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Old 02-06-2007, 04:05 PM   #31 (permalink)
 
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I wish this misinformation would stop floating around. 64bit Vista does not require all drivers to be signed. You can turn it off when running as administrator by issuing the following command and rebooting:

Bcdedit.exe /set nointegritychecks ON

If you wish to disable driver signing only for the current session, press F8 on boot.
>bcdedit /set nointegritychecks on
The boot configuration data store could not be opened.
Access is denied.

Sorry, no dice.

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Jep, are you able to alt-tab out of 2142? In Vista only, or XP as well?

That'd be reason enough for me to buy it.
I was running 2142 in Windowed mode for that screenshot. The problem with 2142 is that in DirectX when you alt-tab out of a full-screen window the graphics context is lost; D3D frees up all the resources on the graphics card so other programs can use it. The program needs to make a call back to D3D so it can reset its context and reload everything back onto the graphics card. 2142 is buggy and doesn't properly recreate its display context, so it usually just hangs.

However, when a DirectX program runs in Windowed mode, it doesn't lose context when you alt-tab out. So everything still works.
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Old 02-06-2007, 04:35 PM   #32 (permalink)
 
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Additional animated backgrounds and features that can be turned on and/or downloaded. Microsoft.
If you are talking about DreamScape, which is a bonus for Ultimate owners, it hasn't been released yet...it isn't due out until mid-year. Also, saying Ultimate has performance problems because users may choose to install some optional components is like saying XP has performance problems because I installed some Folding@Home software which continually maxes the CPU. It has nothing to do with the OS, it is software the user is choosing to run on it.

Maybe there are issues with Vista Ultimate, but I just haven't seen them nor seen anyone else give evidence of them. Throwing a statement out there that Vista Ultimate requires more resources than other versions of the OS is misinformation.
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Old 02-06-2007, 04:41 PM   #33 (permalink)
 
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>bcdedit /set nointegritychecks on
The boot configuration data store could not be opened.
Access is denied.

Sorry, no dice.
Hrm? That info comes straight from an MS whitepaper. Are you sure you are running the cmd prompt as administrator? Type "cmd" from the "start search" textbox and verify that the title of the cmd prompt says "Administrator: <cmd path>".

Does it say admin?
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Old 02-06-2007, 05:03 PM   #34 (permalink)
 
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Maybe there are issues with Vista Ultimate, but I just haven't seen them nor seen anyone else give evidence of them. Throwing a statement out there that Vista Ultimate requires more resources than other versions of the OS is misinformation.
OK, enough of this.. it was a casual forum thread about the various flavors of Vista. There is no (or very little) severe misinformation in this thread about Vista - as is normal in any thread about anything. Vista Ultimate inherently will use more system resources than the other 'packages' of the OS unless the installing party elects to disable or not install the additional features available that comprise Vista 'Ultimate' and make it 'Ultimate'

Vista is Vista. The packages are added features, if you purchase the package to utilize the additional features - then that package requires, or benefits from more system resources. So, likewise, is it not a true statement to say that Vista 'Basic' uses fewer resources than Vista 'Home Premium' because the features in 'Home Premium' simply are not available in 'Basic' - hence the difference of the two packages.

To my knowledge, Folding, is not a part of any XP or Vista package and such would not be a factor in making a package by package comparison, whereas something like BitLocker is - so, all things the same, and you buy the Ultimate package because you want Bitlocker to run along with Media Center Extender, that will require more system resources than choosing you don't need 'Ultimate' because you only desire to have MCE and don't need BitLocker (or insert any other 'Ultimate' feature here).

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Old 02-06-2007, 06:10 PM   #36 (permalink)
 
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For the record, preloading is sweet. Visual Studio loads in under a second under Vista.
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Old 02-06-2007, 06:54 PM   #37 (permalink)
 
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FYI, DreamScene is available if you know where to look.

So is anybody here running the Ultimate version with an 8800GTX with their latest beta drivers also playing BF2/POE without major issues? I do want to buy it, but I don't want to have crappy performance when BF2 runs great now on XP.
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Old 02-06-2007, 07:06 PM   #38 (permalink)
 
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i run it in premium with a 8800gtx with the latest drivers and i have no issues....about the same performance as XP. I still run it in xp though only because creative doesnt have drivers for vista yet. Sounds still works and all, i just dont think theres EAX.
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There are beta Creative drivers for the Audigy and X-Fi series. In 2142, I can set it to use the X-Fi setting and it's just like using XP. There's also ALchemy for OpenAL support in other games but that's for X-Fi only.
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Re: Vista Owners, Raise Your Hands.

Wish I could go back and change the topic title to: "Vista Discussion Thread".

Can anyone explain to me how the Aero "Flip" works and feels like?
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Old 02-07-2007, 02:37 AM   #41 (permalink)
 
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Wish I could go back and change the topic title to: "Vista Discussion Thread".

