How long does your Vista take to boot up? - Page 2

**Chewy** · 03-21-2007, 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twisted_Firestarter

And this is relevant to this "how long does your vista take to boot up" thread how?

Because no other thread has ever gotten off topic!

**Twisted_Firestarter** · 03-23-2007, 05:56 PM

**Twisted_Firestarter** · 04-19-2007, 06:52 PM

I forgot to mention that if you go to a boot peformance event, double-click on it, and then go to the Details tab it is chock-full of good drill-down info about how long things are taking to boot. You can see:

MainPathBootTime
BootKernelInitTime
BootDriverInitTime
BootDevicesInitTime
BootPrefetchInitTime
BootPrefetchBytes
BootAutoChkTime
BootSmssInitTime
BootCriticalServicesInitTime
BootUserProfileProcessingTime
BootMachineProfileProcessingTime
BootExplorerInitTime
BootNumStartupApps
BootPostBootTime

**Gambit7** · 04-22-2007, 02:00 AM

Mine is at about 45000 ms. Granted, I put my OS on my non-RAID drive because I wanted it on a separate disk from my games (games, data, and scratch files are raided). If I had put in on my RAID it'd be half that probably.

**Twisted_Firestarter** · 04-23-2007, 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fldash

E6600 Stock (Not overclocked)
4GB DDR2 800
WD SATA 36GB Raptor
GeForce GTS 8800 640MB
Vista 32-bit

29106ms is the fastest time I have on record.

I wonder what the differences in our systems are? I also have:

4GB DDR2 800
WD SATA 36GB Raptor
GeForce GTX 8800
Vista 32-bit

I was checking my latest boot times and it is 60 seconds. I don't have anything loaded at startup and I've disabled a number of useless services. I have less than 40 processes running after booting.

Could you (fdflash) and Ferris Bueller post your detailed bootup info from the log? I'd like to see where the major differences in boot time lies.

Note: It's easy to copy and paste the boot log info if you click the "friendly view" button in the details tab.

Thanks!

**Twisted_Firestarter** · 04-24-2007, 05:45 PM

Ah, I have determined the problem. The onboard audio drivers were taking at least 30 seconds to initialize. After disabling the onbard audio from BIOS my boot time is now 33 seconds. Here's a before and after look at the boot info. The first number is before and the second number is after:

BootTime 81459 / 33505
MainPathBootTime 58159 / 19405
BootKernelInitTime 17 / 17
BootDriverInitTime 859 / 1003
BootDevicesInitTime 25525 / 4776
BootPrefetchInitTime 33327 / 43771
BootPrefetchBytes 344,514,560 / 411,041,792
BootAutoChkTime 0 / 0
BootSmssInitTime 21406 / 7424
BootCriticalServicesInitTime 1174 / 685
BootUserProfileProcessingTime 3391 / 272
BootMachineProfileProcessingTime 540 / 808
BootExplorerInitTime 1165 / 1034
BootNumStartupApps 1 / 1
BootPostBootTime 23300 / 14100

Notice the BootDevicesInitTime is over 5x longer before I disabled the onboard audio. Crikey!

fldash · 04-25-2007, 12:21 AM

BootTime 26970
MainPathBootTime 13470
BootKernelInitTime 12
BootDriverInitTime 1341
BootDevicesInitTime 4430
BootPrefetchInitTime 38549
BootPrefetchBytes 344686592
BootAutoChkTime 0
BootSmssInitTime 2408
BootCriticalServicesInitTime 1603
BootUserProfileProcessingTime 194
BootMachineProfileProcessingTime 335
BootExplorerInitTime 632
BootNumStartupApps 6
BootPostBootTime 13500

micr0c0sm · 04-29-2007, 04:00 PM

Vista supports something i think called readyboot or boost or something.

It basically suspends to a usb drive and resumes from it, making it seem to boot real fast.

Don't be confused by the techno-jargon, it really is just suspend-resume.

For comparison, bootchartd shows my entire boot process (from pressing the power to opening firefox as 22938 ms ).

1.6ghz centrino rev 1
1gb ddr2 (533mhz) ram
5400rpm hard drive

**Twisted_Firestarter** · 04-29-2007, 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by micr0c0sm

Vista supports something i think called readyboot or boost or something.

