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  1. 07-11-2007, 11:12 AM #1
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    22" vs 24" monitor selection

    I have been using a 22" CRT by NEC, but it is starting to go on me and need to plan for a replacement. I have an ATI 1900XT and play primarily Armed Assault.

    I've decided that a widescreen is appropriate and that most if not all future games will support that mode.

    I understand the sweetspot is the 22" TN panel LCDs, but that they also don't provide the best image compared the the 24" LCDs on the market.

    In particular I'm looking at the 24" Dell for $600
    or the 22" Dell for $300

    Money isn't that much of a problem, but I hate to overspend on anything. Like my CRT above that lasted 7 years, I'm willing to go above the optimal price/performance curve for a monitor as it is a more long-term investment.

    My concerns are primarily that I don't plan to upgrade my video card until late next year. Do you guys think the 24's larger resolution will put too much of a strain on the 1900XT in that next year and do you think the 24 provides much more value over the 22 panels being produced?

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  2. 07-11-2007, 11:40 AM #2
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    Re: 22" vs 24" monitor selection

    I have the Dell 24" and I love it. But there's not too much I can run in native resolution (1920x1200) with my 7900gs.

    ArmA seems a bit heavy on the requirements, so I'm pretty sure that you won't be able to run native either. Even so, the monitor does scale down pretty well.



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    Re: 22" vs 24" monitor selection

    check out HardOCP, they report of lot of testing at 1920x1200 on their video card reviews.
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    Re: 22" vs 24" monitor selection

    Ok so this is something I wasn't sure about since I've heard that lcd monitors only run at native, but your the second person to tell me the dell 24 can scale. Personally, I would love to buy the bigger monitor for future proofing, if I new I could run a lower res if needed. (My eyesight isn't the best so bigger pixels are sometimes easier for me to see).
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    Re: 22" vs 24" monitor selection

    Maybe instead of one 24" monitor, you will consider a dual 22" widescreen setup. I believe that games are going to support the dual monitor configuration more and more as people realize the benefits of having a playing screen and a supplemental information screen (overhead tactical map or something).

    List of games supporting multi-monitor displays to some extent:
    Age Of Mythology
    Aliens vs. PredatorTM 2
    Aliens vs. PredatorTM 2: Primal Hunt
    Anarchy Online
    Apocalyptica
    Asheron’s Call® 2: Fallen Kings
    BANDITS - Phoenix Rising game demo
    BallisticsTM
    Battelfeield 1942*
    Blitzkrieg*
    Bloodrayne game demo
    Call Of Duty
    Chaser game demo
    Clive Barker's UndyingTM
    Colin McRae Rally 3
    Colin McRae Rally 4*
    Corvette
    Dead Man’s Hand
    Deadly Dozen: Pacific Theater
    Deus Ex
    Dogs Playing Poker
    Duke Nukem: Manhattan Project
    Enclave game demo
    EVE: The Second Genesis
    F1 Challenge 99-02*
    Firestarter*
    Freedom Fighters
    Freedom Force™ game demo
    Gangland
    Gladiators: Galactic Circus Games
    Gore: Ultimate Soldier
    Grand Prix 4
    Grand Prix Legends*
    Grand Theft Auto: Vice City*
    GTR*
    Heavy Metal: FAKK2
    Hitman: Contracts*
    Hover Ace*
    IGI 2: Covert Strike game demo
    IL-2 Sturmovik: Forgotten Battles
    Imperium Galactica III game demo
    Jedi Academy
    Knights Of The Temple
    KUMAWAR
    Lego Drome Racers
    Line of Sight: Vietnam game demo
    Live For Speed
    Lords of Everquest
    MafiaTM game demo
    Manhunt*
    Max Payne 2*
    Medal Of Honor
    Medal Of Honor: Breakthrough
    Medal Of Honor: Spearhead
    Microsoft® Combat Flight Simulator 3
    Microsoft® Flight Simulator 2002
    Microsoft® Flight Simulator 2004
    Midnight Club II
    Mobile Forces
    Motocross Madness 2
    Moto GPTM 2
    NASCAR® Racing 2002 Season
    NASCAR® Racing 2003 Season game demo
    Need For Speed: Underground*
    Neverwinter Nights
    Nitro Family
    Operation Flashpoint: Resistance
    Painkiller
    Planetside
    Postal 2
    Prince Of Persia: Sands Of Time*
    Pro Race Driver™ game demo
    Quake 3 ArenaTM
    Quake 3 Team ArenaTM
    Racer game demo
    Rainbow Six: Raven Shield*
    Rise of Nations™
    Return to Castle WolfensteinTM
    RUNE
    Saturday Night Speedway
    Serious Sam: Gold Edition
    Serious Sam: Second Encounter
    Shadowbane
    Soldner: Secret Wars
    Spider-Man 2
    Splinter Cell
    Star TrekTM Voyager: Elite Force
    Star TrekTM Voyager: Elite Force Expansion Pack
    Star Wars GalaxiesTM: An Empire Divided
    Star Wars® Jedi Knight 2 - Jedi OutcastTM
    Strike Fighters: Project 1
    Tactical Ops: Assault On Terror
    Terminator 3: War Of The Machines
    The Elder Scrolls® III: Morrowind
    The Elder Scrolls® III: Tribunal
    The Elder Scrolls® III: Bloodmoon
    The Wheel of TimeTM
    Tomb Raider™ The Angel of Darkness
    Tom Clancy's Ghost ReconTM
    Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon: Desert SiegeTM
    Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon: Island ThunderTM
    Trackmania
    Tribes 2
    Trainz® game demo
    Unreal® II: The Awakening
    Unreal® Tournament 2003 game demo
    Unreal Tournament 2004
    Unreal® Tournament
    Vietcong
    Wolfenstein™ Enemy Territory
    World Racing
    X2: The Threat
    X-Plane

