are what you wear when doing things you shouldn’t want to do anyway. FROM THE TACTICAL GAMER PRIMER. 3) Support game play in a near-simulation environment. Where the focus of play would not be solely on doing what it takes to win, but doing so utilizing real-world combat strategy and tactics rather than leveraging exploits provided to players by the design of the game engine.

11-06-2005, 08:57 PM	#13 (permalink)
Vulcan Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Montreal Age: 30 Posts: 7,547	Re: First Components of my new Rig. I'd go with the 6800 agp card personally. Great card. __________________ TG Primer - CSS SOP's - INS SOP's

11-06-2005, 09:02 PM	#14 (permalink)
Anubis_Maximus Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 64	Re: First Components of my new Rig. Cool, well Steel Penguin, I hope you know your stuff cuz I think I'm gonna go with your suggestions. For that case, does it need another fan for the side since it only comes with a 120mm fan? Computer Gaming Rig -DFI LANPARTY UT nF4 Ultra-D Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra ATX AMD Motherboard – Retail-$125 -$2 shipping http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813136152 -AMD Athlon 64 3700+ San Diego 1GHz FSB 1MB L2 Cache Socket 939 Processor – Retail-$233 - Free shipping http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813136152 -CORSAIR XMS 1GB (2 x 512MB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM Unbuffered DDR 400 (PC 3200) Dual Channel Kit System Memory – Retail - $117 – Free shipping http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145450 -Antec LifeStyle SONATA II Piano Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 450Watt SmartPower 2.0 ATX 12V V2.0 for AMD & Intel systems Power Supply – Retail -$99 -$18.99 shipping eVGA 256-P2-N376-AX Geforce 6800GT 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card – Retail – $284.99 -$3.50 shipping http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130215 Thats a total of $883.48 for what appears to me to be a kick-ass rig. Last edited by Anubis_Maximus; 11-06-2005 at 10:22 PM.

11-06-2005, 09:52 PM	#15 (permalink)
Anubis_Maximus Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 64	Re: First Components of my new Rig. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822145072, HITACHI Deskstar 7K250 14R9463 160GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache Serial ATA150 Hard Drive – OEM - $76.50 - $3.49 shipping thats for storage. and the reason for 3 512s is because I read recent tech study showed that multiple 512s runs faster than larger single memory units. Last edited by Anubis_Maximus; 11-06-2005 at 10:22 PM.

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