ReadyBoost.

Quote:

Originally Posted by micr0c0sm

It basically suspends to a usb drive and resumes from it, making it seem to boot real fast. Don't be confused by the techno-jargon, it really is just suspend-resume.

Not entirely correct. ReadyBoost is primarly a caching mechanism. Caching state for Suspend/resume operations is a very small part of it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by micr0c0sm

For comparison, bootchartd shows my entire boot process (from pressing the power to opening firefox as 22938 ms ).

1. Are you running Vista?
2. I'm not sure what bootchartd is, but unless you are using the same eventlog benchmarks we are then the comparison is useless--apples to oranges; although I suspect you will have a fast boot time regardless of the benchmarking process.

micr0c0sm · 05-04-2007, 01:45 AM

I didn't want the thread to get off topic so I didn't specify what bootchartd was. I figured you could google it and find out if you were interested and the people who know what is it would get some comparison info.

And readyboost is caching a bit beyond suspend resume but not much. Its suspend resume + decent huerestic preloading all ordered correctly. My bad for not being so specific.

**Twisted_Firestarter** · 05-04-2007, 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by micr0c0sm

I didn't want the thread to get off topic

Hey, I'm surprised it stayed on topic this long.

You still didn't mention, are you running Vista?

micr0c0sm · 05-06-2007, 10:50 AM

**Twisted_Firestarter** · 05-06-2007, 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by micr0c0sm

No

Argh. I understand that people want to post their boot times, but really, I am ONLY interested in VISTA boot times for this thread.

**marstein** · 05-08-2007, 02:53 AM

BootTime">114230
MainPathBootTime">28268
BootKernelInitTime">26</Data>
BootDriverInitTime">3439</Data>
BootDevicesInitTime">4063</Data>
BootPrefetchInitTime">31882</Data>
BootPrefetchBytes">260837376</Data>
BootAutoChkTime">0</Data>
BootSmssInitTime">7539</Data>
BootCriticalServicesInitTime">792</Data>
BootUserProfileProcessingTime">1372</Data>
BootMachineProfileProcessingTime">5</Data>
BootExplorerInitTime">6204</Data>
BootNumStartupApps">24</Data>
BootPostBootTime">85962</Data>

What makes my prefetch init and explorer time so long?

**Twisted_Firestarter** · 05-08-2007, 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marstein

BootTime">114230
BootPrefetchInitTime">31882</Data>
BootPostBootTime">85962</Data>

What makes my prefetch init and explorer time so long?

Your init time looks ok, but your post boot time looks very high. It's 4x slower than mine and that is before I fixed my memory problems. BootPostBootTime measures the time it takes to load all the the drivers and processes that aren’t critical to user interaction. These are low-priority requests that will (should) always yields control to user-initiated actions. It isn't as important a number as say, BootDriverInitTime, because you are able to use the system before the process finishes.

You might want to use Defender to see exactly what is loading on startup and disable the non-essentials such as those dozens of systray apps that get installed on retail systems by default. I even disable autoloading instant messaging apps, daemon tools and the like to keep things speedy.

03-23-2007, 05:56 PM	#17 (permalink)
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04-19-2007, 06:52 PM	#18 (permalink)
Twisted_Firestarter Join Date: May 2003 Location: 90064 Posts: 935	Re: How long does your Vista take to boot up? I forgot to mention that if you go to a boot peformance event, double-click on it, and then go to the Details tab it is chock-full of good drill-down info about how long things are taking to boot. You can see: MainPathBootTime BootKernelInitTime BootDriverInitTime BootDevicesInitTime BootPrefetchInitTime BootPrefetchBytes BootAutoChkTime BootSmssInitTime BootCriticalServicesInitTime BootUserProfileProcessingTime BootMachineProfileProcessingTime BootExplorerInitTime BootNumStartupApps BootPostBootTime __________________ Twisted Firestarter a.k.a \|TG\| Harkonian

04-22-2007, 02:00 AM	#19 (permalink)
Gambit7 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Hollywood, FL Age: 32 Posts: 2,197	Re: How long does your Vista take to boot up? Mine is at about 45000 ms. Granted, I put my OS on my non-RAID drive because I wanted it on a separate disk from my games (games, data, and scratch files are raided). If I had put in on my RAID it'd be half that probably. __________________

