Which Wireless Router Should I Purchase? - Page 2

**Eroak** · 06-24-2007, 03:13 PM

D-Link is run by 5 graders, I shouldn't say that because I'm insulting the 5th graders. Linksys also is scripted, but they are also trained well. Most common problems they can fix without reading the book. And if they have to, they are versed well enough to know what they are talking about. If you get a linksys newbie on the phone, call back and you should get a better person on the phone.

Linksys makes a network add-on that priotizes the gaming steam of the bandwidth. I forget what it's called but CompUSA carried it. I haven't researched it but I bet it works. Also there are some nice 3rd party firmware upgrades from the WRT54G model that really work.

Icehawk217 · 06-25-2007, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ScratchMonkey

That's the networking equivalent of "is it turned on?".

Yah, well you should have heard my friend's conversation with a Belkin woman. My god it was hilarious. Just to see how good (if at all) she was as a tech person, he did the same as me, no Ethernet card which was coming later the same day from newegg. She didnt get it right, and we spent an hour listening to her not figure it out. Anyway, just my $.02

**HgMaDHaTTeR** · 06-26-2007, 12:10 AM

Get the WRT-54GL and install DD-WRT (or Open-WRT if you have linux experience), it is very much better than the standard firmware. OpenWRT is more flexible, but more "fiddling under the hood" is required.

Zoopy · 06-26-2007, 12:35 AM

I have a DGL-4300 and I must say it is the nicest router I have had. It has a nice interface with plenty of options. The one biggest issue I have with it is that any major change you do requires the device to reboot. I don't understand why, it is very annoying though.

The QoS (or "gamefuel" as they call it) works preaty good if set up correctly. Although games like 2142 which have a crap load of ports is very time consuming.

Wireless is great on it, reaches from the basement up to my top floor (roughly three floors). with good strength and no drops.

My old DL-524 cut out all the time which is the reason I replaced it. If the DGL-4300 is on sale (less then $100CDN) then I would get it. $130CDN is quite pricey (I'm to lazy to look at USD).

Acreo Aeneas · 06-26-2007, 11:39 PM

Well, I ended up getting the WRT54GL based on recommendations from the above posters and after some thorough research on the "popularity" of that particular model and alternate firmware.

As for the Linksys "add-on" packet prioritizer, I have it. I bought it a while back, and I can tell you from experience, it does not work. I never noticed or saw any drop in lag or ping while playing any game online. Although it has helped make VoiP calls a little smoother when others on the network are downloading. It just doesn't work for games. And I have called Linksys to ask about what games it supports and they have told me that they don't know.

ScratchMonkey · 06-27-2007, 01:56 PM

Games and VOIP both predominantly use UDP while web, mail and P2P use TCP. The packet prioritizer likely lets UDP packets "cut the line" and go out before any queued TCP packets.

Acreo Aeneas · 06-28-2007, 11:17 PM

I thought I'd just update everyone. I got the WRT54GL today setup and running just fine. I also got the computer in the back room hooked up wirelessly with a 92% signal strength. Thanks to everyone to gave me feedback, suggestions, tips, and support!

**VegaBond** · 08-06-2007, 02:38 AM

I know old post but does anyone have or thinking of getting the Ruckus MediaFlex NG? http://www.ruckuswireless.com/products/mediaflex/ng/

Thinking of thowing out my old netgear

Acreo Aeneas · 08-08-2007, 12:49 PM

Just updating everyone again. I've rehooked that Linksys packet prioritizer back onto my network (between my modem and router) and it absolutely no effect on ping. I'm beginning to think it only works on console games and not on PC games.

Hmm, looks interesting. What's the price tag on that thing? And have you found any reviews on the Ruckus?

**CingularDuality** · 08-08-2007, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Acreo Aeneas

Just updating everyone again. I've rehooked that Linksys packet prioritizer back onto my network (between my modem and router) and it absolutely no effect on ping. I'm beginning to think it only works on console games and not on PC games.

Is it supposed to work even if your network isn't saturated? If your game's ping is already as fast as it can be, prioritizing isn't going to help anything!

**ednos** · 08-08-2007, 06:28 PM

You know what's really fun? Putting DD-WRT on your WRT54GL! If I can do it, anyone can.

Acreo Aeneas · 08-10-2007, 05:09 PM

@Cingular, my network is almost constantly saturated with bit-torrent downloads and youtube videos. That's when I usually test my gaming ping and that darn linksys game thingy doesn't help one bit. Complete waste of $40.

@ednos, err yea...DD-WRT. I have not messed with it since I do not want to brick my router if end up rushing the install process.

**ednos** · 08-10-2007, 06:50 PM

From what I hear, it's nearly impossible to brick your router, despite all the warnings. However, since I want to be in no way legally responsible for any of this, let me warn you that you might brick your router, even if all you did was look at it funny, or press Down+B in Super Smash Brothers.

mentholated · 08-10-2007, 10:17 PM

Whatever you do, avoid linksys. Dirty bastards.

edit: unless you use dd-wrt, but even then theres some problems like mass-connections causing the router to lock up

**CingularDuality** · 08-11-2007, 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by mentholated

Whatever you do, avoid linksys. Dirty bastards.

Why? That's all I'll ever buy.