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    Re: 22" vs 24" monitor selection

    Thanks Augustus, I run duals at work, but was under the impression that for gaming a single large monitor was preferred by most.
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    Re: 22" vs 24" monitor selection

    As things are now, absolutely. But the potential for gaming is really exciting! This will be my next major purchase, and I'm trying to talk myself out of a 3 monitor display.
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    Re: 22" vs 24" monitor selection

    Quote Originally Posted by Augustus Gloop View Post
    As things are now, absolutely. But the potential for gaming is really exciting! This will be my next major purchase, and I'm trying to talk myself out of a 3 monitor display.
    LOL... I feel your pain man...I already have an acer 24" and a Samsung 17" LCD on one system but I am running my 19" crt on a second system right next to the other 2 so I can feel like its a 3 monitor setup :P
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    Re: 22" vs 24" monitor selection

    22 obviously, $300 for 2 inches is stupid.... if your desperate for gaming glory then as gloop said. go for dual..

    later.. people please help with my internet sound problem on the same forum:P

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    Re: 22" vs 24" monitor selection

    Quote Originally Posted by Augustus Gloop View Post
    Maybe instead of one 24" monitor, you will consider a dual 22" widescreen setup. I believe that games are going to support the dual monitor configuration more and more as people realize the benefits of having a playing screen and a supplemental information screen (overhead tactical map or something).
    This will certainly not happen anytime soon, if ever. There aren't enough dual-monitor users to justify spending extra development costs associated with native dual-monitor games. Valve's recently released some statistics of a survey of almost 800,000 gamers and it showed that a mere 3.10% of those surveyed had a multi-monitor system.

    Although you can certainly run a few games on dual monitors today, the vast majority of these are simply one screen spanning 2 monitors rather than any sort of useful extra information on the second monitor. And who wants a huge vertical line in the middle of their screen?

    I would certainly love to see games like Company of Heroes which could use the second screen for the tactical overlay map, but it ain't gonna happen.
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    Re: 22" vs 24" monitor selection

    I have a 26" monitor and a 20.1" monitor and it sure is awesome. I like running common apps in the second monitor like Xfire, TS, and IM.

    The only game that I know of that actually supports dual monitors is Supreme Commander.
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    Re: 22" vs 24" monitor selection

    Hey Augustus, where did you get that list of games, I have several of them and have never heard about multi monitor support but would like to see what they offer.
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    Re: 22" vs 24" monitor selection

    If money isn't a problem for the 24"
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    Re: 22" vs 24" monitor selection

    I have the Dell 24". Great monitor. Can't give you any info on the GPU load for Arma as I run a 8800GTS.

    Also note that dual monitors is not a good setup for gaming. You need triplehead so that your crosshairs don't end up in the middle of the two screen setup.
    Matrox has an excellent and affordable triplehead solution(http://www.matrox.com/graphics/en/gxm/products/th2go/).

    I use it at work and can really recommend it (3x19 inch monitors = 3840x1024)
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    Re: 22" vs 24" monitor selection

    I don't think the 1900XT will be able to run at that high of a resolution for many games. However, you can scale a lower resolution to fit the monitor's native resolution. If the monitor can do it, your graphics drivers should be able to do it.
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