04-24-2007, 05:45 PM	#21 (permalink)
Twisted_Firestarter Join Date: May 2003 Location: 90064 Posts: 935	Re: How long does your Vista take to boot up? Ah, I have determined the problem. The onboard audio drivers were taking at least 30 seconds to initialize. After disabling the onbard audio from BIOS my boot time is now 33 seconds. Here's a before and after look at the boot info. The first number is before and the second number is after: BootTime 81459 / 33505 MainPathBootTime 58159 / 19405 BootKernelInitTime 17 / 17 BootDriverInitTime 859 / 1003 BootDevicesInitTime 25525 / 4776 BootPrefetchInitTime 33327 / 43771 BootPrefetchBytes 344,514,560 / 411,041,792 BootAutoChkTime 0 / 0 BootSmssInitTime 21406 / 7424 BootCriticalServicesInitTime 1174 / 685 BootUserProfileProcessingTime 3391 / 272 BootMachineProfileProcessingTime 540 / 808 BootExplorerInitTime 1165 / 1034 BootNumStartupApps 1 / 1 BootPostBootTime 23300 / 14100 Notice the BootDevicesInitTime is over 5x longer before I disabled the onboard audio. Crikey! __________________ Twisted Firestarter a.k.a \|TG\| Harkonian

04-25-2007, 12:21 AM	#22 (permalink)
fldash Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Oklahoma City, OK Age: 29 Posts: 936	Re: How long does your Vista take to boot up? BootTime 26970 MainPathBootTime 13470 BootKernelInitTime 12 BootDriverInitTime 1341 BootDevicesInitTime 4430 BootPrefetchInitTime 38549 BootPrefetchBytes 344686592 BootAutoChkTime 0 BootSmssInitTime 2408 BootCriticalServicesInitTime 1603 BootUserProfileProcessingTime 194 BootMachineProfileProcessingTime 335 BootExplorerInitTime 632 BootNumStartupApps 6 BootPostBootTime 13500 __________________ It is by grace you have been saved, through faith - and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God - not by works, so that no one can boast. Ephesians 2:8-9/NIV

04-29-2007, 04:00 PM	#23 (permalink)
micr0c0sm Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 660	Re: How long does your Vista take to boot up? Vista supports something i think called readyboot or boost or something. It basically suspends to a usb drive and resumes from it, making it seem to boot real fast. Don't be confused by the techno-jargon, it really is just suspend-resume. For comparison, bootchartd shows my entire boot process (from pressing the power to opening firefox as 22938 ms ). 1.6ghz centrino rev 1 1gb ddr2 (533mhz) ram 5400rpm hard drive

05-04-2007, 01:45 AM	#25 (permalink)
micr0c0sm Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 660	Re: How long does your Vista take to boot up? I didn't want the thread to get off topic so I didn't specify what bootchartd was. I figured you could google it and find out if you were interested and the people who know what is it would get some comparison info. And readyboost is caching a bit beyond suspend resume but not much. Its suspend resume + decent huerestic preloading all ordered correctly. My bad for not being so specific.

05-06-2007, 10:50 AM	#27 (permalink)
micr0c0sm Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 660	Re: How long does your Vista take to boot up? No

05-08-2007, 02:53 AM	#29 (permalink)
marstein Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Half Moon Bay, CA, USA Age: 42 Posts: 840	Re: How long does your Vista take to boot up? BootTime">114230 MainPathBootTime">28268 BootKernelInitTime">26</Data> BootDriverInitTime">3439</Data> BootDevicesInitTime">4063</Data> BootPrefetchInitTime">31882</Data> BootPrefetchBytes">260837376</Data> BootAutoChkTime">0</Data> BootSmssInitTime">7539</Data> BootCriticalServicesInitTime">792</Data> BootUserProfileProcessingTime">1372</Data> BootMachineProfileProcessingTime">5</Data> BootExplorerInitTime">6204</Data> BootNumStartupApps">24</Data> BootPostBootTime">85962</Data> What makes my prefetch init and explorer time so long? __________________ Gigabyte P35-DS3R, 2GB, 8800GTS 640MB, Core2Duo E8400

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