06-24-2007, 03:13 PM	#16 (permalink)
Eroak Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Bucks County, PA Age: 28 Posts: 3,482	Re: Which Wireless Router Should I Purchase? D-Link is run by 5 graders, I shouldn't say that because I'm insulting the 5th graders. Linksys also is scripted, but they are also trained well. Most common problems they can fix without reading the book. And if they have to, they are versed well enough to know what they are talking about. If you get a linksys newbie on the phone, call back and you should get a better person on the phone. Linksys makes a network add-on that priotizes the gaming steam of the bandwidth. I forget what it's called but CompUSA carried it. I haven't researched it but I bet it works. Also there are some nice 3rd party firmware upgrades from the WRT54G model that really work. __________________ \|Think Tank\|TGU Admin\|BFx Admin\|Community Improvement\| From the TG Primer: 2) Create an environment where there is mutual respect for your fellow gamers and where all members would be working together to advance the enjoyment of their hobby. E² = MV³

06-26-2007, 12:10 AM	#18 (permalink)
HgMaDHaTTeR Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 78	Re: Which Wireless Router Should I Purchase? Get the WRT-54GL and install DD-WRT (or Open-WRT if you have linux experience), it is very much better than the standard firmware. OpenWRT is more flexible, but more "fiddling under the hood" is required.

06-26-2007, 12:35 AM	#19 (permalink)
Zoopy Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,870	Re: Which Wireless Router Should I Purchase? I have a DGL-4300 and I must say it is the nicest router I have had. It has a nice interface with plenty of options. The one biggest issue I have with it is that any major change you do requires the device to reboot. I don't understand why, it is very annoying though. The QoS (or "gamefuel" as they call it) works preaty good if set up correctly. Although games like 2142 which have a crap load of ports is very time consuming. Wireless is great on it, reaches from the basement up to my top floor (roughly three floors). with good strength and no drops. My old DL-524 cut out all the time which is the reason I replaced it. If the DGL-4300 is on sale (less then $100CDN) then I would get it. $130CDN is quite pricey (I'm to lazy to look at USD).

06-26-2007, 11:39 PM	#20 (permalink)
Acreo Aeneas Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: DePaul University (Chicago) Age: 22 Posts: 4,683	Re: Which Wireless Router Should I Purchase? Well, I ended up getting the WRT54GL based on recommendations from the above posters and after some thorough research on the "popularity" of that particular model and alternate firmware. As for the Linksys "add-on" packet prioritizer, I have it. I bought it a while back, and I can tell you from experience, it does not work. I never noticed or saw any drop in lag or ping while playing any game online. Although it has helped make VoiP calls a little smoother when others on the network are downloading. It just doesn't work for games. And I have called Linksys to ask about what games it supports and they have told me that they don't know. __________________ Current Obsessions: Netbooks and other low-cost, small, and portable PCs. RSS Feeds: Bamboo

06-27-2007, 01:56 PM	#21 (permalink)
ScratchMonkey Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: San Pablo, California Posts: 4,565	Re: Which Wireless Router Should I Purchase? Games and VOIP both predominantly use UDP while web, mail and P2P use TCP. The packet prioritizer likely lets UDP packets "cut the line" and go out before any queued TCP packets. __________________

06-28-2007, 11:17 PM	#22 (permalink)
Acreo Aeneas Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: DePaul University (Chicago) Age: 22 Posts: 4,683	Re: Which Wireless Router Should I Purchase? I thought I'd just update everyone. I got the WRT54GL today setup and running just fine. I also got the computer in the back room hooked up wirelessly with a 92% signal strength. Thanks to everyone to gave me feedback, suggestions, tips, and support! __________________ Current Obsessions: Netbooks and other low-cost, small, and portable PCs. RSS Feeds: Bamboo

08-06-2007, 02:38 AM	#23 (permalink)
VegaBond Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: That smelly place called NJ Age: 29 Posts: 1,045	Re: Which Wireless Router Should I Purchase? I know old post but does anyone have or thinking of getting the Ruckus MediaFlex NG? http://www.ruckuswireless.com/products/mediaflex/ng/ Thinking of thowing out my old netgear __________________

08-08-2007, 12:49 PM	#24 (permalink)
Acreo Aeneas Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: DePaul University (Chicago) Age: 22 Posts: 4,683	Re: Which Wireless Router Should I Purchase? Just updating everyone again. I've rehooked that Linksys packet prioritizer back onto my network (between my modem and router) and it absolutely no effect on ping. I'm beginning to think it only works on console games and not on PC games. Hmm, looks interesting. What's the price tag on that thing? And have you found any reviews on the Ruckus? __________________ Current Obsessions: Netbooks and other low-cost, small, and portable PCs. RSS Feeds: Bamboo

08-08-2007, 06:28 PM	#26 (permalink)
ednos Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 3,857	Re: Which Wireless Router Should I Purchase? You know what's really fun? Putting DD-WRT on your WRT54GL! If I can do it, anyone can.

08-10-2007, 05:09 PM	#27 (permalink)
Acreo Aeneas Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: DePaul University (Chicago) Age: 22 Posts: 4,683	Re: Which Wireless Router Should I Purchase? @Cingular, my network is almost constantly saturated with bit-torrent downloads and youtube videos. That's when I usually test my gaming ping and that darn linksys game thingy doesn't help one bit. Complete waste of $40. @ednos, err yea...DD-WRT. I have not messed with it since I do not want to brick my router if end up rushing the install process. __________________ Current Obsessions: Netbooks and other low-cost, small, and portable PCs. RSS Feeds: Bamboo

08-10-2007, 06:50 PM	#28 (permalink)
ednos Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 3,857	Re: Which Wireless Router Should I Purchase? From what I hear, it's nearly impossible to brick your router, despite all the warnings. However, since I want to be in no way legally responsible for any of this, let me warn you that you might brick your router, even if all you did was look at it funny, or press Down+B in Super Smash Brothers.

08-10-2007, 10:17 PM	#29 (permalink)
mentholated Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 795	Re: Which Wireless Router Should I Purchase? Whatever you do, avoid linksys. Dirty bastards. edit: unless you use dd-wrt, but even then theres some problems like mass-connections causing the router to lock up

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