Can anyone explain to me how the Aero "Flip" works and feels like?
My screenshot is a sample of it in use. One of the things to realise about Aero is that when you get thumbnails of images, they're not just static images. It`s live, 100% speed. You hit Win+Tab and it cycles around, sort of like alt-tab. You can also enable it by clicking on an icon next to the start button, either way you can cycle windows with Win+Tab or just bring one to the front by clicking on it. It`ll take some time before I can decide whether it`s actually an improvement over alt-tab in terms of usability. It looks really, really sweet though.

I want to reiterate what I posted earlier. Pre-caching is sweet. Really, really, really sweet. I start programs and they just appear, instantly. Stuff that used to load in 15-30 seconds now loads in a second or two. Aero is also really, really responsive. All in all my computer feels about 10 times faster than it ever did under XP or Linux.

I`m giving voice recognition a try now and I`m pretty impressed at that too.

The new start menu takes some getting used to... you have the same sort of front-page as you had in XP, with a few items pinned to the top (Internet stuff, and you can pin other stuff there if you want), followed by a list of frequently used programs (a longer list than in XP). You can still go into the `All Programs` menu, although it`s a little clumsy to navigate; instead there`s a search box at the bottom which lets you search for programs by name. It`s ... well, I`ll just say it`s different. I use keyboard navigation very heavily, and if I hit the windows key, I can immediately start typing in the search box, then use the cursors to navigate up and down the result list. And under the programs list it also has a list of all matching files in my home directory.

I`ve now been using Vista for two days and I`m rapidly coming to the conclusion that it blows everything else out of the water (yes, OS X too).
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Hmm so with voice recognition, is it on par with that of the Enterprise E's computers? As in, can I give voice commands to open, execute, disable, type and such?

Is the precaching done with hard drive space or physical ram? And have you had any crashes that could be related to the precaching?

Also the Aero interface, when you switch/cycle through the windows, do they actually "flip" around?
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My screenshot is a sample of it in use. One of the things to realise about Aero is that when you get thumbnails of images, they're not just static images. It`s live, 100% speed. You hit Win+Tab and it cycles around, sort of like alt-tab. You can also enable it by clicking on an icon next to the start button, either way you can cycle windows with Win+Tab or just bring one to the front by clicking on it. It`ll take some time before I can decide whether it`s actually an improvement over alt-tab in terms of usability. It looks really, really sweet though.

I want to reiterate what I posted earlier. Pre-caching is sweet. Really, really, really sweet. I start programs and they just appear, instantly. Stuff that used to load in 15-30 seconds now loads in a second or two. Aero is also really, really responsive. All in all my computer feels about 10 times faster than it ever did under XP or Linux.

I`m giving voice recognition a try now and I`m pretty impressed at that too.

The new start menu takes some getting used to... you have the same sort of front-page as you had in XP, with a few items pinned to the top (Internet stuff, and you can pin other stuff there if you want), followed by a list of frequently used programs (a longer list than in XP). You can still go into the `All Programs` menu, although it`s a little clumsy to navigate; instead there`s a search box at the bottom which lets you search for programs by name. It`s ... well, I`ll just say it`s different. I use keyboard navigation very heavily, and if I hit the windows key, I can immediately start typing in the search box, then use the cursors to navigate up and down the result list. And under the programs list it also has a list of all matching files in my home directory.

I`ve now been using Vista for two days and I`m rapidly coming to the conclusion that it blows everything else out of the water (yes, OS X too).
I'm just wondering if your ' key is broken, or if there's another reason why you're using the ` key instead?
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Hi,
For my job I have to play around with all the new stuff. I have Vista on a 2nd HDD running it's doing fine so far but BF2 is only running in Windows 98/Me mode and PB (Punk Buster) gave me a hard time.
Other than that it's a nice operating system.

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Hmm so with voice recognition, is it on par with that of the Enterprise E's computers? As in, can I give voice commands to open, execute, disable, type and such?

Is the precaching done with hard drive space or physical ram? And have you had any crashes that could be related to the precaching?

Also the Aero interface, when you switch/cycle through the windows, do they actually "flip" around?
I haven't really played with the voice recognition yet. I was just testing it out for accuracy before.

As for windows flipping... honestly, I don't recall. Windows flip open and closed, and up and down when you open and close or minimize and restore them, respectively. When you open the Win+Tab thing, they slide and rotate into their new positions.

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I'm just wondering if your ' key is broken, or if there's another reason why you're using the ` key instead?
I accidentally changed my KB to some different layout and I hadn't noticed because it was late.

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For my job I have to play around with all the new stuff. I have Vista on a 2nd HDD running it's doing fine so far but BF2 is only running in Windows 98/Me mode and PB (Punk Buster) gave me a hard time.
Other than that it's a nice operating system.

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